Bush Considers Microsoft Passport as National ID

ElFenix

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thats... pure evil...

not only would they be in control of most desktop computers...

its too horrible to imagine!
 

gopunk

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<< there can be only one. >>



haha :p


i don't think we have to worry, i really don't think this will even happen.

btw, remember all those debates about national id cards a few months ago? can somebody bring up the main arguments against it?
 

Ameesh

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<< there can be only one. >>



haha :p


i don't think we have to worry, i really don't think this will even happen.

btw, remember all those debates about national id cards a few months ago? can somebody bring up the main arguments against it?
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the main argument against it was "big brother", anonimity, and paranoia

the arrgument for it is good and efficient user authentication.
 

Ameesh

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the us government is already microsofts biggest customer. the NSA, Airforce, Marines, Army, Navy, Congress, IRS, all uses microsoft software in some shape or form.
 

gopunk

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the main argument against it was "big brother", anonimity, and paranoia
the arrgument for it is good and efficient user authentication.


i've been reading a book on computer security in general, and thought of this stuff when i was reading about public key encryption. has this been considered? i think it's feasible to make a card where users only release the information they choose to release. it would be a card with a chip in it, not like a drivers license, of course.
 

StageLeft

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<< the main argument against it was "big brother", anonimity, and paranoia
the arrgument for it is good and efficient user authentication.


i've been reading a book on computer security in general, and thought of this stuff when i was reading about public key encryption. has this been considered? i think it's feasible to make a card where users only release the information they choose to release. it would be a card with a chip in it, not like a drivers license, of course.
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That could work but there is a tough equation that has to be solved to begin work on it. You have red car and a white car. The red car has 15 times as much horsepower as the white car had when the red car was twice as old as the white car was 6 years ago divided by the current horsepower of the white car plus the red car's age time 4. What is the horsepower of each car?
 

Ameesh

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<< the main argument against it was "big brother", anonimity, and paranoia
the arrgument for it is good and efficient user authentication.


i've been reading a book on computer security in general, and thought of this stuff when i was reading about public key encryption. has this been considered? i think it's feasible to make a card where users only release the information they choose to release. it would be a card with a chip in it, not like a drivers license, of course.
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*slaps gopunk with this trout everyone talks about*

you mean smartcards?
 

NFS4

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<< the us government is already microsofts biggest customer. the NSA, Airforce, Marines, Army, Navy, Congress, IRS, all uses microsoft software in some shape or form. >>


LOL!!:p

I was watching Tom Brokaw's hour long coverage from the aircraft carrier Stennis last night on NBC. While he was in the F-14 for his ride-along during the reconnasance mission, the pilot beamed images taken from overhead of Afghanistan back to the carrier. Low and behold, there was a person at a display on the ship rcv'ing the images with a little download progess bar. The machine was running Win2k :p
 

Ameesh

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<< the main argument against it was "big brother", anonimity, and paranoia
the arrgument for it is good and efficient user authentication.


i've been reading a book on computer security in general, and thought of this stuff when i was reading about public key encryption. has this been considered? i think it's feasible to make a card where users only release the information they choose to release. it would be a card with a chip in it, not like a drivers license, of course.
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That could work but there is a tough equation that has to be solved to begin work on it. You have red car and a white car. The red car has 15 times as much horsepower as the white car had when the red car was twice as old as the white car was 6 years ago divided by the current horsepower of the white car plus the red car's age time 4. What is the horsepower of each car?
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wth hell are you talkin about ? :confused:
 

gopunk

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<< the main argument against it was "big brother", anonimity, and paranoia
the arrgument for it is good and efficient user authentication.


i've been reading a book on computer security in general, and thought of this stuff when i was reading about public key encryption. has this been considered? i think it's feasible to make a card where users only release the information they choose to release. it would be a card with a chip in it, not like a drivers license, of course.
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*slaps gopunk with this trout everyone talks about*

you mean smartcards?
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damn, beaten to the punch once more :( yea, smart cards i guess :p is there a reason those aren't feasible?
 

gopunk

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You have red car and a white car. The red car has 15 times as much horsepower as the white car had when the red car was twice as old as the white car was 6 years ago divided by the current horsepower of the white car plus the red car's age time 4. What is the horsepower of each car?

lol, i have a midterm tomorrow, i'm not going to attempt to solve this one :p
 

StageLeft

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<< You have red car and a white car. The red car has 15 times as much horsepower as the white car had when the red car was twice as old as the white car was 6 years ago divided by the current horsepower of the white car plus the red car's age time 4. What is the horsepower of each car?

lol, i have a midterm tomorrow, i'm not going to attempt to solve this one :p
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I made it up; I doubt it's solvable, but then again I was wrong last night too :(
 

Ameesh

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<<

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<< the main argument against it was "big brother", anonimity, and paranoia
the arrgument for it is good and efficient user authentication.


i've been reading a book on computer security in general, and thought of this stuff when i was reading about public key encryption. has this been considered? i think it's feasible to make a card where users only release the information they choose to release. it would be a card with a chip in it, not like a drivers license, of course.
>>




*slaps gopunk with this trout everyone talks about*

you mean smartcards?
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damn, beaten to the punch once more :( yea, smart cards i guess :p is there a reason those aren't feasible?
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its feasable, the problem is having some kind of common infrastructure that everyone can agree to, some people use certificates X509 some use other formats, others use yet a completely different data storage, until people choose to consolidate onto system we wont be able to get interop with other people easily for instance you could have a smart card for your bank that works at mcdonalds and the mall, you could have another card that works for you medical and auto insurance and yet another one that lets you get your email and VPN into your work. we need standards and infrastructure, that is all.
 

XZeroII

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I'm sure that the Gov't would come up with their own system. Something where they create the back door.