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hal2kilo

hal2kilo

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Pretty thorough review of the failure of Trump campaign to use the Ukraine/Hunter Biden story to gain traction and have any affect on the election.

www.politico.com

How 'Obamagate' and Hunter’s 'laptop from hell' fizzled

The Logan Act. Burisma. Tony Bobulinski. John Brennan. Unmasking. The Durham probe. They were all on Trump’s last-ditch Bingo card, flummoxing voters.
www.politico.com www.politico.com
 
mikeymikec

mikeymikec

Lifer
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Commodus

Commodus

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s0me0nesmind1 said:
OMG Hes being harassed by Democrat cronnies! The deep state is after him! QAnon was right!
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The sad thing is that this is exactly how many conservatives will see it. You can practically see the cognitive process as they do everything to avoid accepting reality (that the scandal was a fake hit piece meant to derail the election).
 
nakedfrog

nakedfrog

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compuwiz1 said:
Sometimes people can be wrong? Have you ever? I bet you are probably one of those who thought Hillary was the sure thing. I was very wrong about the 2018 mid terms. I won't be this time. I don't need polls to see the enthusiasm gap between Biden and Trump, and Trump voters don't answer to pollsters, so they are not being counted with any accuracy. Joe's not out on the campaign trail and we have the election a week from Tuesday. Trump is pulling huge crowds and did 3 events in one day. Biden doesn't have the energy and stamina of Trump...not even close. Joe can't fill a lunch room. Joe won't get the work done because Joe can't do it. Enough people know this and I'm not even touching on the current scandal.
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So, any new thoughts or introspection a month later?
 
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cytg111

cytg111

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nakedfrog said:
So, any new thoughts or introspection a month later?
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To be fair he was not like a 100% wrong. He was 56% wrong and still 10M magas was added to the ranks... its just there was more anti magas, still.
404 landslide not found. You got shit to address before this goes on repeat.
 
cytg111

cytg111

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fskimospy said:
Trump lost by the largest margin by an incumbent since FDR beat Hoover. That’s...really bad.
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Yes. But 10M more MAGA retards came forward? Is Biden up to 80M now? Its 80M cause people rejected Trump! Not so much for Biden...
Consulting the time streams here and the projection is clear, those numbers will already be waining by 2024, Biden has encumbent advantage and Fitton may not have reached full form yet, but, by 2028 a competent Trumpian is ready to run and the Trump-rejection-crowd is fast asleep again.... Meanwhile the magas have been waiting for their savior reborn.

What I am saying is you have to stomp out Fox news... something like that. Its poison.
 
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feralkid

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cytg111 said:
Yes. But 10M more MAGA retards came forward? Is Biden up to 80M now? Its 80M cause people rejected Trump! Not so much for Biden...
Consulting the time streams here and the projection is clear, those numbers will already be waining by 2024, Biden has encumbent advantage and Fitton may not have reached full form yet, but, by 2028 a competent Trumpian is ready to run and the Trump-rejection-crowd is fast asleep again.... Meanwhile the magas have been waiting for their savior reborn.

What I am saying is you have to stomp out Fox news... something like that. Its poison.
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Agreed; But...How?

 
cytg111

cytg111

Lifer
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feralkid said:
Agreed; But...How?

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I dont know how effective that fairness doctrine would be? But if that would do it, great! Otherwise step it up into the ugly, I know that is not ideal, but... alternative is bye bye experiment and hello Trumpian mafia state.
Fox has rolled with Russian disinformation more than once in context of elections right? How is that not treason? How is Hannity not committing treason?
 
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pmv

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fskimospy said:
Trump lost by the largest margin by an incumbent since FDR beat Hoover. That’s...really bad.
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Honestly seems like a mixed-picture, to me. The one thing Trump did achieve was to reverse the historical decline in turn-out. Safe to say that people had strong views about him. But while Biden got the most votes ever, Trump got the second-most. Seems safe to say the country is polarised. And the Dems "electoral fraud" was strangely incompetent as they probably haven't got the Senate. In sane times the backlash against someone as inept as Trump, in the middle of a public-health disaster, would have been overwhelming.

That, according to one survey I heard reported today, 80% of Republicans think the election was fraudulent is another worrying sign. I guess part of the motivation for that is to not have to feel embarrassed by previous beliefs like compuwiz's. If you convince yourself it was won fraudulently then you don't have to deal with the realisation that your previous confidence was entirely misplaced.
 
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ch33zw1z

ch33zw1z

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Why would you need a pardon if you're not guilty? Wasn't he steamrolled by the FBI? Lol...
 
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