Bush Campaign Busted Passing Out 'Swift Boat Veterans for Bush' Flyer

[Todd33]

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?ReleaseID=34996

Despite constant denials, the Bush-Cheney campaign today was busted coordinating with the "Swift Boat Veterans for Bush" in their smear campaign against John Kerry. The following press release was issued this afternoon by the Florida Democratic Party.

"Bush Campaign Caught Promoting "Swift Boat Vets for Truth"

While National Campaign Denies Coordination, Campaign in Florida Promotes Rally

Tallahassee -- On the same day that the Bush-Cheney campaign repeatedly denied coordinating attacks with the anti-Kerry group "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth," the Bush-Cheney campaign in Florida was caught promoting a rally in Gainesville for the group.

A flyer being distributed at the Alachua County Republican party headquarters, which doubles as the Bush-Cheney campaign headquarters for the county, promotes a weekend rally sponsored by "Swift Boat Vets for Truth, Veterans for Bush, Alachua Bush/Cheney Committee," and others.

"George Bush has disgraced himself by allowing his campaign to promote the ugly smears being spread by the group Swift Boat Veterans for Truth," said Scott Maddox, Chairman of the Florida Democratic Party. "The Bush campaign has repeatedly denied any involvement with this group, but now we know the real truth. While George Bush falsely declares his respect for John Kerry's war record, his henchmen on the ground in Florida are attacking it under the radar."

George Bush has repeatedly refused to condemn ads being run the Swift Boat group, even as Senator John McCain has called on him to do so. Stories in yesterday's Washington Post and New York Times exposed the group's ads as false and undercut the claims made by many of the members of the group. The New York Times also revealed extensive ties between donors to the Swift Boat group and Karl Rove, Bush's top political strategist.

Even as they refused to condemn the ads, the Bush campaign has denied any involvement with the group. "We've made it very clear that we ... will never raise questions about his service," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said yesterday. "We haven't, and we won't."

Maddox said that the Bush campaign's activities in Florida undercut its claim.

"George Bush doesn't have a plan to rebuild America's economy or restore its respected position in the world, so instead of discussing the issues, he launches vicious attacks against John Kerry's heroic war record," Maddox said. "The attacks themselves are false, and now we know that the Bush campaign's denial of involvement in them is too."

Maddox called on the Bush campaign to end its involvement with the group and renounce the group's ads.

I'm glad there are no campaign or monitary ties from Bush-Cheney to the swift boat liars. Whew.

 

[KarenMarie]

Hahahahaha!!

If there is not a reasonable, believable explaination for this... Bush is fvcked!!

 

[Crimson]

How does this prove any connection? If the Republican Party would encourage people to go to John Kerry's webpage for more information about his campaign, would that mean that Kerry and Bush are coordinating efforts? Give me a break. You guys are getting pretty desperate here.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Crimson
How does this prove any connection? If the Republican Party would encourage people to go to John Kerry's webpage for more information about his campaign, would that mean that Kerry and Bush are coordinating efforts? Give me a break. You guys are getting pretty desperate here.

You mean it's like the Swiftvets' claim that they "served with Kerry" only in the sense that they manned other boats in Vietnam. It's a bit like saying you spent the night with Bill Clinton because you were on Martha's Vineyard, too. Tip of the hat to Slate.com for that analogy.

 

[Painman]

Originally posted by: Crimson
How does this prove any connection? If the Republican Party would encourage people to go to John Kerry's webpage for more information about his campaign, would that mean that Kerry and Bush are coordinating efforts? Give me a break. You guys are getting pretty desperate here.

Uhh, the Kerry campaign ain't a 527, but thanks for giving us yet another excuse to laugh at you.

I was going to post this news bit earlier, but decided against it because I hardly believe Kerry would so publicly file his complaint to the FEC solely over something like this, which can probably be chalked up to incompetence on the part of a minor, local operative. Kerry's a former prosecutor, I don't reckon he'd make a move like this unless he had some real evidence to back it up.

Kerry's had this document in his posession since 8/18, the day before he made his statement before the firefighter's union... have a look at the fax machine timestamp along the top of the scan of the flier. He may just be throwing this proverbial jack of clubs down on the table for now to brew media attention over the weekend, and is holding back the ace of spades for the Monday morning editions. We'll have to wait and see.

 

[Runner20]

The media is out to totally prove the anti Kerry Swift Boat guys wrong. Dont forget, the anti Kerry war veterans have a organization of about 250 members and Kerry has about 15 or so war veterans that support him.

 

[Riprorin]

Has Kerry condemned Michael Moore's movie? Has he condemned the Hollywood actors who ridiculed Bush (he called them the "heart and soul" of America)? Has he condemned any of the 50 or so Bush-bashing books?

Bush has said that he honors Kerry's service. The Swiftvets are a 527, he can't tell them what to do.

If Kerry is being honest about his service in Vietnam, why is he behaving like he has something to hide?

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Runner20
The media is out to totally prove the anti Kerry Swift Boat guys wrong. Dont forget, the anti Kerry war veterans have a organization of about 250 members and Kerry has about 15 or so war veterans that support him.

And the conservative media is totally out to prove them right. Don't get me wrong, the Swift Boat Vets can talk about how they're upset by Kerry's post-war actions all they want, they just need to stop lying and they need to stop using such deceptive tactics (Senate testimony out of context; claiming they "served with Kerry" when they were merely in the same region of Vietnam at the time; etc.).

Christ, it's almost like the Swift Vets have Michael Moore handling their ads for them.

 

[Todd33]

250 guys don'y like Kerry? I wonder how many we could dig up via Moveon.org to hate Bush?

 

[351Cleveland]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Hahahahaha!!

If there is not a reasonable, believable explaination for this... Bush is fvcked!!

Actually, if there is any kind of violation that will be filed through the FEC, it is likely that there would be nothing done until after the election.

 

[KarenMarie]

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Hahahahaha!!

If there is not a reasonable, believable explaination for this... Bush is fvcked!!

Actually, if there is any kind of violation that will be filed through the FEC, it is likely that there would be nothing done until after the election.

I meant... in the arena of public opinion. If this is true, Kerry could not have gotten luckier unless Bush got caught handing them out himself.

This entire swiftboat issue is a gift for Kerry and he has not had to face the SBVFT once!

 

[Runner20]

Originally posted by: Todd33
250 guys don'y like Kerry? I wonder how many we could dig up via Moveon.org to hate Bush?

NO.

Not just any guys, reputable war hero's.

 

[Painman]

Originally posted by: Runner20
The media is out to totally prove the anti Kerry Swift Boat guys wrong. Dont forget, the anti Kerry war veterans have a organization of about 250 members and Kerry has about 15 or so war veterans that support him.

...And this has WHAT to do with the topic at hand, exactly, little crablet? How many of those ~250 served directly under Kerry's command? Oh, none? Gosh. Did they all serve within the same flotilla, at the same time that Kerry did? No? Gosh. How much in Republican donor cash and prizes is being handed out to anyone and everyone eligible to sign up for this three hour tour? Hundreds of thousands? Gosh!

Maybe the media is picking apart these Flop Sweat Losers for Karl Rove because... that's their proper job!!

Ever thought of that, genius?

:roll:

 

[Runner20]

Originally posted by: Painman

Originally posted by: Runner20
The media is out to totally prove the anti Kerry Swift Boat guys wrong. Dont forget, the anti Kerry war veterans have a organization of about 250 members and Kerry has about 15 or so war veterans that support him.

...And this has WHAT to do with the topic at hand, exactly, little crablet? How many of those ~250 served directly under Kerry's command? Oh, none? Gosh. Did they all serve within the same flotilla, at the same time that Kerry did? No? Gosh. How much in Republican donor cash and prizes is being handed out to anyone and everyone eligible to sign up for this three hour tour? Hundreds of thousands? Gosh!

Maybe the media is picking apart these Flop Sweat Losers for Karl Rove because... that's their proper job!!

Ever thought of that, genius?

:roll:

IDIOT.

These veteran's are non partisan. Even if Kerry was a republican they still would do the same thing. Many of them are democrats. They just feel he is unfit to lead this nation.

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: Painman

Originally posted by: Runner20
The media is out to totally prove the anti Kerry Swift Boat guys wrong. Dont forget, the anti Kerry war veterans have a organization of about 250 members and Kerry has about 15 or so war veterans that support him.

...And this has WHAT to do with the topic at hand, exactly, little crablet? How many of those ~250 served directly under Kerry's command? Oh, none? Gosh. Did they all serve within the same flotilla, at the same time that Kerry did? No? Gosh. How much in Republican donor cash and prizes is being handed out to anyone and everyone eligible to sign up for this three hour tour? Hundreds of thousands? Gosh!

Maybe the media is picking apart these Flop Sweat Losers for Karl Rove because... that's their proper job!!

Ever thought of that, genius?

:roll:

Oh, you are telling us that that these 200+ decorated Vietnam vets were bought off?

Do you have any evidence to support these slanderous claims?

 

[Runner20]

Originally posted by: Painman

Originally posted by: Runner20
The media is out to totally prove the anti Kerry Swift Boat guys wrong. Dont forget, the anti Kerry war veterans have a organization of about 250 members and Kerry has about 15 or so war veterans that support him.

...And this has WHAT to do with the topic at hand, exactly, little crablet? How many of those ~250 served directly under Kerry's command? Oh, none? Gosh. Did they all serve within the same flotilla, at the same time that Kerry did? No? Gosh. How much in Republican donor cash and prizes is being handed out to anyone and everyone eligible to sign up for this three hour tour? Hundreds of thousands? Gosh!

Maybe the media is picking apart these Flop Sweat Losers for Karl Rove because... that's their proper job!!

Ever thought of that, genius?

:roll:

Are you calling these heroes, flop sweat losers??
what a great man u are

 

[Todd33]

Not just any guys, reputable war hero's.

LOLOLOLOLOL.

Vets? Yes. Reputable? No! Most never served anywhere near Kerry, they are bitter of the Senate testimony. The rest are flip-flopping their stores daily and contradict official Nay records and first hand experience of people who were on the boat. Nice try.

Vet != honest. Liars come in all packages.

 

[Runner20]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Not just any guys, reputable war hero's.

LOLOLOLOLOL.

Vets? Yes. Reputable? No! Most never served anywhere near Kerry, they are bitter of the Senate testimony. The rest are flip-flopping their stores daily and contradict official Nay records and first hand experience of people who were on the boat. Nice try.

Vet != honest. Liars come in all packages.

Democrats seem very unstable.

Looks like dems are melting under the pressure.

 

[Todd33]

Wow, what a witting reply. I guess debate with substance isn't your style.

 

[Runner20]

Originally posted by: Todd33
Wow, what a witting reply. I guess debate with substance isn't your style.

Bush has nothing to do with these ads. In fact he doesnt want these to appear on tv.

These war heroes just want to stop Kerry from becoming president.

Just a bunch of American's expressing their viewpoint.

 

[Todd33]

I'm sorry, did Bush refute the ads while I was not watching TV? I could have swore McCain asked him to and he didn't. Spin little man spin.

 

[Painman]

Oh, the shrillness! I see I've got the wingnuts' hearts racing and forehead veins bulging. You guys are so playable, it's pathetic.

Of course I can't prove these guys were bought off. OTOH, you can't prove they weren't. But let me ask you this, I'm sure it's been asked before. Where were these ~250 vets back in 1971, when the wounds were still still fresh, and Kerry's testimony was supposedly like so much salt rubbed in, as they claim now? Sure, some were still in country, and couldn't make comment, but not all, by a long shot.

35 years is a long, unhealthy amount of time to be nursing wounds... esp. considering the lack of noise these fellas made about them at the time. Seems fishy to me, that's all I'm sayin'. Though I'm sure you two will continue to bloviate ad nauseum.

*shrugs*

 

[Runner20]

Did Kerry refute the moveon ad comparing Bush to Hitler?

 

[Painman]

Originally posted by: Runner20
Did Kerry refute the moveon ad comparing Bush to Hitler?

Why should Kerry refute an ad that 1) MoveOn didn't produce, it was part of a subscriber-produced ad contest called "Bush in 30 Seconds", 2) Was never put on the air, and 3) MoveOn quickly pulled from their website for distasteful content due to repudiation by their own membership?

Aside from being a flaming red herring, this is a totally dead horse around these parts.

 

[Painman]

Originally posted by: Runner20
Are you calling these heroes, flop sweat losers??
what a great man u are

I'll call 'em as I see 'em. Combat service doesn't make a man sacrosanct. I respect the fact that they served, but what they do or say in regards to it is fair game, in exactly the same way that the actions and statements of John Kerry while in theater and afterwards are clearly considered fair game to the likes of you.