Burglar in house, you have gun locked and loaded

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Burglar in house, you have gun locked and loaded

  • immediately shoot. 1 in the head, 2 in the chest. no questions asked

  • immediately shoot, but not to kill

  • anounce that you have gun and ask burglar to leave first

  • curl up like a bitch, hand over wife/gf, kids, and jewelry


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nick1985

Lifer
Dec 29, 2002
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I live in America where I'm scared that everyone's going to break into my house and rape my family (like we're something so special), so I make sure I have a gun on me at all times.

Whats your current plan for a break-in
 

2Xtreme21

Diamond Member
Jun 13, 2004
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Whats your current plan for a break-in

I told you. I sit and prepare at all times (you can read my 50 page "what to do during a break-in / minority uprising" guide I keep under my bed), because I live in perpetual fear, so don't worry about me.
 

nick1985

Lifer
Dec 29, 2002
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I told you. I sit and prepare at all times (you can read my 50 page "what to do during a break-in / minority uprising" guide I keep under my bed), because I live in perpetual fear, so don't worry about me.

So you are weak and helpless. Gotcha
 

nick1985

Lifer
Dec 29, 2002
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My home defense

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I keep it loaded with 7 shells of Centurion 12ga Home defense rounds

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6 buckshot and 1 .65 caliber marble. :thumbsup:
 

SarcasticDwarf

Diamond Member
Jun 8, 2001
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Dear god, the number of people who voted to shoot but not to kill is terrifying. You simply DO NOT have that as an option. When you shoot you are shooting with one and only one intent, to stop the threat. If you have the ability to shoot someone with the intent of creating a non-life-threatening injury then three things are the case:
1) You are an unfcking believably awesome shot under all conditions
2) Their threat was not as great as you think
3) You are not in the slightest bit worried about your shot missing and hurting someone innocent.
Apparently you are able to be woken up in the middle of the night, have adrenalin pour into you, take a shot at a moving target you can't see all that well, and manage to hit them in their hand thereby knocking the weapon away and causing them to immediately surrender. Good for you.

Remember, you do NOT want to go through the stress and court time to defend a shooting. I would much rather announce myself (depending on the situation) and have a 50% chance of scaring them away than have a 100% change of spending the next couple of months/years and tens of thousands of dollars defending myself.
 

KentState

Diamond Member
Oct 19, 2001
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There are many recorded incidents of people shot multiple times continuing on to cause significant damage, or even death. It's not uncommon for people shot 10 or more times to make a full recovery.

A co-worker/friend of mine was shot 6 times at 10 feet by a guy with a 9mm. He didn't realize what happened until the shooter ran off and he felt something warm running down his chest. He spent about 3 months in the hospital after that, but besides loosing 50% of his intestine, he's doing well. The biggest thing that saved him was that the shooter was cheap and didn't use hollow point bullets.

Moral of story, if you don't shoot to kill, then you are playing with your life. Fortunately, 99.99% of people will never be in that situation.
 

kranky

Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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I hope that I never have to use my gun on a person, but if someone comes in my house uninvited, that's what I'm going to do. No announcement, no retreat, no barricading myself in another room. I have no idea what they want or what they are armed with, so I prefer not to give them time to think about how best to attack me.

It's my home and I'm going to protect my family.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Look at how manly this guy is. Make sure you spray him in the face with the febreeze too. :)

lol people like you crack me up. you put down people who are willing to defend there family. I never understood why. odds are they will never use the weapon. but hell better to have it and need it and not have it and need it.
 

Malak

Lifer
Dec 4, 2004
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Lights out, close quarters, tight hallways... and you use a gun? Statistically the robber doesn't even have a gun, at best a knife. You might as well protect yourself with a pike.
 

2Xtreme21

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Jun 13, 2004
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I hope that I never have to use my gun on a person, but if someone comes in my house uninvited, that's what I'm going to do. No announcement, no retreat, no barricading myself in another room. I have no idea what they want or what they are armed with, so I prefer not to give them time to think about how best to attack me.

It's my home and I'm going to protect my family.

May wanna rethink that.
18 Pa. Cons. Stat. § 505 on the defense of self says there is no obligation to retreat from the home or workplace unless the actor was the initial aggressor or, in the latter case, set upon by a co-worker; however, "surrendering possession of a thing to a person asserting a claim of right thereto" and "complying with a demand that [one] abstain from any action which [one] has no duty to take" are listed in addition to retreating as avenues which, if open to the actor but not taken, invalidate justification for the use of deadly force. Deadly force itself is not justifiable unless "the actor believes that such force is necessary to protect himself against death, serious bodily injury, kidnapping or sexual intercourse compelled by force or threat." 18 Pa. Cons. Stat. § 507 allows the use of deadly force if the actor believes there has been an unlawful entry into his or her dwelling and believes that nothing less than deadly force will end the incursion; if the person on the receiving end of the deadly force is "attempting to dispossess [the actor] of his dwelling otherwise than under a claim of right to its possession;" or if deadly force is the only thing that will prevent a felony from being committed in the dwelling. In any of those cases, the property owner must first ask the interloper to desist — unless the owner believes that doing so would be "useless," "dangerous," or would result in the property being defended coming to substantial harm before the request to desist could be effectively communicated.

Though, really.. who's gonna break into your house? Mario Lemieux? I've seen the houses in Sewickley... do you have a 1/4 mile from your gated entrance to your front door? :p

EDIT WOOPS... Swissvale, not Sewickley. Erm, yeah.. you should own a gun then. Haha
 
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kranky

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Oct 9, 1999
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In any of those cases, the property owner must first ask the interloper to desist — unless the owner believes that doing so would be "useless," "dangerous," or would result in the property being defended coming to substantial harm before the request to desist could be effectively communicated.

I believe that doing so would be dangerous.

There's a saying... "When seconds count, the police are only minutes away."
 

sourceninja

Diamond Member
Mar 8, 2005
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My wife and I have discussed this situation a lot. Especially after the attempted home invasion across the street from us.

She works from home, so we had to develop 3 plans.

1) She is home and the house is robbed.
2) I am home and the house is robbed.
3) We are both home and the house is robbed.

1) If only she is home, this is the plan. She will be working at her upstairs office. If she hears any strange noises, she is to run to the bedroom across the hall and grab the 357 from the bedside. Then head into our walk-in closet. This is like a 10 foot long hallway with a solid door. She is to point the revolver at the door, call the police on speaker phone, and shoot anything that opens that door without first using our secret password or the 911 operator telling her the police are upstairs.

2) If I am home alone I typically walk room to room with my carry on. This is because the safe is in an inconvenient location so I don't go put it away until right before bed. My plan is to engage. I'm confident in my abilities and I don't think it will be a problem. In my state we have the legal right to defend our property, so I can feel confident that I don't need to put myself at any more risk then just finding and shooting them.

3) If we are both home, my wife will head to the closet spoke off before and load the shotgun I keep in there. I will take the 357 and check the house. If all is well I will use our password to let her know it is ok. If she does not get the password from me in 5 minutes she is to call the police.

That's pretty much it.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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I believe that doing so would be dangerous.

There's a saying... "When seconds count, the police are only minutes away."

and thats living in town. When you live in a area where i do even a emergency call is 15-20 minutes away. we have to depend on county and state police. neither of witch are close.
 

Turin39789

Lifer
Nov 21, 2000
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lol people like you crack me up. you put down people who are willing to defend there family. I never understood why. odds are they will never use the weapon. but hell better to have it and need it and not have it and need it.

Lights out, close quarters, tight hallways... and you use a gun? Statistically the robber doesn't even have a gun, at best a knife. You might as well protect yourself with a pike.

I have a feeling most don't realize how low the odds are, based on the number of posts we have about this here. To be honest I have no clue but assume they are very low.

I did 1.2 seconds of google and found this -

http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/273/22/1759

Methods.
—Between June 1 and August 31, 1994, Atlanta Police Department reports were screened to identify every case of unwanted entry into an occupied, single-family dwelling. Cases of sexual assault and incidents that involved cohabitants were excluded.

Results.
—A total of 198 cases were identified during the study interval. Half (99 cases) involved forced entry into the home. The victim and offender were acquainted in one third of cases. A firearm was carried by one or more offenders in 32 cases (17%). Seven offenders (3.5%) carried knives. In 42% of cases, the offender fled without confronting the victim. Victims who avoided confrontation were more likely to lose property but much less likely to be injured than those who were confronted by the offender. Resistance was attempted in 62 cases (31%), but the odds of injury were not significantly affected by the method of resistance. Forty cases (20%) resulted in one or more victims' being injured, including six (3%) who were shot. No one died. Three victims (1.5%) employed a firearm in self-protection. All three escaped injury, but one lost property.

but I'll be damned if I feel like reading the study and anaylyzing it's value.
 

lokiju

Lifer
May 29, 2003
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You never ever shoot someone without the intent to kill as far as I'm concerned.

If you shoot someone you better damn well be sure of it and that you make it count.

That said, I've had this same conversation recently and my take is it depends on a number of factors.

If something were to play out like this for example.

I wake up to hearing a sound that sounds like an intruder.

I grab my gun and quietly open the door and see the intruder before they see me.

If the intruder has no weapon and looks to be say a young kid that's up to no good, I may in that situation announce myself and say I have a weapon and to freeze while I yell to my wife to call 911 while I keep my eyes locked on the intruder.

In a similar situation but where I see the intruder holding a gun/weapon clearly and it's before the intruder sees me, as far as I'm concerned at that point is that this person has entered my house and has intent to kill, I fire without any announcement.

Of course this is all in theory but who knows wtf would happen IRL.
 

coloumb

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Being of the race that I am, I'd be arrested and spend the rest of my time in jail for trying to defend myself.

So I'd curl up like a bitch and let the burglar have his way.

Laws in the USA are not meant to protect minorities.

Oh..so you're white? ;)

A lot of people "plan" out how they'd handle an intruder - but when/if it finally happens - you'll end up doing something completely different unless you've had training/experience.

I'd personally invest in a home security setup that will automatically notify the appropriate enforcement agencies if someone tries to break into your house.
 

MotionMan

Lifer
Jan 11, 2006
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I've gone over it many times mentally and I'm already sure of what I would do. I would shoot center mass as many and as quickly as possible. No announcement, no sound, just bang-bang-bang. Then I'd look for others and call police. They're rarely alone.

Ditto. One more in the head, just to be sure.

MotionMan