Bullet hits Whitehouse window suspect wanted.

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hal2kilo

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3-4 blocks around the Whitehouse encompasses a fair amount of important stuff in DC. They did close the part of Pennsylvania Ave directly in front some years ago though.

I suspect a large part of the security is that attacking "The Whitehouse" is unlikely to accomplish much, RPG or no. Being able to hit the exact right part of the building exactly where the President is, and hit it hard enough to get to anyone inside, is probably more difficult than it sounds.

On the other hand, it's pretty easy to come up with a whole list of potentially "easy" sounding attacks on any number of targets...yet such attacks are incredibly rare. Either they're harder than we think, or there just aren't enough bad guys out there to spend that much time trying to protect everyone from everything.

The security people have become gods. Anything they come up with cannot be questioned. Screw trying to get anything productive done. It's rediculous. Cleared people, have to have vehicles that are already in the Operational Area, completely inspected before you can get on the pier. What used to take ten minutes takes 30. Have they extended the amount of refit time. Oh hell no. just do more with less, it's the American way. Oh, by the way just add money that's not there, makes it's own sauce.
 

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The security people have become gods. Anything they come up with cannot be questioned. Screw trying to get anything productive done. It's rediculous. Cleared people, have to have vehicles that are already in the Operational Area, completely inspected before you can get on the pier. What used to take ten minutes takes 30. Have they extended the amount of refit time. Oh hell no. just do more with less, it's the American way. Oh, by the way just add money that's not there, makes it's own sauce.

Overall we absolutely suck at rationally balancing security issues. 9/11 turned us into a bunch of security nutcases...it's the new "think of the children" issue were all steps must be taken regardless of cost.
 

Fear No Evil

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OWS rallies holds moment of silence for their fellow man who shot at the white house.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-sh...nors-suspected-white-house-shooter-moment-sil

I've been saying it for a while now. How long until the left get so out control they start killing people (or trying)? We keep hearing the media folks worried about the Tea Party people legally carrying firearms but here we have the left not only illegally carrying and using weapons but they are directing them at the POTUS. Then we have the OWS people showing their support for this?

This type of violent behavior and vitriol is becoming ACCEPTED by the radical left.
 

soundforbjt

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I've been saying it for a while now. How long until the left get so out control they start killing people (or trying)? We keep hearing the media folks worried about the Tea Party people legally carrying firearms but here we have the left not only illegally carrying and using weapons but they are directing them at the POTUS. Then we have the OWS people showing their support for this?

This type of violent behavior and vitriol is becoming ACCEPTED by the radical left.

This guy was a radical religious nut who thought the world was going to end on 11/11/11. Doesn't sound like a lefty to me.
 
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Fear No Evil

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This guy was a radical religious guy who thought the world was going to end on 11/11/11. Doesn't sound like a lefty to me.

Yeah I am sure he was a card carrying Republican Tea Partier.. o_O

Why would the OWS people give him a moment of silence? He was also apparently attending the DC OWS events... yep, definitely a right winger.
 

soundforbjt

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Yeah I am sure he was a card carrying Republican Tea Partier.. o_O

Why would the OWS people give him a moment of silence? He was also apparently attending the DC OWS events... yep, definitely a right winger.

I never said he was a righty, just that most radical religious people aren't leftys.
 

woolfe9999

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An Idaho man accused of firing an assault rifle at the White House believed he was Jesus and thought President Barack Obama was the Antichrist, according to court documents and those who knew him. At one point, he even suggested to an acquaintance the president was planning to implant computer tracking chips into children.

Can we now dispense with trying to make this guy an agent for either politiccal ideology or party now, or will these insipid comments continue?

There's also this:
Monte McCall said that during the meeting at Ortega's family's Mexican restaurant, Ortega pulled out worn sheets of yellow paper with handwritten notes and started to talk about his predictions that the world would end in 2012.

Anyone heard from nemisis1 recently?
 
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woolfe9999

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Did you listen to what's on the link? The guy says, "let's have a moment of silence in solidarity with the White House and the man who shot at the White House." Whatever this inarticulate idiot meant by this is anyone's guess. In any event, whatever someone said in San Diego has nothing to do with the shooter's actual motiviation. I said he isn't an agent for either political party, and nothing suggests otherwise.
 

CitizenKain

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I've been saying it for a while now. How long until the left get so out control they start killing people (or trying)? We keep hearing the media folks worried about the Tea Party people legally carrying firearms but here we have the left not only illegally carrying and using weapons but they are directing them at the POTUS. Then we have the OWS people showing their support for this?

This type of violent behavior and vitriol is becoming ACCEPTED by the radical left.

They'd be a long ways behind the right then. Not many lefties murdering doctors. That's all rightwing territory.
 

SandEagle

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Haha from the article..

"He will be charged with "carrying a dangerous weapon," police said."





That's it? Suuuuuuuuuure.



He had the word 'Israel' tattooed on his neck that's why. sounds like a false flag to blame muslims or OWS gone wrong.
 

ericlp

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Shooting suspect says he is "modern day Jesus Christ"



Hahaha! Who would have GUESSED?????? What would Jesus do? Man, it's always the RIGHT ... The whacked out extreme. I think we should ban guns and the bible.
 

Lanyap

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Shooting suspect says he is "modern day Jesus Christ"



Hahaha! Who would have GUESSED?????? What would Jesus do? Man, it's always the RIGHT ... The whacked out extreme. I think we should ban guns and the bible.


This guy is obviously psychologically disturbed and has latched on to religion to express it. He's far beyond right wing religious extremist. Trying to associate his actions to the right is extreme.

He'll probably turn out to be psychotic similar to Jared Lee Loughner.
 

Fern

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Can we now dispense with trying to make this guy an agent for either politiccal ideology or party now, or will these insipid comments continue?
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Yep.

Another person with serious mental issues and P&N plays the game of 'pinning a political tail on the donkey'.

I heard he was up for a life sentence in prison. I prefer he get the help he obviously needs. It's also probably cheaper for the taxpayer than just locking him up for life.

I find it alarming that he was actually able to shoot up the WH. A dose of bad luck and he may have injured or killed someone there.

Fern
 

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OWS rallies holds moment of silence for their fellow man who shot at the white house.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-sh...nors-suspected-white-house-shooter-moment-sil

Sounded like he said a moment of solidarity for the whitehouse and for the guy who supposedly shot at the white house ( from a speeding car half a mile away ).

I'm not going to pretend I support this guy. There are plenty of bumbling idiots at #occupy events.

If anybody were going to legitimately try to kill Obama I'd be willing to bet they wouldn't be a homeless #occupy protester who thinks he's jesus. Just look at other threads here and you can get a clear picture of the type of person who would actually try to kill obama. Not shoot randomly from a moving vehicle.
 

SandEagle

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he's Israeli. tries to cover it with a hispanic name. doesnt look hispanic to me. he's probably hiding his jewish heritage by pretending to be a christian. he's not crazy, but pretends to be Jesus to get off easy. probably will get sent back to his hometown.......a failed false flag op
 

woolfe9999

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he's Israeli. tries to cover it with a hispanic name. doesnt look hispanic to me. he's probably hiding his jewish heritage by pretending to be a christian. he's not crazy, but pretends to be Jesus to get off easy. probably will get sent back to his hometown.......a failed false flag op

What the fuck are you even talking about? You have a scintilla of evidence to back your latest anti-semitic conspiracy theory?
 

davmat787

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So this guy is apparently a jewish bible thumping religious righty extremist from OWS? I like how everyone immediately paints this guy to be whatever is most expedient and convenient to their personal partisan bullshit.

Soooo transparent.
 

SandEagle

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What the fuck are you even talking about? You have a scintilla of evidence to back your latest anti-semitic conspiracy theory?

first, how is that antisemitic? stop throwing that word around like a worn out ragdoll. third, he had the word 'Israel' tattooed on his neck. second, he looks israeli, not mexican
 

woolfe9999

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first, how is that antisemitic? stop throwing that word around like a worn out ragdoll. third, he had the word 'Israel' tattooed on his neck. second, he looks israeli, not mexican

It isn't being used like a ragdoll when referring to you, and especially not in this particular case. You think this guy is Jewish...for no stated reason. You think it's a conspiracy (a "false flag")...for no stated reason. Throwing around totally unsupported conspiracy theories about Jews committing nefarious deeds to further the interests of Israel..yes, that is anti-semitic. If you actually had evidence to support it...maybe not.

Now tell me, what about him makes you think he "looks Jewish?" And even assuming he does, why the fuck would an actual conspiring Israeli organization like the Mossad, for example, use someone who "looks Jewish" and has a tatoo that says "Israel" on his neck? I guess they're just really, really stupid...

- wolf
 
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