Burglars murdered by English "home owner"

[Nebor]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_...nghamshire/8328012.stm

I don't understand what would drive a seemingly normal person to STAB another person to death. These were just KIDS, clearly in need of money for food, or books for school. At least one of the children survived, imagine if this happened here, and this psycho had a gun.

 

[CPA]

It must be so nice to know that you have no right to defend your property and your life, as well as the life of your loved ones, from criminals in Britain. What they hell has happened to that country.

 

[Vette73]

Got a better story? It leave a LOT of details out.


Would you feel the same if you found out he caught them and then stabbed them over several hours messing with them and then called the cops? Stabbed them well after they were no threat? Or stabbed him 50 times over and over...

Defending yourself and what he may have done are 2 different things.

 

[brencat]

Originally posted by: Nebor
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_...nghamshire/8328012.stm

I don't understand what would drive a seemingly normal person to STAB another person to death. These were just KIDS, clearly in need of money for food, or books for school. At least one of the children survived, imagine if this happened here, and this psycho had a gun.

So is breaking and entering with intent to steal and/or harm justified if it's money for food or books??? Fvcked up logic FTFL! They were 17 and 14...clearly old enough to know what they were doing was wrong. Be a good lesson for the others.

And yes, in Britain you have limited self-defense rights. That guy should be given a medal, not being brought up on charges.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: CPA
It must be so nice to know that you have no right to defend your property and your life, as well as the life of your loved ones, from criminals in Britain. What they hell has happened to that country.

Personally I feel it would be a relief to have those responsibilities lifted off of me and shouldered by someone else.

 

[0marTheZealot]

Sarcasm fails on the internet

 

[CitizenKain]

Property is more important then life to some people. I don't jerk off to the thought of murdering people you guys though.

 

[Moonbeam]

He should be tried, all right, but not for killing one of them but because he didn't kill both of them.

 

[DukeN]

Too many details missing from the article.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: DukeN
Too many details missing from the article.

No doubt, if he was defending himself from bodily harm or needed to stab those kids to prevent them from stealing his property that's one thing, if he purposely executed that kid for breaking in that's another.

 

[StageLeft]

accused of wounding with intent.

When you stab somebody what the fvck else is your intent?

This article is very spartan. It gives no details at all, really. I do know that England has, by my standard, overly-constraining laws on what homeowners can do to defend themselves. Again, we have no idea if maybe it was day time he knew the kids, and happened to chase them around the block for 10 minutes before butchering them in a park while screaming out to Lucifer. The article just provides nothing.

 

[PokerGuy]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: DukeN
Too many details missing from the article.

No doubt, if he was defending himself from bodily harm or needed to stab those kids to prevent them from stealing his property that's one thing, if he purposely executed that kid for breaking in that's another.

Either way, good riddance, he should be commended for his actions.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: CitizenKain
Property is more important then life to some people. I don't jerk off to the thought of murdering people you guys though.

Criminals already believe your property is worth more than your life. Why shouldn't that feeling be reciprocated?

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: CitizenKain
Property is more important then life to some people. I don't jerk off to the thought of murdering people you guys though.

Criminals already believe your property is worth more than your life. Why shouldn't that feeling be reciprocated?

It wouldn't be that hopefully you and I don't have a criminal mentality?

 

[Jaskalas]

404: Details not found.

 

[ahurtt]

Wow tough call on this one. . .clearly the dude is a psychopath and could be a potential menace to society. YOU MOTHER FUCKER YOU MADE ME SPILL COFFEE ON MY TIE! DIE DIE DIE DIE!!!
On the other hand. . .I guess those stupid kids will never rob anybody else and he made a good example of what can go wrong out of them.
But still. . .yeah. . .probably 2 or 3 stabs each would have sufficed. Once you go past 3 stabs you're just doing it for shits n' giggles and that's kind of a problem.

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: brencat

Originally posted by: Nebor
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_...nghamshire/8328012.stm

I don't understand what would drive a seemingly normal person to STAB another person to death. These were just KIDS, clearly in need of money for food, or books for school. At least one of the children survived, imagine if this happened here, and this psycho had a gun.

So is breaking and entering with intent to steal and/or harm justified if it's money for food or books??? Fvcked up logic FTFL! They were 17 and 14...clearly old enough to know what they were doing was wrong. Be a good lesson for the others.

And yes, in Britain you have limited self-defense rights. That guy should be given a medal, not being brought up on charges.

If Roberts incapacitated Juett, but continued stabbing him even when it was clear that Juett was no longer a threat, Roberts deserves to fry.

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: PokerGuy

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: DukeN
Too many details missing from the article.

No doubt, if he was defending himself from bodily harm or needed to stab those kids to prevent them from stealing his property that's one thing, if he purposely executed that kid for breaking in that's another.

Either way, good riddance, he should be commended for his actions.

Without details, how can you possibly make this statement? Is it your opinion that killing criminals is praiseworthy, regardless of the circumstances?

 

[shira]

Well, here's a more complete accounting of the incident. But it's still not clear why the CPS lawyer concluded that Roberts crossed the line.

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[Patranus]

They should charge the parents of the children with their deaths.
It is time for society to send a message to parents that their negligence will not be tolerated.

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: Patranus
They should charge the parents of the children with their deaths.
It is time for society to send a message to parents that their negligence will not be tolerated.

Learn to read. There was a single death.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: PokerGuy

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
No doubt, if he was defending himself from bodily harm or needed to stab those kids to prevent them from stealing his property that's one thing, if he purposely executed that kid for breaking in that's another.

Either way, good riddance, he should be commended for his actions.

Without details, how can you possibly make this statement? Is it your opinion that killing criminals is praiseworthy, regardless of the circumstances?

That is what he said. I'd tell him to move to Saudi Arabia, but as they only cut thieves hands off, I'm guessing they are too liberal for him.

 

[classy]

It always amazes me how tough and badass folks are on this board :roll:. Yes the two guys broke were in the wrong, but whether or not they deserved to die is a different story. There are not enough details of the stabbing. Now if he fought them and stabbed them repeatedly and they were trying to flee, then thats murder. You can't even do that here in the US. You are only allowed to use the necessary amount to force to protect yourself from harm and I can asure you killing someone better be a last resort. With as little info as it is in that link, I don't how some of you can post the bs that you have. My Bad, I forgot everyone here is Jason Bourne.

 

[Patranus]

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: Patranus
They should charge the parents of the children with their deaths.
It is time for society to send a message to parents that their negligence will not be tolerated.

Learn to read. There was a single death.

Well, if that is the case, then they should charge the both the parents AND the other child with the death of the one child.

 

[piasabird]

A lot of people end up dead after criminals break into their house in the USA. A burglar is just as likely to kill you. It was 2 against 1, and they broke into the house, they deserve what they got. As far as you know, the burglars threatened the man with bodily harm and it was self defense.

Were these two english boys or Muslims?