Bush chimp and Obama monkey, a tale of humor and racism

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DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
To you. I have a differing opinion. But not that I can post that...because blacks were called monkeys by stupid racist people.... :roll:

So is it acceptable in your opinion to use the word "nig***" while you're portraying black people as monkeys?

I don't protray "black people" as monkeys. I also do not use that term. Got any others angles to try to claim I'm racist? :roll:

I didn't mean you personally, I'm just trying to find that line in the sand where something becomes racist.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I have already stated that if some random guy decided to put obama on a monkey pic it could be considered racist depending on his intent. However, it seems too many people have become so overly sensitive that intent means nothing - only the "offended" person's feelings and interpretation. It's F'n ridiculous.

What's ridiculous is non-blacks telling blacks what they should and shouldn't be offended by.

(I say that assuming anyone who is black and isn't offended by this would say so)

Maybe we should just tell CAD that he shouldn't be offended by PC things.

CAD YOU BEING OFFENDED BY PC IS WHY THE PC THING WON'T GO AWAY.

Nope, I'm not offended. Saddened that society has gone so far down the PC path? Yep, but not offended.
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Vic

Would Obama be caricatured as a monkey if he wasn't half-black?

You're not exactly Mr. Current Affairs are you....

Bush has been pictured as a monkey for years.

Bush is white by the way.
And has the facial features of a chimp. Obama looks more like an Elephant with his large long ears, he does not resemble a chimp.

Really....

Bush.jpg

Obama.jpg
 

RightIsWrong

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

:roll: The only people who should be embarassed are you over-senstive PC types that only see "racism" in this. It has NOTHING to do with racism if you'd actually look at what the guy did. Sheesh. It was showing a double standard and you freaks fell for it as usual. It'd be hilarious if it weren't so sad...

It has nothing to do with oversensitivity or even PC. It has everything to do with respecting other human beings.

What the guy did was try to illicit a specific outcome (which he did) by putting the pictures as two separate shirt graphics and trying to pass that off as some psychological test of society's racial sensitivity.

Had he put them side by side to make it a case of the double standards in society re:race, he may have gotten a different response. However, he chose not to do that because he wanted to be banned so that he could pile six or seven soapboxes on top of each other and scream reverse racism and censorship.

I'll tell you what would truly be hilarious and a sure fire test of society's views on the topic, get one of the Obama as a monkey shirts (only Obama..no Bush just as the idiot, racist, feigned outraged "victim" in the OP designed) and walk around the section of your town that is the most predominantly black and then report back to us after you have made your case to the residents of the community that they need to just get over it. Maybe for really funny effect, you could post the video of your efforts on Youtube?
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

:roll: The only people who should be embarassed are you over-senstive PC types that only see "racism" in this. It has NOTHING to do with racism if you'd actually look at what the guy did. Sheesh. It was showing a double standard and you freaks fell for it as usual. It'd be hilarious if it weren't so sad...

It has nothing to do with oversensitivity or even PC. It has everything to do with respecting other human beings.

What the guy did was try to illicit a specific outcome (which he did) by putting the pictures as two separate shirt graphics and trying to pass that off as some psychological test of society's racial sensitivity.

Had he put them side by side to make it a case of the double standards in society re:race, he may have gotten a different response. However, he chose not to do that because he wanted to be banned so that he could pile six or seven soapboxes on top of each other and scream reverse racism and censorship.

I'll tell you what would truly be hilarious and a sure fire test of society's views on the topic, get one of the Obama as a monkey shirts (only Obama..no Bush just as the idiot, racist, feigned outraged "victim" in the OP designed) and walk around the section of your town that is the most predominantly black and then report back to us after you have made your case to the residents of the community that they need to just get over it. Maybe for really funny effect, you could post the video of your efforts on Youtube?

Nicely said. :thumbsup:
 

Specop 007

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Jan 31, 2005
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Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

It has nothing to do with oversensitivity or even PC. It has everything to do with respecting other human beings.

Is that the same respect that allows you to steal money from a successful person and give it to an unsuccessful person??

You have a very interesting definition of respect......
 

lupi

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
BTW, this strikes me as one of those idiotic college republican stunts wherein they unintentionally prove that they're racist morons perfectly willing to ignore 400 years of oppression against African Americans.

Caucasian American Fund

Racist bake sale

:roll:

The quicker people like you die off the sooner we can be over this feigned issue. I live near the ocean, I have yet to see any boat come in with blacks tied down topside ready to be sold nor have I seen a merchant stand at the marketplace ready to have fresh bodies up for auction.

You want slavery so you can talk about this shit to someone that cares, have fun in Africa, SA/Carribean, and SE Asia. The nice thing on 2 of those 3 is that it's blacks enslaving other blacks. Now show me some good ole outrage.

You mystify me. So you're saying because there's no slavery that there's no prejudice or discrimination against black people? Wow, that sounds remarkably naive, kinda like SpecOp's suggestion that if we just ignore racism that it'll just go away.

Whites were being taken as slave oh, around two thousand or so yers before the first black was brought to north america. I guess that means whitey is the one to really be mad.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
When the reaction is to scream "racism" when there is none - yes, I will tell anyone to STFU no matter what their skin color is. You see, the rules don't change just because of your skin color like you are suggesting. IMO to have different sets of rules based on it is racist. Thus the the whole double standard issue.
It's sad that you people can't see the double standard and cling to your victimism...

Cad you can scream 'double standard' all you want but it doesn't make it true. The truth is the guy wouldn't have displayed Obama as a monkey if he didn't know he would get a reaction. Why did he know he would get a reaction? Because he knows it's considered racist to correlate blacks and monkeys. If it was Hillary or Gore or whoever the right hates to poke fun at it wouldn't be. If it's Jessie or Wright or Al or any other public black figure it is. It's that simple and it's not a double standard.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

:roll: The only people who should be embarassed are you over-senstive PC types that only see "racism" in this. It has NOTHING to do with racism if you'd actually look at what the guy did. Sheesh. It was showing a double standard and you freaks fell for it as usual. It'd be hilarious if it weren't so sad...

It has nothing to do with oversensitivity or even PC. It has everything to do with respecting other human beings.

What the guy did was try to illicit a specific outcome (which he did) by putting the pictures as two separate shirt graphics and trying to pass that off as some psychological test of society's racial sensitivity.

Had he put them side by side to make it a case of the double standards in society re:race, he may have gotten a different response. However, he chose not to do that because he wanted to be banned so that he could pile six or seven soapboxes on top of each other and scream reverse racism and censorship.

I'll tell you what would truly be hilarious and a sure fire test of society's views on the topic, get one of the Obama as a monkey shirts (only Obama..no Bush just as the idiot, racist, feigned outraged "victim" in the OP designed) and walk around the section of your town that is the most predominantly black and then report back to us after you have made your case to the residents of the community that they need to just get over it. Maybe for really funny effect, you could post the video of your efforts on Youtube?

Had he put them side by side to make it a case of the double standards in society re:race,

THAT IS WHAT HE DID. He put both shirts up in his "store". Sheesh.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

:roll: The only people who should be embarassed are you over-senstive PC types that only see "racism" in this. It has NOTHING to do with racism if you'd actually look at what the guy did. Sheesh. It was showing a double standard and you freaks fell for it as usual. It'd be hilarious if it weren't so sad...

It has nothing to do with oversensitivity or even PC. It has everything to do with respecting other human beings.

What the guy did was try to illicit a specific outcome (which he did) by putting the pictures as two separate shirt graphics and trying to pass that off as some psychological test of society's racial sensitivity.

Had he put them side by side to make it a case of the double standards in society re:race, he may have gotten a different response. However, he chose not to do that because he wanted to be banned so that he could pile six or seven soapboxes on top of each other and scream reverse racism and censorship.

I'll tell you what would truly be hilarious and a sure fire test of society's views on the topic, get one of the Obama as a monkey shirts (only Obama..no Bush just as the idiot, racist, feigned outraged "victim" in the OP designed) and walk around the section of your town that is the most predominantly black and then report back to us after you have made your case to the residents of the community that they need to just get over it. Maybe for really funny effect, you could post the video of your efforts on Youtube?
Are you stereotyping people that live in predominantly black areas as violent? :confused:

 

Robor

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: lupi
Whites were being taken as slave oh, around two thousand or so yers before the first black was brought to north america. I guess that means whitey is the one to really be mad.

Come on, lupi. That comparison is weak and you know it. We're not talking about biblical times. We're talking about the way blacks were/are treated in this country, by (not all) whites, and in the last few decades.
 

RightIsWrong

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

It has nothing to do with oversensitivity or even PC. It has everything to do with respecting other human beings.

Is that the same respect that allows you to steal money from a successful person and give it to an unsuccessful person??

You have a very interesting definition of respect......

You mean like someone who successfully was born into a family that was wealthy vs. someone that unsuccessfully tried and was born into a ghetto situation?

That kind of success?
 

RightIsWrong

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Apr 29, 2005
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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

:roll: The only people who should be embarassed are you over-senstive PC types that only see "racism" in this. It has NOTHING to do with racism if you'd actually look at what the guy did. Sheesh. It was showing a double standard and you freaks fell for it as usual. It'd be hilarious if it weren't so sad...

It has nothing to do with oversensitivity or even PC. It has everything to do with respecting other human beings.

What the guy did was try to illicit a specific outcome (which he did) by putting the pictures as two separate shirt graphics and trying to pass that off as some psychological test of society's racial sensitivity.

Had he put them side by side to make it a case of the double standards in society re:race, he may have gotten a different response. However, he chose not to do that because he wanted to be banned so that he could pile six or seven soapboxes on top of each other and scream reverse racism and censorship.

I'll tell you what would truly be hilarious and a sure fire test of society's views on the topic, get one of the Obama as a monkey shirts (only Obama..no Bush just as the idiot, racist, feigned outraged "victim" in the OP designed) and walk around the section of your town that is the most predominantly black and then report back to us after you have made your case to the residents of the community that they need to just get over it. Maybe for really funny effect, you could post the video of your efforts on Youtube?

Had he put them side by side to make it a case of the double standards in society re:race,

THAT IS WHAT HE DID. He put both shirts up in his "store". Sheesh.

Did they take down one or both shirts? If both were taken down, where is your double standard? Where is his reason for outrage?

From his own posting of the response he got from the site:

We find your images in bad taste and at this time we cannot have them on our website.
Your ticket code is LTK41908976190X. Please use this code in any further communication.
Best Regards,
Margene H. Content Usage Associate (650) xxx-xxxx (O) (650) xxx-xxxx (F) www.cafepress.com

Next bullshit argument that you want destroyed?
 

Robor

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Okay I'm tired of this thread so here's my last post in it:

Example A: Portraying a black man as a monkey.

Example B: Kelly Tilghman (a golf analyst) saying 'lynch him in a back alley' in reference to what the other PGA players could do to stop Tiger Woods dominance on the tour.

Example A is racist. Period. Example B is not. Period. Both are stupid. Period. I'm done.
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

It has nothing to do with oversensitivity or even PC. It has everything to do with respecting other human beings.

Is that the same respect that allows you to steal money from a successful person and give it to an unsuccessful person??

You have a very interesting definition of respect......

You mean like someone who successfully was born into a family that was wealthy vs. someone that unsuccessfully tried and was born into a ghetto situation?

That kind of success?

That, or someone who went to college and has a job versus someone who sits around getting high. Take your pick. How do you lie to yourself in regards to respecting them all the while stealing from them.
 

RightIsWrong

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

It has nothing to do with oversensitivity or even PC. It has everything to do with respecting other human beings.

Is that the same respect that allows you to steal money from a successful person and give it to an unsuccessful person??

You have a very interesting definition of respect......

You mean like someone who successfully was born into a family that was wealthy vs. someone that unsuccessfully tried and was born into a ghetto situation?

That kind of success?

That, or someone who went to college and has a job versus someone who sits around getting high. Take your pick. How do you lie to yourself in regards to respecting them all the while stealing from them.

No wonder you started this thread and are in so much agreement with the idiot....you are just like him.
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

It has nothing to do with oversensitivity or even PC. It has everything to do with respecting other human beings.

Is that the same respect that allows you to steal money from a successful person and give it to an unsuccessful person??

You have a very interesting definition of respect......

You mean like someone who successfully was born into a family that was wealthy vs. someone that unsuccessfully tried and was born into a ghetto situation?

That kind of success?

That, or someone who went to college and has a job versus someone who sits around getting high. Take your pick. How do you lie to yourself in regards to respecting them all the while stealing from them.

So blacks don't go to college and have jobs and whites don't sit around getting high. RightIsWrong is right, you are an idiot and racist. I rest assured you will get your comeuppance once day. It's no wonder most blacks vote for Democrats. You republican fanbois are pure shit and they know it.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Bush looks like a chimp and Obama reminds me of Curious George.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. People need to lighten up.
 

Red Dawn

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What ever, let's hope the Republicans portray Obama as a Monkey, it'd be fun to see how that works for them.;)
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
What ever, let's hope the Republicans portray Obama as a Monkey, it'd be fun to see how that works for them.;)

You mean.....Have the Republicans actually DO something?

Huh....Theres a new thought......
 

sandorski

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Oct 10, 1999
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History is a bitch. You can't be forced to reluctantly accept a Race as equal and then just wash your hands of History and pretend it didn't happen. That's what many Whites seem to think.
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: umbrella39

So blacks don't go to college and have jobs and whites don't sit around getting high. RightIsWrong is right, you are an idiot and racist. I rest assured you will get your comeuppance once day. It's no wonder most blacks vote for Democrats. You republican fanbois are pure shit and they know it.

Please point out where I said blacks dont go to college or that whites dont sit around??

You're taking one of my statements and trying to shoehorn it into a different discussion.

To put it simply. You're lying.
 
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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: DealMonkey


Nicely said. :thumbsup:

Thanks! :) ....seeing as he finally agreed with me regarding "case of the double standards in society re:race" ;)
Double standards exist...but this isn't one of them. Comparing blacks to monkeys is highly offensive and, you'll find, this is for very valid reasons assuming you care to do a little reading. Dude...your position is indefensible and you need to rethink this.

 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

:roll: The only people who should be embarassed are you over-senstive PC types that only see "racism" in this. It has NOTHING to do with racism if you'd actually look at what the guy did. Sheesh. It was showing a double standard and you freaks fell for it as usual. It'd be hilarious if it weren't so sad...

It has nothing to do with oversensitivity or even PC. It has everything to do with respecting other human beings.

What the guy did was try to illicit a specific outcome (which he did) by putting the pictures as two separate shirt graphics and trying to pass that off as some psychological test of society's racial sensitivity.

Had he put them side by side to make it a case of the double standards in society re:race, he may have gotten a different response. However, he chose not to do that because he wanted to be banned so that he could pile six or seven soapboxes on top of each other and scream reverse racism and censorship.

I'll tell you what would truly be hilarious and a sure fire test of society's views on the topic, get one of the Obama as a monkey shirts (only Obama..no Bush just as the idiot, racist, feigned outraged "victim" in the OP designed) and walk around the section of your town that is the most predominantly black and then report back to us after you have made your case to the residents of the community that they need to just get over it. Maybe for really funny effect, you could post the video of your efforts on Youtube?

Had he put them side by side to make it a case of the double standards in society re:race,

THAT IS WHAT HE DID. He put both shirts up in his "store". Sheesh.

Did they take down one or both shirts? If both were taken down, where is your double standard? Where is his reason for outrage?

From his own posting of the response he got from the site:

We find your images in bad taste and at this time we cannot have them on our website.
Your ticket code is LTK41908976190X. Please use this code in any further communication.
Best Regards,
Margene H. Content Usage Associate (650) xxx-xxxx (O) (650) xxx-xxxx (F) www.cafepress.com

Next bullshit argument that you want destroyed?

Wrong wrong wrong. If only you would have clicked the link in the OP before posting your first reply in this thread...

One with President Bush as a monkey, and the other of Obama. Identical shirts as you can see by the illustration.

The Obama shirt was immediately banned by both CafePress and Zazzle.



If you follow my link, you will see that the Bush as a monkey shirt is up for sale with all of the other Bush as a monkey shirts. Cafe Press has no problem with it. They banned the Obama shirt and sent me two nasty letters.


next apologist....