Mccain will be angry. If bushy turns this into an Obama v. Bush campaign, mccain will get fuxored in his nasal cavities.
What an idiot.
What an idiot.
A guy with his reputation and approval ratings trying to slander the Democrats is nothing but great news for Democrats! Let's hope he does more.
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Did you bother to read what Bush actually said?
He didn't mention any one by name but was talking in general. This speech is similar to ones he has been making for years. And it is an argument that people have been making for decades as well.
Go back to Reagan and his answer when asked about the Soviet Union.
"We win, the lose"
When everyone else wanted to talk to the Soviets and accepted the Soviet Union as a permanent part of the world Reagan went against that few and created a plan to confront and challenge the Soviet Union. And look at what happened...
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Joe Lieberman hit the nail right on the head when he said ?President Bush got it exactly right today when he warned about the threat of Iran and its terrorist proxies like Hamas and Hezbollah. It is imperative that we reject the flawed and naïve thinking that denies or dismisses the words of extremists and terrorists when they shout ?Death to America? and ?Death to Israel,? and that holds that? if only we were to sit down and negotiate with these killers ? they would cease to threaten us. It is critical to our national security that our commander-in-chief is able to distinguish between America?s friends and America?s enemies, and not confuse the two.?
I'm no Bush fan but I'm definitely not a BDS guy either. But at least Bush is smart enough to realize and publically state that Iran is a real threat to ME peace...to actually believe that diplomacy will magically solved this problem is truly "flawed and naive" thinking. Diplomacy is a tool that's proven ineffective in this case...what do we do...keep banging away hoping for a different result? Dems for some reason seem to think that they're incredibly good diplomats and can be much more effective. I'm still waiting for Pelosi's and Carter's visits to pay off....yawn...still waiting.
I'm no Bush fan but I'm definitely not a BDS guy either. But at least Bush is smart enough to realize and publically state that Iran is a real threat to ME peace...to actually believe that diplomacy will magically solved this problem is truly "flawed and naive" thinking. Diplomacy is a tool that's proven ineffective in this case...what do we do...keep banging away hoping for a different result? Dems for some reason seem to think that they're incredibly good diplomats and can be much more effective. I'm still waiting for Pelosi's and Carter's visits to pay off....yawn...still waiting.
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Right...I'm sure that the Dems will fix it all shortly when they take the White House....like Carter and Clinton did.
Edit: My bad...forgot to add Willie.
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So I guess we would all feel better knowing we had the "moral high ground" the day after Iran nukes Israel or vice versa. Somehow that strikes me as very sad...I will find no comfort in that and hope you wouldn't either.
Aren't Nazis off limits?
Remember the early comparisons of the Republican call for the Iraq War? Remember the press going wild when anyone, no matter how obscure, dared to call Bush a Nazi?
But being disrespectful only seems to work one way, as usual.
Funny that Bush makes that analogy when most of his family's fortune was made through financing Nazi corporations during Hitler's reign.
Simple-minded rhetoric from a simple-minded president..
What a truly small man occupies such a large office at this hour. January 20 can not come fast enough. Bush should crawl into his Texas Rangers sleeping bag, zip it up tight, and wait for Jan. 21.
Remember the early comparisons of the Republican call for the Iraq War? Remember the press going wild when anyone, no matter how obscure, dared to call Bush a Nazi?
But being disrespectful only seems to work one way, as usual.
Funny that Bush makes that analogy when most of his family's fortune was made through financing Nazi corporations during Hitler's reign.
Simple-minded rhetoric from a simple-minded president..
What a truly small man occupies such a large office at this hour. January 20 can not come fast enough. Bush should crawl into his Texas Rangers sleeping bag, zip it up tight, and wait for Jan. 21.
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yours truly
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ffs hurry up george you've only got a few more months to start WWIII
poor fella, at least he tried
poor fella, at least he tried
Who would know better...about talking to and appeasing Hitler than a member of the Bush family? W's grandfather Prescott is practically the poster boy for American collaboration with the Nazis.
Prescott Bush was also alleged to have been involved in the "Business Plot", a conspiracy - according to General Smedley Butler - to overthrow the presidency of FDR, which would have also resulted in an alliance with Germany.
If the Republicans of the 1930s were allowed to have their way, Hitler would now be entering his 98 th year, well-respected as the Fuhrer of a United Europe. The Republicans of that day were opposed to stopping Hitler.
Typical nonsense from a man with no sense of reality, history or accountability.
Prescott Bush was also alleged to have been involved in the "Business Plot", a conspiracy - according to General Smedley Butler - to overthrow the presidency of FDR, which would have also resulted in an alliance with Germany.
If the Republicans of the 1930s were allowed to have their way, Hitler would now be entering his 98 th year, well-respected as the Fuhrer of a United Europe. The Republicans of that day were opposed to stopping Hitler.
Typical nonsense from a man with no sense of reality, history or accountability.
Why in the world would Iran, providing they even had nuclear weapons, use them on Israel? This makes no sense whatsoever, especially considering that the Israeli's have advanced counterstrike capabilities that guarantee any attacker using nuclear weapons would suffer a counterattack an order of magnitude worse.
Essentially, you attack Israel, your entire country ceases to exist, and untold millions of your citizens would die. Why would Iran do this? Are you saying they're so irrational that they'd willingly sacrifice their entire country to attempt to destroy Israel?
Jebeelzabub
You have a few things that I would like to address so I will go in order of the way that you listed them.
1. Who has rejected Iran, Hamas or Hezbollah as threats and just how effective has bombing them indiscriminately been for us in winning them over?
2. Isn't NOT MAKING MORE enemies equally important as being able to distinguish between our friends and enemies?
3. Obama is smart enough to see the threat of Iran also.
4. Obama also said that he would not rule out surgical strikes so he is not just talking about negotiating in blind faith and has left military options open.
5. Diplomacy doesn't work overnight. And in case you are wondering how effective Carter can be, why don't you ask the Israelis how many times they have been attacked by Egypt in the last couple of decades.
To rule out diplomacy before you even begin talking or fighting is even more stupid than trying it in the first place. But Leiberman, Cheney, Bush and everyone else with a hard on to protect Israel at all costs don't want to face that reality.
So Bush tells us...
1. Keep ignoring the recommendations of the Baker-Hamilton report - No surprises here
2. The voting patterns of American Jews can be manipulated by specious references to Hitler and the hollocaust - Lemme know how that works out
impressed by Obama's consistent handling of these attacks. Stay calm, stay rational, stay on message and hit back during the same news cycle.
1. Keep ignoring the recommendations of the Baker-Hamilton report - No surprises here
2. The voting patterns of American Jews can be manipulated by specious references to Hitler and the hollocaust - Lemme know how that works out
impressed by Obama's consistent handling of these attacks. Stay calm, stay rational, stay on message and hit back during the same news cycle.
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Why would Iran nuke Israel or vice versa? This is the sort of insane talk that makes this debate so difficult to have. There is literally zero reason either one of those states would nuke the other unless national destruction was at hand. Since everyone knows this, in a lot of ways a nuclear armed middle east could make the prospect of war LESS likely.
I'm so sick of the idea people have that Iran is just some sort of insane country that can't be predicted or controlled. They are every bit as rational actors as we in the US are if not moreso. They want nukes to defend themselves, not to nuke Israel. This is obvious.
Well Bush is still the president. When he is gone whoever is left can appease all they want. So are politicians made because they are appeasers, or just because he called them appeasers?
Are you seriously trying to say that Reagan caused the breakup of the Soviet Union? Maybe you should read up on the social and economic conditions of the Soviet Union in the 80's. Reagan being insane and ratcheting up our defense budget might have made them collapse a few years earlier, but to claim that the world had accepted the Soviet Union and somehow his policy of confrontation changed all that is ridiculous.
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