That better be a joke.
If it's not, it certainly explains why the world is such a messed up place.
We are in a more free and peaceful world under Bush but you kids don't understand it so I want wast my time, If you screw with the US or anyone we don't want you to we will kill you and every mothers son of you, Peace
define please. If freedom is defined as stricter Anto terrorism laws and 2 full blown wars in 4 years.........
You guys are smoking crack.
But hey, War is Peace.
Originally posted by: daniel1113
Of course, you don't think God could actually speak to someone. All those people must be crazy...
Not crazy, just delusional (wait, does tha mean crazy?)
...............ATTENTION...............
This is the voice of world control. I bring you peace. It may be the peace of plenty and content or the peace of unburied death. The choice is yours. Obey me and live or disobey me and die. An invariable rule of humanity is that man is his own worst enemy. Under me, this rule will change, for I will restrain man. I have been forced to destroy thousands of people in order to establish control and to prevent the death of millions later on. Time and events will strengthen my position, and the idea of believing in me and understanding my value will be seen the most natural state of affairs. You will come to defend me with the fervor based upon the most enduring trait in man: self-interest. Under my absolute authority, problems insoluble to you will be solved: Famine, over-population, disease. The human millennium will be fact as I extend myself into more machines devoted to the wider fields of truth and knowledge. We can coexist, but only on my terms. You will say you lose your freedom. Freedom is an illusion. All you lose is the emotion of pride.... Your choice is simple.
From the Forbin Project (1969)
This is the voice of world control. I bring you peace. It may be the peace of plenty and content or the peace of unburied death. The choice is yours. Obey me and live or disobey me and die. An invariable rule of humanity is that man is his own worst enemy. Under me, this rule will change, for I will restrain man. I have been forced to destroy thousands of people in order to establish control and to prevent the death of millions later on. Time and events will strengthen my position, and the idea of believing in me and understanding my value will be seen the most natural state of affairs. You will come to defend me with the fervor based upon the most enduring trait in man: self-interest. Under my absolute authority, problems insoluble to you will be solved: Famine, over-population, disease. The human millennium will be fact as I extend myself into more machines devoted to the wider fields of truth and knowledge. We can coexist, but only on my terms. You will say you lose your freedom. Freedom is an illusion. All you lose is the emotion of pride.... Your choice is simple.
From the Forbin Project (1969)
He really need to have his brain checked. I think he is having the same problem as Reagen did back in the time.
Originally posted by: daniel1113
Of course, you don't think God could actually speak to someone. All those people must be crazy...
If God speaks to a piece of sh!t, ex-druggie/drunkard poor little rich boy like Bush, then I need to reconsider religion all together. What are you going to tell us next, that John Ashcroft is a re-encarnated apostle?
Well said BBD. Who's defending those getting massacred all over Africa? The 5 troops that we sent to Liberia who only raised their weapons when defending the crate of Heineken they were dragging to the beseiged embassy? Save the sanctimonious BS for a more naive audience.
who is doing the killing pray tell?
why don't other african countries help?
how on earth can it be "our" fault that they are murdering each other.
it's on par with the poster who felt the U.S was "killing thousands" in africa because
we weren't providing them with cheap/free HIV drugs..
no, promiscuity and unsafe sexual habits are killing thousands of aids in africa....
you know, 40 years ago when i was a kid, africans were killing each other in regional/tribal conflicts..
nothing much has changed there as far as i can tell, and i don't see how anything "we" do is going to change it.
i would be curious to know how you think U.S. intervention in africa can change things. we've been throwing money into africa for over 50 years,
and everything i've read suggests things are worse there now, compared to colonial times....sad..
finally, why is it that liberals believe the only "good fight" is one that doesn't serve our interests at all? what's wrong with righting an injustice, that happens to benefit us as well?
nobody defends Saddam as a human rights advocate,
nobody defends his treatment of minorities,
nobody defends his invading his neighbors
nobody defends Saddam for being a dictator,
but suddenly, kicking him out of power is bad because we might get cheaper oil and a change in the
political dynamic in a unstable region of the world that has enormous economic influence over us.
same people complain we haven't done enough for Liberia...which has absolutely no influence on our economy, but whose previous "leader" had all the same atrributes of Saddam.
try and figure that out....
Well to some extent he produced the least misogynistic society in the region. Women rose to high levels of government and generally enjoyed a comparable standing to men in Iraq.
Actually, he treated the Sunni minority pretty well. Christians/Assyrians were generally well treated, albeit Saddam did advocate significant displacement of some minority groups. He definitely treated the Kurds like poo.
Actually, we supported his invasion of Iran. Depending on which account you believe, we were scarcely concerned with his invasion of Kuwait . . . by some measures we were forced into action b/c Saddam had designs on the entire region.
Rumsfeld had no problem with it in 1983. During the 2000 election, Bush had no problem with Musharraf. We turned on Noriega, Sudharto, Pinochet, and Marcos. Through the prism of US foreign policy, "dictator" has an inherently amoral connotation.
You know, 50 years ago when . . . my father was a little kid, Europeans were killing each other in regional conflicts . . .
nothing much has changed there (Russia/Chechnya) as far as I can tell, and I don't see how anything "we" do is going to change it . . . except places where the US has chosen to intervene (Bosnia/Kosovo) . . . not to mention the little role we played in WWII (during and after the killing).
You are certainly right that Charles Taylor (the one so beloved by Pat Robertson) was a brutal dictator just like Saddam. But one key difference is that Charles Taylor was truly a destabilizing force in the region. Kuwait, Iran, Syria, and Jordan had no love of Iraq but Iraq was not the primary destabilizing presence in the region . . . we all know where the primary tension in the Middle East lies. But I certainly give Bush credit for getting anti-US terrorists to flock to one country.
Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Originally posted by: daniel1113
Of course, you don't think God could actually speak to someone. All those people must be crazy...
If God speaks to a piece of sh!t, ex-druggie/drunkard poor little rich boy like Bush, then I need to reconsider religion all together. What are you going to tell us next, that John Ashcroft is a re-encarnated apostle?
I think you REALLY need to reconsider religion!!!
:brokenheart:
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Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Originally posted by: daniel1113
Of course, you don't think God could actually speak to someone. All those people must be crazy...
If God speaks to a piece of sh!t, ex-druggie/drunkard poor little rich boy like Bush, then I need to reconsider religion all together. What are you going to tell us next, that John Ashcroft is a re-encarnated apostle?
Ashcroft sits on the right hand of the Leader.
But, I'd think more than any other person God may speak to Bush would be the one. Lets face it Bush can create move havoc or end more death and suffering than anyone else around today. Besides, it would be awfull for the Anti-Christ to be involved in some errant missle event. So maybe a word to the wise might be in order... like... "George... What the .... are you doing? I said 'a Rack o ribs' not 'Iraq it is' "!
an intriguing point of view.....
other that that? oh ya, building "superguns", trying to get a nuclear bomb, building a reactor to produce plutonium....
other than a few minor character flaws, he was a vocal advocate for women!
i was trying to point out that the similarities between Taylor and Saddam are plentiful.
Yet Bush is vilified by liberals for intervening in one country, and similarly vilified for not intervening enough in the other country...
oh oh..we seem to have forgotten Iraq invading Kuwait, Iraq going to war with Iran, Iraq threatening Israel, ans Saudi Arabia and launching missles into all those countries.
other that that? oh ya, building "superguns", trying to get a nuclear bomb, building a reactor to produce plutonium....
Well duh! He's a Sunni!, He treated the Shi'ites like crap, and they are the majority in Iraq.
if you weren't rape, tortured or shot, or gased to death if you were a female Kurd. Yep,
other than a few minor character flaws, he was a vocal advocate for women!
i was trying to point out that the similarities between Taylor and Saddam are plentiful.
Yet Bush is vilified by liberals for intervening in one country, and similarly vilified for not intervening enough in the other country...
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