Bush brings democracy to the ME

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cwjerome

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Oil is money fool. No oil, no US economy, no money. We are shooting a bunch of goat herders in the desert who universally despise us so we can take their oil. We pay one dictator after another billions so we can keep taking their oil and keep making money. Make no mistake about it, if we had to invade each and every one of those countries, kill all the Arabs, and pump the damn shit out of the ground ourselves we would.

Sloppy definitions create sloppy reasoning, and that's you. But judging from your posts you've probably never had a real independent thought in your life, so what do you care?

If only the world were as simple as you make it out to be.
 

wuliheron

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Sloppy definitions create sloppy reasoning, and that's you. But judging from your posts you've probably never had a real independent thought in your life, so what do you care?

If only the world were as simple as you make it out to be.


Is your prosaic kicking in or is that really the best comeback you can manage?
 

CallMeJoe

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Is your prosaic kicking in or is that really the best comeback you can manage?

prosaic [prəʊˈzeɪɪk]
adj
1. lacking imagination
2. (Literary & Literary Critical Terms) having the characteristics of prose
[from Late Latin prōsaicus, from Latin prōsa prose]

I think you meant Prozac, but prosaic kind of fits...
 

IronWing

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Democracy in Iraq? Too early to say. Certainly too early to say for any of the countries with recent revolutions.

Bush made the Middle East safer for Saudi Arabia. Obama has continued the policy of fighting the Sauds' battles for them.
 

wuliheron

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prosaic [prəʊˈzeɪɪk]
adj
1. lacking imagination
2. (Literary & Literary Critical Terms) having the characteristics of prose
[from Late Latin prōsaicus, from Latin prōsa prose]

I think you meant Prozac, but prosaic kind of fits...


Must have been a Freudian slip.
 
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I'm not pretending shit. I never said for one minute that the US was the only greedy pig feeding at the troff. All of Europe isn't there helping us to kick one third world dictator's ass out of the kindness of their hearts. We're all there to make money and anyone who says otherwise is living in a fantasy world. If we wanted to do things differently we'd start our own Manhattan Project for alternatives to oil.
I see. In your delusional mind, trying to maintain the economic status quo and not having the world's economies crash and burn = making money and being greedy.

:rolleyes:
 

Red Dawn

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Well they have to hate on Bush, because Obama's presidency makes Bush look that much better.

No it doesn't. While Obama hasn't been that successful he's still done a hell of a lot better job than Bush which I admit isn't saying much. But when you consider the alternatives back in 2008 and in the upcoming Presidential elections we could have done/do a lot worse.
 

wuliheron

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I see. In your delusional mind, trying to maintain the economic status quo and not having the world's economies crash and burn = making money and being greedy.

:rolleyes:


This isn't just about maintaining the economic status quo, its about the people already on top making as much profit as possible. Its about people driving Humvees and living in the suburbs. Its about oil companies making billions by bribing locals and lobbying congress to not fund alternatives. Its about 5% of the world's population consuming 25% of its energy.

Go ahead, drive the two blocks to your gas station, stuff your fat face with food grown by exploited peasants, buy a t-shirt made by other peasants working in horrible conditions, and then tell me it isn't about greed. Tell us all how its about saving the world.
 
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This isn't just about maintaining the economic status quo, its about the people already on top making as much profit as possible. Its about people driving Humvees and living in the suburbs. Its about oil companies making billions by bribing locals and lobbying congress to not fund alternatives. Its about 5% of the world's population consuming 25% of its energy.

Go ahead, drive the two blocks to your gas station, stuff your fat face with food grown by exploited peasants, buy a t-shirt made by other peasants working in horrible conditions, and then tell me it isn't about greed. Tell us all how its about saving the world.
It's also about people scratching out a decent living and surviving as best they can. If you think only the rich benefit from maintaining economic stability you are an idiot.

Besides that, I don't see you tossing away your computer, cell phone, or other little luxuries that you surely enjoy to go live like some hermit in protest against 'da man.' What are you? One of those boys that acts all angsty and angry while their parents are paying their way through college?
 

nobodyknows

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Bush brings democracy to the ME

Was that a plank of the GOP?

I guess as far as I'm concerned bringing "democracy" to the ME wasn't worth the thousands of Americans lives lost to say nothiong of the Trillion dollar (and growing) price tag, but if it makes you feel better about supporting such a loser then go for it!!
 

wuliheron

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It's also about people scratching out a decent living and surviving as best they can. If you think only the rich benefit from maintaining economic stability you are an idiot.

Besides that, I don't see you tossing away your computer, cell phone, or other little luxuries that you surely enjoy to go live like some hermit in protest against 'da man.' What are you? One of those boys that acts all angsty and angry while their parents are paying their way through college?

I see I hit a nerve. Good.

Too bad your brain cells seem to be dead. Nope, nothing I can do with dead brain cells. Brain damage just tends to bring out the worst in people. You know, irritability, cussing, insults, and violence. That sort of thing. Don't worry, I don't take it personally.
 
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I see I hit a nerve. Good.

Too bad your brain cells seem to be dead. Nope, nothing I can do with dead brain cells. Brain damage just tends to bring out the worst in people. You know, irritability, cussing, insults, and violence. That sort of thing. Don't worry, I don't take it personally.
Translation = "Yeah, I'm one of those college kids who act all angsty and ragey about 'big bidness' while my well-to-do 'rents foot the bill."

Rage on, brah while you enjoy all your little comforts of life.
 

wuliheron

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Translation = "Yeah, I'm one of those college kids who act all angsty and ragey about 'big bidness' while my well-to-do 'rents foot the bill."

Rage on, brah while you enjoy all your little comforts of life.


Translation, your a greedy bastard who can't imagine anyone else not being a greedy bastard and being successful.
 

werepossum

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Translation, your a greedy bastard who can't imagine anyone else not being a greedy bastard and being successful.
It always strikes me as the height of hypocrisy to claim that someone wishing to keep most of what he earns is greedy whilst someone demanding a share of what he played no part in earning is not greedy. That seems completely backward.
 
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It always strikes me as the height of hypocrisy to claim that someone wishing to keep most of what he earns is greedy whilst someone demanding a share of what he played no part in earning is not greedy. That seems completely backward.
When he discards his own life luxuries and walks his own bs talk he can accuse others of being greedy. Until then he's being a hypocrite in more ways than one.
 

cwjerome

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When he discards his own life luxuries and walks his own bs talk he can accuse others of being greedy. Until then he's being a hypocrite in more ways than one.

The kid's a douche, eventually he'll grow out of his adolescent angst. He has been afforded to him amenities and a life made possible by the things he claims to hate. He stands on the shoulders of principles and concepts that for the first time gave man a chance at a life worth living, and stupidly calls for their destruction. He cannot recognize the long, torturous struggle of humans to lift themselves out of the mud and create a world where we don't have to live hand to mouth and day to day. Of course there are problems and issues to deal with, there always are, yet he cannot see them as such... and unable to comprehend the complexity of the world around him he damns the entire system. Thank god his kind are inconsequential, outliers whose only contribution is to serve a societal parasites, whining and lashing out at the engine that has moved the world forward while taking full advantage of the benefits.
 

wuliheron

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It always strikes me as the height of hypocrisy to claim that someone wishing to keep most of what he earns is greedy whilst someone demanding a share of what he played no part in earning is not greedy. That seems completely backward.


You know, Southern slave owners said the same thing. How dare people call them greedy for wanting to keep most of what "they" earned. How dare the Yankees for suggesting they had the right to take away their slaves! And, of course, you gotta watch out for those slaves who are inherently lazy, stupid, will rob you blind, and slit your throat in your sleep! Savages show no gratitude whatsoever for all the luxuries and civilizing influences we have to offer.
 
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gdansk

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I too believe Bernake deserves more credit (although I don't think this was his intent).

Now, I find it funny how people could be against the Iraq War (such am I), the War in Afghanistan (such am I) and not be opposed to the Libyan intervention. For intensive purposes this reeks of Afghanistan Jr., go in and help rebels. Doesn't sound fun, but at least this time we can shirk any responsibility for the stability of Libya post-Ghaddafi.
 
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You know, Southern slave owners said the same thing. How dare people call them greedy for wanting to keep most of what "they" earned. How dare the Yankees for suggesting they had the right to take away their slaves! And, of course, you gotta watch out for those slaves who are inherently lazy, stupid, will rob you blind, and slit your throat in your sleep! Savages show no gratitude whatsoever for all the luxuries and civilizing influences we have to offer.
Wow. Now dollars = slaves.

I can hear Bernanke already - "Let my greenbacks go."