Is it wise for them to stand back while Jesse Jackson and the Demos stir up this incredibly ridiculous sh!t storm? I'm not sure anymore, this is all too crazy.
Bush campaign; playing it smart or being too passive?
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If the democrats keep at it the way they have, they will eventually self-destruct because enough people will finally get disgusted with them.
Russ, NCNE
Russ, NCNE
Bush's legal people are stirring up New Mexico,California,Iowa,and Wisconson,looking to overturn the eelections there.You call that passive???
Give me a break. You don't buy that crap and no one else does. Smart would be for Bush to notify the floridians that he supports a re vote in Palm county and this whole thing would be finished and he could go to 1600 pennsylvania blvd. He claims he won Florida. PROVE IT!
Give me a break. You don't buy that crap and no one else does. Smart would be for Bush to notify the floridians that he supports a re vote in Palm county and this whole thing would be finished and he could go to 1600 pennsylvania blvd. He claims he won Florida. PROVE IT!
Standing back and observing, I have to say, the Republicans are probably making the right move. They are well aware of the fact that they will most likely come out winning in FL and the Democrats raising hell will just irratate the people even more. I think that they figure hey, if we end up on top, we look good for allowing it.....if we end up losing it.....we can always start questioning it then.....in the mean time, let the Dem's take the "bad guy" role. pretty smart really....makes them look good even though they'll be starting their own sh*t should the tables turn.
Oh sure tripleshot, and if that revote turns out not to favor Gore, I'm sure they'll find something else to whine about and ask for another recount or some other crap -- they won't be satisfied until they get the votes they want, by any means needed.
I still think with 2 counties left to report, Bush will get cheated out of florida with these last two counties. Somehow magically more Gore votes will be 'discovered' like they were in all the counties.......
I still think with 2 counties left to report, Bush will get cheated out of florida with these last two counties. Somehow magically more Gore votes will be 'discovered' like they were in all the counties.......
I'd like to see Gore give J.J. a call and advise him to return to base and allow those who are assigned the task of recounting the votes to do so without restriction. Jeb Bush took himself out of the game because he felt it would be a conflict of interest.
I also would have prefered to see the democrats wait until Nov. 17th when every absentee ballot is counted before declaring they'll take their right to the throne to court. Disenfranchised voters? Come on their right to vote was in no way deprived...confused or otherwise they voted folks.
No, what I see are a bunch of democrats making it very difficult for the FL state secretary and her team to do their jobs properly and efficiently. The Ds seem deadset on demonizing the Rs because they things aren't going their way.
Sheesh Gore is turning me into a republican. :|
I also would have prefered to see the democrats wait until Nov. 17th when every absentee ballot is counted before declaring they'll take their right to the throne to court. Disenfranchised voters? Come on their right to vote was in no way deprived...confused or otherwise they voted folks.
No, what I see are a bunch of democrats making it very difficult for the FL state secretary and her team to do their jobs properly and efficiently. The Ds seem deadset on demonizing the Rs because they things aren't going their way.
Sheesh Gore is turning me into a republican. :|
<< He claims he won Florida. PROVE IT! >>
Why should he......the Democrats are taking care of that for him!
The Bushies have sat back and let the Dems lie all they wanted while trying to appear "above it all". Well, look what is got them: A tie race.
The last minute DUI info happened because they didn't put the info out a year ago when it wouldn't have been able to be a "November surprise". Now, they're letting Jesse and Friends start chanting and riling up the people which MAY cause people to say "Jeez, don't these people have ANY shame?" or, more likely, will make people say, "Why not have a one county runoff?" Pitiful and unconstitutional.
The entire country votes, but the only race that matters is the one place where the people are too dim to follow simple instructions. That's not democracy. That's mob rule by the Dumbest Common Denominator.
The last minute DUI info happened because they didn't put the info out a year ago when it wouldn't have been able to be a "November surprise". Now, they're letting Jesse and Friends start chanting and riling up the people which MAY cause people to say "Jeez, don't these people have ANY shame?" or, more likely, will make people say, "Why not have a one county runoff?" Pitiful and unconstitutional.
The entire country votes, but the only race that matters is the one place where the people are too dim to follow simple instructions. That's not democracy. That's mob rule by the Dumbest Common Denominator.
"Bush's legal people are stirring up New Mexico,California,Iowa,and Wisconson,looking to overturn the eelections there.You call that passive???
Give me a break. You don't buy that crap and no one else does. Smart would be for Bush to notify the floridians that he supports a re vote in Palm county and this whole thing would be finished and he could go to 1600 pennsylvania blvd. He claims he won Florida. PROVE IT!"
Tripleshot,
I hope Bush will stirr up the states you mentioned.
Bush won. He doesn't need to prove anything. Re vote? No. The election took place on Tuesday. It's over now. Why don't you just face reality.
Your candidate lost. Let President Bush and America move on.
Zenmervolt
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The gentlemanly thing to do here is for both sides to accept the results of Florida when all the absentee ballots are counted, whatever it may be. I refuse to accept any president who takes office because of a court case. While I enthusiastically voted for Bush, I would be more than willing to have Gore as president if he won the electoral college. The winner is the winner. The loser does not get to invent stories of disenfranchisement so he can take office by a court order that undermines the US Constitution. How would someone who got the office that way be able to swear to uphold that sacred document when he trampled on it on his way in?
Aaron Meyer
I wonder if moving to Britain is an option....
Aaron Meyer
I wonder if moving to Britain is an option....
Currently, I'm not too impressed with the Democratic party. They should wait for the final results from Florida, & then live with it. If they won, great. That's what a re-count is for: Prove the winner. If they lost, great. That's what a recount is for: Prove the winner.
If Gore thinks he's going to get respect by whining & filing his way into the Oval Office, he's wrong. He'll get nothing but my spite.
Initially, when he called Bush & congratulated him, & was impressed. Maybe he's all right after all, I though. It must have taken some serious swallowing of pride to make that call. But I don't respect him anymore.
Viper GTS
If Gore thinks he's going to get respect by whining & filing his way into the Oval Office, he's wrong. He'll get nothing but my spite.
Initially, when he called Bush & congratulated him, & was impressed. Maybe he's all right after all, I though. It must have taken some serious swallowing of pride to make that call. But I don't respect him anymore.
Viper GTS
Bush is doing the right thing by keeping a low profile on this. People are getting disgusted with the Gore campaign. People who generally hate Democrats and Repulicans equally, such as independents, Libertarians, and Reformers are even getting annoyed with what Gore's people are doing.
tagej
Magically discovered Gore votes? How about mysteriously missing Gore votes found! You do not have any faith in your candidate legitamtely winning Florida,so you prefer this go to the courts and prolong this debate. I want it to die and get on withlife. This is really very humiliating for America and it is throwing the economy into a rut that takes time and energy to correct.
I don't care if Gore is President or Bush.Neither will have a mandate to lead for at least 2 more years, until the masses get to vote again for congreesional seats.
Thats not entirely true. I will laugh my ass off if Gore pulls this out. I'm not sure he has the hutspa to do it,but I would truly find it amusing.
Magically discovered Gore votes? How about mysteriously missing Gore votes found! You do not have any faith in your candidate legitamtely winning Florida,so you prefer this go to the courts and prolong this debate. I want it to die and get on withlife. This is really very humiliating for America and it is throwing the economy into a rut that takes time and energy to correct.
I don't care if Gore is President or Bush.Neither will have a mandate to lead for at least 2 more years, until the masses get to vote again for congreesional seats.
Thats not entirely true. I will laugh my ass off if Gore pulls this out. I'm not sure he has the hutspa to do it,but I would truly find it amusing.
Getting the correct count in florida isn't a bad thing. Conceeding with an inaccurate vote count out of convenience is no way to win legitimatly. Either way, accurate vote count = good. It makes no sense any other way. It must be resolved so the results are not questionable or else bush just wins at any cost.
I wonder if Clinton should give Gore a call, "Hey, sonny boy ya'll are wreckin' what's left of my shady legacy! Knock that off right now, Mister Vice President!".
My TV just said the Florida electorate votes in mid-December. The Ds could and likely will drag it out until then, if simply to keep the media ensorcelled. But I believe there will be a long-term price to pay for that action. Time will tell.
My TV just said the Florida electorate votes in mid-December. The Ds could and likely will drag it out until then, if simply to keep the media ensorcelled. But I believe there will be a long-term price to pay for that action. Time will tell.
Zucchini:
Yes, I agree that
accurate vote count = good for everybody..
but accurate vote count just means a recount...
NOT a revote...
Yes, I agree that
accurate vote count = good for everybody..
but accurate vote count just means a recount...
NOT a revote...
No an accurate recount only works with a revote for all those that had the questionable ballots and voted for buchanan or two canididates. Only then can you claim to have an accurate vote.
Long term price to pay? Remember bush is the one without the popular vote.
Long term price to pay? Remember bush is the one without the popular vote.
What is to stop anyone who voted from changing their votes in a revote? How can that be an accurate vote count then?
Let's just elect a new President every couple of weeks, how about that?
Yeah, that'd be fair. Then if your vote didn't count in one election because you were confused or late or drunk, you could know that in two weeks you'd have another chance.
I mean who could get anything done in that space of time? It'd be perfect. Nothing would get
accomplished in Washington and the world would be a better place for it.
Yeah, that'd be fair. Then if your vote didn't count in one election because you were confused or late or drunk, you could know that in two weeks you'd have another chance.
I mean who could get anything done in that space of time? It'd be perfect. Nothing would get
accomplished in Washington and the world would be a better place for it.
In hindsight it has become clear to me I should have voted for that dictator who was running here at AT.
Zucchini,
The popular vote disagreed with the electorate before and the system remained essentially unchanged. I highly doubt we'll dump it now, though I feel there should be discussion and perhaps we'll see some legislation attempted.
Oh and the only way you can truly have an accurate vote at this point is to let everybody re-vote and that is simply unreasonable.
Zucchini,
The popular vote disagreed with the electorate before and the system remained essentially unchanged. I highly doubt we'll dump it now, though I feel there should be discussion and perhaps we'll see some legislation attempted.
Oh and the only way you can truly have an accurate vote at this point is to let everybody re-vote and that is simply unreasonable.
Yes ofcourse, just look into the past. Nothing good came of it, and a side effect of it was the setback of civil rights for decades. Not winning the popular vote does eat into the legitimacy of the administration.
And as i said b4, the people with questionable votes should get revotes. Some of the old people were complaining right after they left the voting centers..
And as i said b4, the people with questionable votes should get revotes. Some of the old people were complaining right after they left the voting centers..
Jellybaby:
Even with a re-vote, it would not be a truly accurate vote... with the benefit of hindsight, people would change their votes to ensure that the candidates they wanted won...
Zucchini:
I'm not sure that Al Gore has the popular vote either, 50 % of the voters didn't vote for him.
Even with a re-vote, it would not be a truly accurate vote... with the benefit of hindsight, people would change their votes to ensure that the candidates they wanted won...
Zucchini:
I'm not sure that Al Gore has the popular vote either, 50 % of the voters didn't vote for him.
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