Bush Dedicates WWII Memorial -- He should have stayed away

Infohawk

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The CNN Story

Bush shouldn't be dragging this memorial through his mud. His war is a farce. WW2 wasn't. He hands are stained with blood and he should have done the right thing and let Bob Dole and others dedicate the memorial.

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In other news, this surely should have happened sooner. My grandfather is probably too old to visit DC now. So many of the veterans are dying and look how many needed medical attention at the ceremony. It's too bad.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I despise Bush.

However, he is the President and the obligation of that office holder is to participate in such events. There are plenty of reasons for me to flame the current administration, however I would be doing so now if Bush had blown it off. He needs to be there, just as it was appropriate for Bush Sr and Clinton to be there too. It goes with the job.
 

Cobalt

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
The CNN Story

Bush shouldn't be dragging this memorial through his mud. His war is a farce. WW2 wasn't. He hands are stained with blood and he should have done the right thing and let Bob Dole and others dedicate the memorial.

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In other news, this surely should have happened sooner. My grandfather is probably too old to visit DC now. So many of the veterans are dying and look how many needed medical attention at the ceremony. It's too bad.

Yea it should have happened sooner, it was disappointing my uncle couldn't get there. He's too old now...
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: etech
:cookie

I know it can be hard to formulate arugments, especially when you've been taught by neocon culture that buzzwords and quips are the way to go. If you are having trouble formulating arguments I suggest you read more. Preferably books that, unlike the internet, have been edited and such.
 

TheBDB

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"Here in the company of the generation that won the war, I proudly accept the World War II Memorial on behalf of the people of the United States of America," Bush said.

:confused:
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: TheBDB
"Here in the company of the generation that won the war, I proudly accept the World War II Memorial on behalf of the people of the United States of America," Bush said.

:confused:

He accepts the memorial? That's mighty nice of him.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: etech
:cookie

I know it can be hard to formulate arugments, especially when you've been taught by neocon culture that buzzwords and quips are the way to go. If you are having trouble formulating arguments I suggest you read more. Preferably books that, unlike the internet, have been edited and such.

Buzzwords and quips?

...His war is a farce.
...He hands are stained with blood

You are pretty good at it too!

:cookie
 

AcidicFury

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: etech
:cookie

I know it can be hard to formulate arugments, especially when you've been taught by neocon culture that buzzwords and quips are the way to go. If you are having trouble formulating arguments I suggest you read more. Preferably books that, unlike the internet, have been edited and such.

Buzzwords and quips?

...His war is a farce.
...He hands are stained with blood

You are pretty good at it too!

:cookie

Umm those aren't buzzwords or quips, they're true. If you're looking for a buzzword, I suggest "WMD" or "Abu Ghraib" (That ones good because Bush can't promounce it) and "terrorist."
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: etech
:cookie

I know it can be hard to formulate arugments, especially when you've been taught by neocon culture that buzzwords and quips are the way to go. If you are having trouble formulating arguments I suggest you read more. Preferably books that, unlike the internet, have been edited and such.

Buzzwords and quips?

...His war is a farce.
...He hands are stained with blood

You are pretty good at it too!

:cookie


Those weren't buzzwords or quips. They were reasons in favor of my argument that Bush should not have been there. Now here is a quip: "You are pretty good at it too!" Your post doesn't have an argument. Perhaps it could be that I'm hypocritical. But read my post and etech's post again and you will see, that like many neocon posts, his does not have an argument. Mine did. You can disagree with it. But I had a statement and reasons. Etech's was just a blurt of passive-agressive anger. Please try and post something substantive next time.
 

outriding

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What i dont understand is that the memorial was one the targets that terrorists were going to hit. So if it was "marked" as a hit why was bush there ? I guess when you lie so much it is hard to keep track of all the lies.
 

etech

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: etech
:cookie

I know it can be hard to formulate arugments, especially when you've been taught by neocon culture that buzzwords and quips are the way to go. If you are having trouble formulating arguments I suggest you read more. Preferably books that, unlike the internet, have been edited and such.

Buzzwords and quips?

...His war is a farce.
...He hands are stained with blood

You are pretty good at it too!

:cookie


Those weren't buzzwords or quips. They were reasons in favor of my argument that Bush should not have been there. Now here is a quip: "You are pretty good at it too!" Your post doesn't have an argument. Perhaps it could be that I'm hypocritical. But read my post and etech's post again and you will see, that like many neocon posts, his does not have an argument. Mine did. You can disagree with it. But I had a statement and reasons. Etech's was just a blurt of passive-agressive anger. Please try and post something substantive next time.

Infohawk, I'll agree with you, those wern't buzzwords or quips you spouted. Complete and utter BS covers it better.

Have fun getting all indignant and coming up with more BS.
 

Genesys

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: etech
:cookie

I know it can be hard to formulate arugments, especially when you've been taught by liberal culture that buzzwords and quips are the way to go. If you are having trouble formulating arguments I suggest you read more. Preferably books that, unlike the internet, have been edited and such.

fixed

and what makes you think that books are unedited? revisionist history is a liberal trademark ya know.
 

MonstaThrilla

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Originally posted by: Genesys
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: etech
:cookie

I know it can be hard to formulate arugments, especially when you've been taught by liberal culture that buzzwords and quips are the way to go. If you are having trouble formulating arguments I suggest you read more. Preferably books that, unlike the internet, have been edited and such.

fixed

and what makes you think that books are unedited? revisionist history is a liberal trademark ya know.

How about all of you douchebags stop putting ridiculous partisan labels to things that really have nothing to do with politics?

Buzzwords and quips have been used by all sorts pathetic partisan hacks since the inception of political parties. Ditto with trying to revise history. Ditto with not paying for dinner at restaurants. ;)
 

NightCrawler

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Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
I despise Bush.

However, he is the President and the obligation of that office holder is to participate in such events. There are plenty of reasons for me to flame the current administration, however I would be doing so now if Bush had blown it off. He needs to be there, just as it was appropriate for Bush Sr and Clinton to be there too. It goes with the job.

Wow common sense.
 

oreagan

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I honestly don't think it took too long to make the WWII memorial. Very few of our nation's memorials were created within 50 years of the event or person's end. Washington's was stopped for the Civil War. We need some time to understand exactly what the events and people mean to us as a nation, who they were, and their impact on the world. It's sad that the veterans couldn't all be there to see it, but throwing up memorials within 10 years of the event seems hasty. Imagine if we'd thrown up a WWI memorial within a few years of its end. "The War to End All Wars" memorial wouldn't be quite the same, would it?
 

Cobalt

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Originally posted by: Genesys
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: etech
:cookie

I know it can be hard to formulate arugments, especially when you've been taught by liberal culture that buzzwords and quips are the way to go. If you are having trouble formulating arguments I suggest you read more. Preferably books that, unlike the internet, have been edited and such.

fixed

and what makes you think that books are unedited? revisionist history is a liberal trademark ya know.

Of course, that's why we have great truthful authors like Sean Hannity? I'm sure the libs edited those books too... /end sarcasm
 

Crimson

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
The CNN Story

Bush shouldn't be dragging this memorial through his mud. His war is a farce. WW2 wasn't. He hands are stained with blood and he should have done the right thing and let Bob Dole and others dedicate the memorial.

********************

In other news, this surely should have happened sooner. My grandfather is probably too old to visit DC now. So many of the veterans are dying and look how many needed medical attention at the ceremony. It's too bad.

I'm really getting tired of you posting crap like this. If Bush had NOT been there, you would have ripped him for that. He is the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, as part of that role, he is the COMMANDER IN CHIEF.. That means he is the head of the entire military.. which means he SHOULD be there during the dedication of a memorial to those who died in World War II.

Your blatent partisanship and hatred toward our President makes me sick. I am sure the VAST majority of Veterans were HONORED to have the President speaking to them during the dedication of this memorial. And you would rather take away that experience from our Veterans in the name of partisanship and hatred than allow these men and women who risked their lives to hear the President address THEM and thank THEM for their service. You don't speak for everyone in this country, as much as you liberals would like to. While you may THINK the vast majority of the people in this country hate our President, fact is, they don't. And because you are so bitter and angry over this, you try to speak for people for whom you should not.

YOU did not fight in WWII, don't speak for the Veterans that did. If they did not want him there, they would have said so.
 

Gaard

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I am sure the VAST majority of Veterans were HONORED to have the President speaking to them during the dedication of this memorial.



YOU did not fight in WWII, don't speak for the Veterans that did.


;)
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: Infohawk
The CNN Story

Bush shouldn't be dragging this memorial through his mud. His war is a farce. WW2 wasn't. He hands are stained with blood and he should have done the right thing and let Bob Dole and others dedicate the memorial.

********************

In other news, this surely should have happened sooner. My grandfather is probably too old to visit DC now. So many of the veterans are dying and look how many needed medical attention at the ceremony. It's too bad.

I'm really getting tired of you posting crap like this. If Bush had NOT been there, you would have ripped him for that. He is the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, as part of that role, he is the COMMANDER IN CHIEF.. That means he is the head of the entire military.. which means he SHOULD be there during the dedication of a memorial to those who died in World War II.

Your blatent partisanship and hatred toward our President makes me sick. I am sure the VAST majority of Veterans were HONORED to have the President speaking to them during the dedication of this memorial. And you would rather take away that experience from our Veterans in the name of partisanship and hatred than allow these men and women who risked their lives to hear the President address THEM and thank THEM for their service. You don't speak for everyone in this country, as much as you liberals would like to. While you may THINK the vast majority of the people in this country hate our President, fact is, they don't. And because you are so bitter and angry over this, you try to speak for people for whom you should not.

YOU did not fight in WWII, don't speak for the Veterans that did. If they did not want him there, they would have said so.

Nothing in my post suggests I hate the president. Stop making assumptions.

"While you may THINK the vast majority of the people in this country hate our President, fact is, they don't."
Who said that? Nobody did. You are making strawmen arguemtns.

"You don't speak for everyone in this country, as much as you liberals would like to. "
I speak for myself. Your ranting won't stop me. Reason could, but not emotional outbursts.

"And because you are so bitter and angry over this, you try to speak for people for whom you should not."
I am speaking for myself, as a citizen. Bush shouldn't drag his mud into the WW2 memorial. It's meant to honor those who have served.

"If Bush had NOT been there, you would have ripped him for that."
Did you read my post? I think it would have been great if he stayed away. He should have let Bob Dole do it. Dole is a republican but he doesn't come with all the Bush baggage.
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
The CNN Story

Bush shouldn't be dragging this memorial through his mud. His war is a farce. WW2 wasn't. He hands are stained with blood and he should have done the right thing and let Bob Dole and others dedicate the memorial.

********************

In other news, this surely should have happened sooner. My grandfather is probably too old to visit DC now. So many of the veterans are dying and look how many needed medical attention at the ceremony. It's too bad.


I do not agree with what you posted.


Oh yea

:cookie