People aren't stupid. If they're upset then maybe its because the republicans are doing a poor job (at least in their opinion). What ever happened to personal responsibilty? Always blaming others when things go badly.
People aren't stupid. If they're upset then maybe its because the republicans are doing a poor job (at least in their opinion). What ever happened to personal responsibilty? Always blaming others when things go badly.
cKGunslinger
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While the President does not really directly affect the current economy, I think assuming that he has nothing to do with it is a bit of a stretch. Tax cuts/hikes, appropriations, legislation approval/vetos, etc all contribute to the state of the US economy.
They seemed to know that when the economy was in the toilet for three years. Now that the rich are getting richer and the economy is supposedly better they clamor for credit that isn't theirs by the very standard they set themselves.
What a bunch of hypocrites.
cKGunslinger
Lifer
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The president can do two things to help out the economy..
1) boost consumer confidence
2) set money aside to create goverement sponsored projects and those projects will create jobs.
Bush does not do either
Heh, that goes to tell you how sh!tty a job he is doing on everything else.
Oh, and I don't know about u, but I don't find all that comical when my hard earn tax dollar is thrown at another country with no good reason, and no end in sight.
It's entirely possible. If the people feel the Republicans are doing a poor job and that is the cause of their misfortunes they are free to elect new leadership.
Do you want a tissue for your tears? Give me a break, the only way anybody will hear his side of the story is if he tells it.
Nothing wrong with the president going out and letting the nation know his side. I think the presidents have relied too much on the MSM in this country for years.
Our unemployment rate is near 5%. The economy is humming along and yes people fall on hard times even in good times.
I have feelings like that but towards two of our leech um I mean social programs.
umbrella39
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Neocon agenda: SS and Medicaid helping Americans = BAD
Neocon agenda: Iraq war + billions of $$$ spent killing future SS and Medicaid recipients = GOOD
:roll:
Neocon agenda: Iraq war + billions of $$$ spent killing future SS and Medicaid recipients = GOOD
:roll:
The unemployment rate is excellent. Unfortunately, it is the caliber of job that has declined for many people. Like I said, I certainly don't avdocate running around in hysterics over the horrible economy, but its not all bubblegum and lollipops for people out there. Its stupid not to recognize what needs improvement.
umbrella39
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Where are 2004's numbers? The Heritage Foundations credo on spending:
"Just as before, the federal government should reduce taxes, cut wasteful spending, reform the massive entitlements, and fully fund America's national defense priorities."
Don't put stock in that premise. Especially since defense "priorities" are misguided at best.
Today, Heritage works closely with the Republican congressional majority. "Heritage is without question the most far-reaching conservative organization in the country in the war of ideas," Newt Gingrich proclaimed in a November 1994 speech.
Amount needed for basic security upgrades for subway and commuter trains in large cities: $6 BILLION
(Iraq spending equivalent: 20 days)
Bush budget allocation for train security: $100 MILLION
(Iraq equivalent: 8 hours)
Amount needed to equip all U.S. airports with machines that screen baggage for explosives: $3 BILLION
(Iraq equivalent: 10 days)
Bush budget allocation for baggage-screening machines: $400 MILLION
(Iraq equivalent: 32 hours)
Amount needed for security upgrades at 361 U.S. ports: $1.1 BILLION
(Iraq equivalent: 4 days)
Bush budget allocation for port security: $210 MILLION
(Iraq equivalent: 17 hours)
Amount needed to buy radiation portals for U.S. ports to detect dirty bombs in cargo: $290 MILLION
(Iraq equivalent: 23 hours)
Bush budget allocation for radiation portals: $43 MILLION
(Iraq equivalent: 3 hours)
Amount needed to help local firefighters preparefor terrorist attacks: $36.8 BILLION
(Iraq equivalent: 122 days)
Bush budget allocation for firefighter grants: $500 MILLION
(Iraq equivalent: 40 hours)
Amount needed to get local emergency medical crews ready for terrorist atttacks: $1.4 BILLION
(Iraq equivalent: 5 days)
Bush budget allocation for emergency medical training grants prior to eliminating program altogether: $50 MILLION
(Iraq equivalent: 4 hours)
Cutting taxes and increasing spending on the misguided WOT sure makes no sense at all. Let's eleminate SS and Medicaid so we can spend more on rebuilding our fvckups.
"Just as before, the federal government should reduce taxes, cut wasteful spending, reform the massive entitlements, and fully fund America's national defense priorities."
Don't put stock in that premise. Especially since defense "priorities" are misguided at best.
Today, Heritage works closely with the Republican congressional majority. "Heritage is without question the most far-reaching conservative organization in the country in the war of ideas," Newt Gingrich proclaimed in a November 1994 speech.
Amount needed for basic security upgrades for subway and commuter trains in large cities: $6 BILLION
(Iraq spending equivalent: 20 days)
Bush budget allocation for train security: $100 MILLION
(Iraq equivalent: 8 hours)
Amount needed to equip all U.S. airports with machines that screen baggage for explosives: $3 BILLION
(Iraq equivalent: 10 days)
Bush budget allocation for baggage-screening machines: $400 MILLION
(Iraq equivalent: 32 hours)
Amount needed for security upgrades at 361 U.S. ports: $1.1 BILLION
(Iraq equivalent: 4 days)
Bush budget allocation for port security: $210 MILLION
(Iraq equivalent: 17 hours)
Amount needed to buy radiation portals for U.S. ports to detect dirty bombs in cargo: $290 MILLION
(Iraq equivalent: 23 hours)
Bush budget allocation for radiation portals: $43 MILLION
(Iraq equivalent: 3 hours)
Amount needed to help local firefighters preparefor terrorist attacks: $36.8 BILLION
(Iraq equivalent: 122 days)
Bush budget allocation for firefighter grants: $500 MILLION
(Iraq equivalent: 40 hours)
Amount needed to get local emergency medical crews ready for terrorist atttacks: $1.4 BILLION
(Iraq equivalent: 5 days)
Bush budget allocation for emergency medical training grants prior to eliminating program altogether: $50 MILLION
(Iraq equivalent: 4 hours)
Cutting taxes and increasing spending on the misguided WOT sure makes no sense at all. Let's eleminate SS and Medicaid so we can spend more on rebuilding our fvckups.
More importantly it represents about 4% of our GDP. Eisenhower's worrys about the industrial military compex were somewhat true back in the late 50s and early 60s when that number was over 20% of our GDP.
umbrella39
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Highly skilled high-tech professionals in the United States didn?t see much of a change in wages in the second quarter, according to a study released Wednesday, but they did see a slight decline compared to the same quarter last year.
The Yoh Index of Technology Wages found that hourly wages for highly skilled technology professionals in the U.S. remained stable from the end of the first quarter to the end of the second quarter of 2005. But average wages fell 1.2 percent compared to the second quarter of 2004.
The Yoh Index of Technology Wages found that hourly wages for highly skilled technology professionals in the U.S. remained stable from the end of the first quarter to the end of the second quarter of 2005. But average wages fell 1.2 percent compared to the second quarter of 2004.
Avg wage in this country is rising. If ever job as you said is being replaced with a worse job that wouldnt be happening.
As for the high-tech profession. Who knows, it could be any number of reasons why that sector is seeing that limitation on wage growth.
Could be cheaper workforce was found to they have been overpaid in the past.
umbrella39
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The ECI is one important gauge of wage-push inflation and a key worry of Fed policymakers, who fear that as the economy reaches full employment, wages will be bid up. Wages are up just 2.4% year over year, the slowest gain since the ECI began in the early 1980s. Wages will always go up, at least I hope they do, but if they can't keep up with increased health care costs, gas, prices hikes in food/groceries, people having less disposable income to spread around because of the aforementioned, the wage increases will not be keeping up with the cost of living. Hopefully we can do something to reduce the price at the pump which should trickle money back into our pockets so we can go spend $25 and watch 40 year old virgin 
Right now, I know I can't part with the money however, I do have a family to support and back to school shopping should stimulate things a bit. Longs to be single again!
Right now, I know I can't part with the money however, I do have a family to support and back to school shopping should stimulate things a bit. Longs to be single again!ive not heard either of what umbrella is saying nor what you are saying.
however, if the average is rising, does that really reflect what the low to mid-level income is? could it not also be explained in a rise in already high-income wages. for example, we all know the only thing congress ever agrees on is giving themselves a raise.
I find it absolutely comical that you only use meaningless statistics when they agree with your distorted perspective. Of couse wages go up, but then so does cost of living. Wages have consistently gone up since the begining of measuring wages. So whats your point? The big earners (the wealthy) may see gains of 5% (thanks to Bush Co.), but the middle class may see a decline of 2.5%. You do the math. Wait, you probably cant, 5 - 2.5 = 2.5.
Interesting...but what I've been hearing from the right the past several years is that the people (or should I say, middle Americans?) should be respected and listened to. In fact, I'm fairly sure I heard a lot of complaining from the right when the Democrats said the exact same thing you just said, only about the Republicans. But your statement implies that people are too dumb to recognize propaganda. So which is it, are middle Americans worth respecting and listening to...or does that just apply when they are on your side?
By the way, I have no personal feeling on the issue one way or another. I've always felt polls are a good way of finding out what the public thinks, but pretty useless for determining who's right and who's wrong.
I've seen numbers that concern me with two problems. The social divide (difference between rich and poor) and the rasie in income vs inflation. Its hard to pin these down specifically, because numbers can be fudged so much. But, anecdotally, I know many people working hard and getting little in retun. I want the US economy to be stronger and better, don't you? Progress is good.
I don't think so...
US real wages fall at fastest rate in 14 years
By Christopher Swann in Washington
Published: May 10 2005 17:59 | Last updated: May 11 2005 15:20
But why let the facts get in the way of your argument? That never stopped you before.
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