Burris admits Blagojevich donation request **Updated 2/20** Ill Gov. Calls on Burris to resign

NFS4

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I always knew there was something fishy about this guy. And either he is too stupid or just too naive to think that this stuff wouldn't be uncovered at some point. That being said, anyone that would accept a position from Blago in the first place is a little suspect IMHO.

CHICAGO - Sen. Roland Burris admitted Saturday that former Gov. Rod Blagojevich's brother asked him for a campaign contribution before the governor appointed Burris to the Senate.

The disclosure is at odds with Burris' testimony in January when an Illinois House impeachment committee specifically asked if he had ever spoken to Robert Blagojevich or other aides to the now-deposed governor about the Senate seat vacated by Barack Obama.

State Rep. Jim Durkin, the impeachment committee's ranking Republican, told The Associated Press that he and House Republican Leader Tom Cross would seek an outside investigation into whether Burris perjured himself.

Burris issued a statement Saturday saying he voluntarily gave the committee a Feb. 4 affidavit disclosing the contact with Robert Blagojevich because "there were several facts that I was not given the opportunity to make during my testimony to the impeachment committee."

The affidavit, released Saturday by Burris' office, said Robert Blagojevich called him three times ? once in October and twice after the November election ? to seek his fundraising assistance.

Robert Blagojevich's attorney said his client believes one of the conversations was recorded by the FBI.

Asked about selection for Senate
Burris, a Democrat like the governor, said he told Robert Blagojevich he would not raise money because it would look like he was trying to win favor from the governor for his appointment. But he said he did ask the governor's brother "what was going on with the selection of a successor" to Obama in the Senate and "he said he had heard my name mentioned in the discussions."

It's the second time Burris has changed his story. In an unsolicited affidavit to the impeachment committee on Jan. 6, Burris said he had only one limited conversation with the governor before accepting the Senate appointment.

Then, appearing before the committee Jan. 8, he said that last summer he told former Blagojevich aide-turned-lobbyist Lon Monk that he was interested in the post.

The governor appointed Burris, a former state attorney general, to Obama's Senate seat on Dec. 30, three weeks after federal agents arrested Blagojevich on a complaint alleging he had tried to trade the appointment for campaign cash or a high-paying job. The House impeached Blagojevich and the Senate removed him from office on Jan. 29.

Senate Democrats in Washington initially said they would not seat anyone appointed by Blagojevich, but eventually relented. One condition of their acceptance was Burris' testimony before the Illinois House committee.

Early contacts
State House impeachment committee chairwoman Barbara Flynn Currie, a Democrat, said she had received the affidavit but had not had time to compare it to Burris' testimony.

The affidavit also discloses for the first time that Burris told former Blagojevich advisers Doug Scofield and John Wyma of his interest in the post at a fundraiser in June, and later with Blagojevich chief of staff John Harris, who was arrested with Blagojevich on Dec. 9.

Scofield, Wyma and Harris were among the Blagojevich associates Burris was asked about in his Jan. 8 testimony by state Rep. Jim Durkin, the impeachment committee's ranking Republican.

In response, Burris said he had spoken only to Monk.

"This wasn't a couple of questions that I can understand someone may forget, it goes way beyond that," Durkin said Saturday. "To say that he wasn't given the opportunity to explain himself is a load of B.S."

Durkin said he doesn't trust majority Democrats in the General Assembly to conduct a fair investigation into whether Burris perjured himself. But he said he doesn't know yet who should conduct the inquiry.

A log of Harris' calls released to The Associated Press by the governor's office indicates Burris called Harris four times in November ? the last time on Nov. 26, when the log indicates the two spoke. Burris' affidavit says he had called Harris to recommend his nephew for a state job and during the conversation asked about the Senate seat.

A spokeswoman for Burris said he would not make himself available for interviews Saturday.

Robert Blagojevich's lawyer, Michael Ettinger, said his client contacted Burris in October to ask him to host a fundraiser for his brother because Burris had contributed in the past, but Burris said he didn't want to commit before the election. Ettinger said the subject of the Senate seat wasn't raised.

Ettinger said Robert Blagojevich remembers only one other conversation in November from the governor's campaign office, which the FBI had wiretapped at the time. He said his client confirmed Burris' account that he declined the fundraiser because of the potential conflict.

But he also told Ettinger no one on his brother's staff had ever mentioned Burris as being interested in the seat.

Glenn Selig, a spokesman for the former governor, did not have an immediate comment.

In explaining his incomplete testimony, Burris said in the affidavit he recalled mentioning Monk "but was then asked another question and did not mention anyone else."

His lawyer, Timothy Wright III, said in a cover letter that Burris answered "truthfully and to the best of his recollection," but that the "fluid nature" of the questioning and a review of the transcript showed Burris that he "was unable to fully respond to several matters."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29195951/
 

alphatarget1

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Is this the Democrats' "change we can believe in"? That their hopemonger started fearmongering to sell his pork giveaways? That the governor from his home state got ousted from trying to sell his seat?

Democrats = Republicans. They all suck.
 

winnar111

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This guy was too big to fail, so Zero and Reid and the rest of the Democrats flip flopped on him.
 

Billb2

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Originally posted by: alphatarget1
Is this the Democrats' "change we can believe in"? That their hopemonger started fearmongering to sell his pork giveaways? That the governor from his home state got ousted from trying to sell his seat?

Democrats = Republicans. They all suck.
No, the rest of the country is just now finding out how things work in Illinois.

Royko: What Clout Is
In a column entitled ?What Clout Is and Isn't,? which appeared in the Daily News on June 7, 1973, Mike Royko tackled a definition of clout:

[W]hat clout is in Chicago is political influence, as exercised through patronage, fixing, money, favors, and other traditional City Hall methods.

The easiest way to explain clout is through examples of the way it might be used in conversation.

?Nah, I don't need a building permit?I got clout in City Hall.?

?Hey, Charlie, I see you made foreman. Who's clouting for you??

?Lady, just tell your kid not to spit on the floor during trial and he'll get probation. I talked to my clout and he talked to the judge.?

?My tax bill this year is $1.50. Not bad for a three-flat, huh? I got clout in the assessor's office.?

?Ever since my clout died, they've been making me work a full eight hours. I've never worked an eight-hour week before.?

?My clout sent a letter to the mayor recommending me for a judgeship. Maybe I'll enroll in law school.?

Get the idea? Clout is used to circumvent the law, not to enforce it. It is used to bend rules, not follow them.



 

Thump553

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Burris has already proven himself to be an egotistic nutjob. Now it appears he is a liar as well. If he told the full truth before (when he was under oath) it is quite likely the Senate would not have accepted him.Hopefully the voters send him packing the next election. I sincerely hope decent Democratic candidates aren't reluctant to run against him.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: alphatarget1
Is this the Democrats' "change we can believe in"? That their hopemonger started fearmongering to sell his pork giveaways? That the governor from his home state got ousted from trying to sell his seat?

Democrats = Republicans. They all suck.

Please use the correct sarcasm...
"Change we can believe in!" - when Obama does something Clinton or Bush-esque
"Most ethical congress evar!' - when the dems in congress pull their crap
"Culture of corruption?" - when random dems do something corrupt.

In this case, it would be "Culture of corruption?"

 

Jiggz

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Please don't say this guy is another DEM with credibility or tax problem? Please don't!
 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Sheesh.. is there a single politician thats not corrupt?

**fixed**

Yeah, you democrats like to do that.. but the fact is, its nothing but democrat after democrat after democrat getting caught.. At this point.. its not 'politicians', its democrats.
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Sheesh.. is there a single politician thats not corrupt?

**fixed**

Yeah, you democrats like to do that.. but the fact is, its nothing but democrat after democrat after democrat getting caught.. At this point.. its not 'politicians', its democrats.

And a few years ago, it was republican, after republican, after republican that was getting caught for doing stupid shit.

You can't sit here with a straight face and tell me that one party has some "moral" authority over the other. They both equally blow smoke up our asses and lie/cheat/steal to get what they want while at the same time trying not to get caught.
 

ScottMac

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Originally posted by: Billb2
Originally posted by: alphatarget1
Is this the Democrats' "change we can believe in"? That their hopemonger started fearmongering to sell his pork giveaways? That the governor from his home state got ousted from trying to sell his seat?

Democrats = Republicans. They all suck.
No, the rest of the country is just now finding out how things work in Illinois.

Royko: What Clout Is
In a column entitled ?What Clout Is and Isn't,? which appeared in the Daily News on June 7, 1973, Mike Royko tackled a definition of clout:

[W]hat clout is in Chicago is political influence, as exercised through patronage, fixing, money, favors, and other traditional City Hall methods.

The easiest way to explain clout is through examples of the way it might be used in conversation.

?Nah, I don't need a building permit?I got clout in City Hall.?

?Hey, Charlie, I see you made foreman. Who's clouting for you??

?Lady, just tell your kid not to spit on the floor during trial and he'll get probation. I talked to my clout and he talked to the judge.?

?My tax bill this year is $1.50. Not bad for a three-flat, huh? I got clout in the assessor's office.?

?Ever since my clout died, they've been making me work a full eight hours. I've never worked an eight-hour week before.?

?My clout sent a letter to the mayor recommending me for a judgeship. Maybe I'll enroll in law school.?

Get the idea? Clout is used to circumvent the law, not to enforce it. It is used to bend rules, not follow them.




John Kass at the Trib does a pretty good job of staying on top of "The Chicago Way";
http://www.chicagotribune.com/...ss,0,5724822.columnist
 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Sheesh.. is there a single politician thats not corrupt?

**fixed**

Yeah, you democrats like to do that.. but the fact is, its nothing but democrat after democrat after democrat getting caught.. At this point.. its not 'politicians', its democrats.

And a few years ago, it was republican, after republican, after republican that was getting caught for doing stupid shit.

You can't sit here with a straight face and tell me that one party has some "moral" authority over the other. They both equally blow smoke up our asses and lie/cheat/steal to get what they want while at the same time trying not to get caught.

Republicans got caught in sex scandals.. democrats seem to be getting caught cheating the American taxpayer, taking bribes, etc. I think I'd rather have a Republican asking for gay sex then democrats selling their votes to the highest bidders.
 

Lemon law

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The charge of perjury is most serious here. Burris stated under oath that there was no quo prid quo to the Blago appointment to US Senate for Burris.

Certainly if Burris had paid the blackmail, it would be perjury. But as Burris did not pay the blackmail, that is under some doubt.

Now the question is becomes, who is a credible source of a blackmail demanding? Sadly, Blago's brother may rise to that standing, but we might question any email suggestion by Joe blow from Kokomo requesting a big donation to his or hers favorite charity, namely Joe the Plumber or whoever.

In short, its in a gray area of the law.
 

palehorse

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Originally posted by: NFS4
You can't sit here with a straight face and tell me that one party has some "moral" authority over the other. They both equally blow smoke up our asses and lie/cheat/steal to get what they want while at the same time trying not to get caught.
This.

not surprised... at all.
 

NFS4

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Illinois GOP leader calls on Burris to resign

CHICAGO - Just as Illinois was moving past the agony and embarrassment of former Gov. Rod Blagojevich's ousting, the fellow Democrat whom Blagojevich appointed to the U.S. Senate was hearing calls for his own resignation Sunday amid allegations he lied to legislators.

Freshman Sen. Roland Burris released an affidavit on Saturday that contradicts his statements last month to a House committee investigating Blagojevich's impeachment.

"I can't believe anything that comes out of Mr. Burris at this point," Rep. Jim Durkin, the impeachment committee's ranking Republican, said at a news conference Sunday. "I think it would be in the best interest of the state if he resigned because I don't think the state can stand this anymore."
 

CPA

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It's truly a shame. He won't resign and the Senate won't oust him out. There will be some hemming and hawing until something else pops in the news and then it'll get swept under the rug.
 

NFS4

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Dirty bastard

Burris tried to fundraise for gov.
Illinois senator says he was unable to raise money for Blagojevich
The Associated Press
updated 4:35 p.m. ET, Tues., Feb. 17, 2009

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. - Sen. Roland Burris has acknowledged trying to raise money for former Gov. Rod Blagojevich before being appointed to the Senate. According to a transcript posted on the Chicago Tribune's Web site, Burris told reporters in Peoria Monday night that he talked to some friends about putting together a fundraiser after being called by the ex-governor's brother.

But Burris says he told Rob Blagojevich shortly after the November election that he couldn't get any friends to contribute and suggested he might be able to find others.

Burris testified last month to a committee that recommended impeaching Rod Blagojevich that he had told only one Blagojevich associate he was interested in being senator.

But he released an affidavit over the weekend indicating he had spoken to four others, including the calls from Rob Blagojevich.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29242558/
 

winnar111

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So the man is nominated by a corrupt governor who he was more than friends with, and has clearly lied on multiple occasions. Zero and Reid flip flopped and fell in line.

I guess change did come from Illinois to Washington. Wonder if the 'We won't seat Burris' crowd will now kick him out.
 

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More holes in Burris? story

U.S. Sen. Roland Burris had more contacts with then-Gov. Rod Blagojevich?s chief of staff before being appointed to his Senate seat than he disclosed in his most recent affidavit, phone records and interviews show.

One of the calls to John Harris came Nov. 13, the day Burris discussed the possibility of raising money for the governor with Blagojevich?s brother Robert, according to phone records obtained by the Sun-Times and sources. That call was likely caught on an FBI wiretap.

All told, Burris called Harris, who resigned after he was criminally charged Dec. 9, four times in the weeks following the Nov. 4 election and appears to have spoken to Harris on Nov. 26, phone records show.

In the Feb. 4 affidavit, which has set off a political wildfire because it dramatically altered earlier sworn statements, Burris acknowledged only reaching out to Harris once last October and getting a return phone call three weeks later.

Burris depicted his discussion with Harris as having included a passing reference to the Senate seat. But sources say Burris made a hard pitch to Harris ? as well as other Blagojevich aides ? about being named to Barack Obama?s seat.

The Burris camp declined to comment about the apparent discrepancies in his latest affidavit.
 

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Originally posted by: winnar111

So the man is nominated by a corrupt governor who he was more than friends with, and has clearly lied on multiple occasions. Zero and Reid flip flopped and fell in line.

I guess change did come from Illinois to Washington. Wonder if the 'We won't seat Burris' crowd will now kick him out.

This is TOTALLY Obama's fault.

CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVES IN?!?!!211!1!!
 

rudder

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Sheesh.. is there a single politician in Washington that's not corrupt?

Fixed for fairness and something everyone in P&N can agree on. Well, the more intelligent ones anyway.

 

CPA

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Originally posted by: sciwizam
More holes in Burris? story

U.S. Sen. Roland Burris had more contacts with then-Gov. Rod Blagojevich?s chief of staff before being appointed to his Senate seat than he disclosed in his most recent affidavit, phone records and interviews show.

One of the calls to John Harris came Nov. 13, the day Burris discussed the possibility of raising money for the governor with Blagojevich?s brother Robert, according to phone records obtained by the Sun-Times and sources. That call was likely caught on an FBI wiretap.

All told, Burris called Harris, who resigned after he was criminally charged Dec. 9, four times in the weeks following the Nov. 4 election and appears to have spoken to Harris on Nov. 26, phone records show.

In the Feb. 4 affidavit, which has set off a political wildfire because it dramatically altered earlier sworn statements, Burris acknowledged only reaching out to Harris once last October and getting a return phone call three weeks later.

Burris depicted his discussion with Harris as having included a passing reference to the Senate seat. But sources say Burris made a hard pitch to Harris ? as well as other Blagojevich aides ? about being named to Barack Obama?s seat.

The Burris camp declined to comment about the apparent discrepancies in his latest affidavit.

jeezus f'in christ, when will this guy's lies stop? C'mon Dems do the right thing and throw this guy out already.