Bush back down to 38% Approval

[Todd33]

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1049

After edging above 40%, it fades again

President Bush?s job approval rating languishes under 40%, despite an upturn in the economy and a public relations onslaught defending the role of the U.S. military in rebuilding Iraq, a new telephone poll by Zogby International shows.

Just 38% of Americans said they approve of the job the President is doing, down from 41% in a national Zogby America survey conducted last month.

Not terrible important, but still news. I was hoping Zendri would be consistant and post it, but then I started turning blue.

Edit:

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/12/bush.iraq.poll/index.html

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Despite a series of recent speeches spelling out the administration's policies on Iraq, the majority of Americans in a new CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll said they do not believe President Bush has a plan that will achieve victory in Iraq.

Fifty-eight percent of those polled said Bush doesn't have a clear plan on Iraq, compared to 38 percent who said they believe Bush does have a plan for victory.

 

[ntdz]

Seriously, who cares? We've seen the same polls over and over and over again. Until he hits 50% approval...his approval ratings are terrible.

 

[Lemon law]

The first question is what is the error margin of the poll?

38 and 42 may indicate no basic change at all in the way the average American feels.

I know it don't matter to me----I knew Bush was an idiot five yeras ago, and last week, he still is this week, and I predict my feeling won't change next week.

What is important is that the factors likely to drag his positive ratings down far outnumber his chances to recoup.-------so I just predict a slow steady slide for W. until he hits his core support---who like me are not likely to change their minds.

How low can W. go?

 

[dmcanally]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
The first question is what is the error margin of the poll?

38 and 42 may indicate no basic change at all in the way the average American feels.

I know it don't matter to me----I knew Bush was an idiot five yeras ago, and last week, he still is this week, and I predict my feeling won't change next week.

What is important is that the factors likely to drag his positive ratings down far outnumber his chances to recoup.-------so I just predict a slow steady slide for W. until he hits his core support---who like me are not likely to change their minds.

How low can W. go?

Until someone splits his head in half or till 2008?

 

[Genx87]

This tired old subject again?

/sleep

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: Todd33
I was hoping Zendri would be consistant and post it, but then I started turning blue.

Your poll threads keep getting locked. Why not post directly in the official thread or at least Zendari's thread? Note: I've held off on the "I told you so" in that thread so far.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Well, the worst president in the nation's history deserves such a low approval rating. Under Bush's leadership, the U.S. made sharp movements in the direction of becoming a third world country.

 

[IronWing]

The only folks a Bush poll will matter much to are Republican candidates who need to decide if they should run as "close to Bush" or "independently minded".

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: ntdz
Seriously, who cares? We've seen the same polls over and over and over again. Until he hits 50% approval...his approval ratings are terrible.

I'm loving it. How low can it go!!!!

 

[zendari]

Clinton's approval has been even lower. No big deal.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: zendari
Clinton's approval has been even lower. No big deal.

There is a big difference. Clinton was elected with a minority of the vote - not many wanted him elected. His lowest poll ratings were close to his first election results. It is not really surprising that ~40% approved of him when ~40% voted him in before Clinton had the chance to accomplish anything. But he won over those people and got their support in the polls.

Bush is the opposite. He is losing his initial supporters. He started with ~50% voting for him and is down to the ~40% approval rating. This is after Bush has had years to get things accomplished.

Note: in this post with Clinton and Bush I say ~40% poll ratings due to variances in polls and errors in those polls. To be more accurate I could say both dropped to 37%+-3%.

 

[DealMonkey]

Bush has a plan for Iraq just like the Dems have a plan to take back the country! (No, there is no plan )

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: ntdz
Seriously, who cares? We've seen the same polls over and over and over again. Until he hits 50% approval...his approval ratings are terrible.

Thank you for acknowledging that. With the way Zendari acts, you'd think 42% was 99%.

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: zendari
Clinton's approval has been even lower. No big deal.

Lie much? He never dipped below 58% in his second term.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/11/02/opinion/polls/main1005327.shtml

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: zendari
Clinton's approval has been even lower. No big deal.

Lie much? He never dipped below 58% in his second term.

Come on now. You know for a fact, Todd33, that what Zendari said is not a lie. Clinton's approval was in the upper 30s as well (right after his first term election). If you want to restrict the topic from now on to just second term, that is fine. But since you never limited the discussion, what Zendari said is NOT a lie. A poor and uneducated comparison meant to mislead, yes. But not a lie.

 

[maluckey]

More Zogby

Zogby polls are a joke.


Zogby

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: maluckey
Zogby polls are a joke. Ethically questionable at best. Corrupt and self serving for the most part.

Rasmussen also has Bush down 4% from last week.

CNN/Gallup also has a drop (smaller than the two above) from last week.

All three are within the margin of error of each other. Thus, of course, all three must then be corrupt and self-serving, ethically questionable polls.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: ntdz
Seriously, who cares? We've seen the same polls over and over and over again. Until he hits 50% approval...his approval ratings are terrible.

Thank you for acknowledging that. With the way Zendari acts, you'd think 42% was 99%.

I still think that posting these polls is pointless...the election is over, and Bush isn't running for any more offices, so approval ratings are insignificant.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: ntdz
I still think that posting these polls is pointless...the election is over, and Bush isn't running for any more offices, so approval ratings are insignificant.

Not at all. There are many people preparing for elections in 11 months. Approval polls are critical at this stage. If the public likes/dislikes your party, then that sadly and unfairly reflects upon you as a candidate.

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: ntdz
I still think that posting these polls is pointless...the election is over, and Bush isn't running for any more offices, so approval ratings are insignificant.

They directly affect how Bush can get things through congress. Low polls essentially make him a lame duck, if he had a 70% approval rating it would force congress to join up with him and he'd pass stuff right and left. SSN reform anyone? He is bogged down with Iraq the same way Johnson was with Vietnam.

 

[Taggart]

I trust Rasmussen above all others. GWB at 44%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Bush_Job_Approval.htm

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: ntdz
Seriously, who cares? We've seen the same polls over and over and over again. Until he hits 50% approval...his approval ratings are terrible.

Thank you for acknowledging that. With the way Zendari acts, you'd think 42% was 99%.

The way you act, it seems like the score is something different than Bush 2, Democrats 0.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: zendari
the score is something different than Bush 2, Americans 0.

Fixed

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: ntdz
Seriously, who cares? We've seen the same polls over and over and over again. Until he hits 50% approval...his approval ratings are terrible.

Thank you for acknowledging that. With the way Zendari acts, you'd think 42% was 99%.

The way you act, it seems like the score is something different than Bush 2, Democrats 0.

Actually, you have to break out the Bush numbers a little bit. Its more like Bush 2 (USSC 1, Karl Rove 1), Dems 0.

 

[EXman]

Polls are like assholes...

do the math

At least this president does make every decision by taking a poll

Polls are for whiney pu$$ies in forums anyhow everyone knows that btw Fox had the same story but opposite results.