Burglars murdered by English "home owner"

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classy

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Originally posted by: piasabird
A lot of people end up dead after criminals break into their house in the USA. A burglar is just as likely to kill you. It was 2 against 1, and they broke into the house, they deserve what they got. As far as you know, the burglars threatened the man with bodily harm and it was self defense.

Were these two english boys or Muslims?

WTF? Show some numbers, lol. One, most burgalries occur during the day, when no one is home. Two, in 2004 FBI data they listed 988 people died during a break in. Now clearly thats a lot of people. But your statement a burgular is likely to kill you is somewhat a stretch, a long stretch. There were over 2,000,000 burgarlies in 2004. So that means a death linked with a burgurlarly amounts to less than half a percent. Now I am not sympathzing with creeps who do this stuff, but over-dramatizing is lame.
 

Patranus

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Originally posted by: classy
Originally posted by: piasabird
A lot of people end up dead after criminals break into their house in the USA. A burglar is just as likely to kill you. It was 2 against 1, and they broke into the house, they deserve what they got. As far as you know, the burglars threatened the man with bodily harm and it was self defense.

Were these two english boys or Muslims?

WTF? Show some numbers, lol. One, most burgalries occur during the day, when no one is home. Two, in 2004 FBI data they listed 988 people died during a break in. Now clearly thats a lot of people. But your statement a burgular is likely to kill you is somewhat a stretch, a long stretch. There were over 2,000,000 burgarlies in 2004. So that means a death linked with a burgurlarly amounts to less than half a percent. Now I am not sympathzing with creeps who do this stuff, but over-dramatizing is lame.

So you would take the chance that a criminal wouldn't kill you?
I like the odds off putting my self in a position to save my own life.
 

bfdd

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Why does he need to have the stipulation of "i was protecting myself and my family." These people broke in to steal from him. At most he should just yell for them to stop and stay put if they don't fuckin kill em both.
 

LumbergTech

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Originally posted by: Patranus
Originally posted by: classy
Originally posted by: piasabird
A lot of people end up dead after criminals break into their house in the USA. A burglar is just as likely to kill you. It was 2 against 1, and they broke into the house, they deserve what they got. As far as you know, the burglars threatened the man with bodily harm and it was self defense.

Were these two english boys or Muslims?

WTF? Show some numbers, lol. One, most burgalries occur during the day, when no one is home. Two, in 2004 FBI data they listed 988 people died during a break in. Now clearly thats a lot of people. But your statement a burgular is likely to kill you is somewhat a stretch, a long stretch. There were over 2,000,000 burgarlies in 2004. So that means a death linked with a burgurlarly amounts to less than half a percent. Now I am not sympathzing with creeps who do this stuff, but over-dramatizing is lame.

So you would take the chance that a criminal wouldn't kill you?
I like the odds off putting my self in a position to save my own life.

so you would like to improve your chances by .000499
 

totalnoob

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
He should be tried, all right, but not for killing one of them but because he didn't kill both of them.

This if the first time I've ever agreed with moonbeam. Someone breaks into my house, it's over for them.
 

rudder

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Originally posted by: classy
Originally posted by: piasabird
A lot of people end up dead after criminals break into their house in the USA. A burglar is just as likely to kill you. It was 2 against 1, and they broke into the house, they deserve what they got. As far as you know, the burglars threatened the man with bodily harm and it was self defense.

Were these two english boys or Muslims?

WTF? Show some numbers, lol. One, most burgalries occur during the day, when no one is home. Two, in 2004 FBI data they listed 988 people died during a break in. Now clearly thats a lot of people. But your statement a burgular is likely to kill you is somewhat a stretch, a long stretch. There were over 2,000,000 burgarlies in 2004. So that means a death linked with a burgurlarly amounts to less than half a percent. Now I am not sympathzing with creeps who do this stuff, but over-dramatizing is lame.

Does the FBI data differentiate between serial burglar and say someone who is on a 3 day meth high looking for a quick buck? What about the statistics where the homeowner did not die but was assaulted/raped?

A serial burglar will most likely check out your house before robbing it making sure the homeowner is not around. A drug addicted one probably does not take the time to bother with that. So I would say if a burglar enters your home when you are there.. he will probably be more likely the type to assault you. But as a homeowner, I do not care for the reason why a criminal entered my home. I am going to do my best to disable them first, then ask questions later.

 

CPA

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Originally posted by: ahurtt
Wow tough call on this one. . .clearly the dude is a psychopath and could be a potential menace to society. YOU MOTHER FUCKER YOU MADE ME SPILL COFFEE ON MY TIE! DIE DIE DIE DIE!!!
On the other hand. . .I guess those stupid kids will never rob anybody else and he made a good example of what can go wrong out of them.
But still. . .yeah. . .probably 2 or 3 stabs each would have sufficed. Once you go past 3 stabs you're just doing it for shits n' giggles and that's kind of a problem.

Let me guess, if he had a gun you would only be satisfied if he shot them in the leg or shot up in the air.
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: shira
Well, here's a more complete accounting of the incident. But it's still not clear why the CPS lawyer concluded that Roberts crossed the line.

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F that. Now it's confirmed he was in a struggle and they want to charge him?! F that, F Britain and F anyone who sides with the scumbag criminals!
 

Patranus

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Originally posted by: classy
Originally posted by: piasabird
A lot of people end up dead after criminals break into their house in the USA. A burglar is just as likely to kill you. It was 2 against 1, and they broke into the house, they deserve what they got. As far as you know, the burglars threatened the man with bodily harm and it was self defense.

Were these two english boys or Muslims?

WTF? Show some numbers, lol. One, most burgalries occur during the day, when no one is home. Two, in 2004 FBI data they listed 988 people died during a break in. Now clearly thats a lot of people. But your statement a burgular is likely to kill you is somewhat a stretch, a long stretch. There were over 2,000,000 burgarlies in 2004. So that means a death linked with a burgurlarly amounts to less than half a percent. Now I am not sympathzing with creeps who do this stuff, but over-dramatizing is lame.

How many people were at their property during these 2,000,000 burglaries in 2004?
 

Mr. Lennon

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I'm going with stab first, ask questions later. The guy probably didn't know if those kids were carrying any weapons. Now if the police found an excess of 15+ stab wounds...then yeah he went overboard. If these boys ran for their life and the homeowner still pursued them...he deserves some jail time.
 

bob4432

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Originally posted by: Nebor
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_...nghamshire/8328012.stm

I don't understand what would drive a seemingly normal person to STAB another person to death. These were just KIDS, clearly in need of money for food, or books for school. At least one of the children survived, imagine if this happened here, and this psycho had a gun.

uuummm, what about the fear of being killed yourself. is this some kind of a joke you are failing at making or do you really believe that the guy should be in trouble?

read a bit about castle doctrine in the free states...

if you are serious, how have you been so pussified that protecting yourself from what you can only assume is going to be a life and death situation an issue? it is either you or them, so are you saying you would chose they live and you die?

wow, i truely hope this is just your bad attempt at a joke....:shocked:
 

bob4432

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Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
I'm going with stab first, ask questions later. The guy probably didn't know if those kids were carrying any weapons. Now if the police found an excess of 15+ stab wounds...then yeah he went overboard. If these boys ran for their life and the homeowner still pursued them...he deserves some jail time.

in your opinion, during an attack/fight for your life, you are suppose to count the number of stab wounds you have inflicted?
 

shira

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Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
I'm going with stab first, ask questions later. The guy probably didn't know if those kids were carrying any weapons. Now if the police found an excess of 15+ stab wounds...then yeah he went overboard. If these boys ran for their life and the homeowner still pursued them...he deserves some jail time.

The more detailed article said Roberts first chased the 14-year-old, and then returned to his mother's house where the 17-year-ld - Juett - "confronted" him - whatever THAT means. It doesn't sound like Juett had a weapon. If Juett was standing there passively and Roberts attacked him, stabbing him even after Juett went down, a claim of self defense would be difficult to believe.
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: shira
Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
I'm going with stab first, ask questions later. The guy probably didn't know if those kids were carrying any weapons. Now if the police found an excess of 15+ stab wounds...then yeah he went overboard. If these boys ran for their life and the homeowner still pursued them...he deserves some jail time.

The more detailed article said Roberts first chased the 14-year-old, and then returned to his mother's house where the 17-year-ld - Juett - "confronted" him - whatever THAT means. It doesn't sound like Juett had a weapon. If Juett was standing there passively and Roberts attacked him, stabbing him even after Juett went down, a claim of self defense would be difficult to believe.

read the rest of the f'on article. It states that there was a struggle. I don't care if he went down, pleaded on his hands and knees and wept to baby jesus, the guy got what he deserved. Don't break into other peoples homes if you're not ready to accept the consequences.
 

HannibalX

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I've never tried to rob anyone and amazingly no one has ever stabbed me. Funny how that works?