Building PCs for video editing class and have a question.

[ingeborgdot]

I am building some PCs for a video editing class we are starting. I have most of the materials picked out what I will be using. The CPU will be the Xeon E3-1230 V2. We cannot overclock so I am going with a Xeon cpu. Anyway my question is with video editing and no gaming, Do I need an aftermarket cooler? Thanks.

 

[DSF]

Without overclocking the only reason to get an aftermarket CPU is for noise concerns. I wouldn't worry about it personally unless you have an unlimited budget. People are pretty used to the computers in a lab setting having a hum.

 

[dma0991]

Totally unnecessary spending, especially for more than 1 PC with no obvious gain except lower temps and noise. If there would be a situation where it runs 100% for hours doing video work, then it might be useful.

 

[ingeborgdot]

Thanks so much. That is the kind of response I was hoping to get. $ saved helps out a lot. I just did not want to put the computers in jeopardy just to save a couple of bucks.

 

[dma0991]

The stock cooler provides sufficient cooling for its lifespan. Regular maintenance(dusting the fan, cleaning internal components) should be performed for longevity of the PCs, not aftermarket heatsinks.

 

[ingeborgdot]

I was wondering if the item I will be talking about is a good thing or just a gimmick. I don't know if I would use it but it is on the board anyway.


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This is found on the ASRock boards.

 

[ingeborgdot]

I was also wondering about these three boards and what would be the best one for a video editing board. It is going to be between one of these 3. The Asus is the only one with 1 USB 3.0 so I will have to buy an add on card for that but that makes it on par for price with the other two. No OC or games, just video editing. Thanks.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131982
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128591
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157369

 

[aigomorla]

i would still overclock and not let the teacher know i was overclocked
(feed him some mumbo jumbo like.. its TURBO MODE stuck on PermaON!!!).
I dun know how to turn it off!! im talking to ASROCK support but im failing hard... <--- use a bad company with TERRIBLE reply times..

I would probably do this just so i could finish 5-10min faster then everyone because my renduring time is decreased due to the overclock.




Yeah... im a rebel... even my comp-sci hardware teacher i had said he had no way to control me... and just gave me an A.
Final project was PC assembly... i built a full blown LC system.... u see why my hardware teacher gave up.


Anyhow OP..
U dont need an aftermarket sink if ur not overclocking.
The intel stock sink is within "acceptable" values for standard TDP.
I personally wouldnt get a xeon cpu regardless unless the price point was identical.
You have better options to resell a non xeon which is overclockable... that wasn't overclocked... then a straight non ocing xeon.

 

[alizee]

For me and audio editing, I definitely get aftermarket coolers. Not for overclocking, but because 120mm fans don't need to move very fast to get the same cooling power as the stock cooler. If the CPU fan isn't the loudest fan in your system, then don't worry about it because the noise of the other fans will drown it out. However, I'd say make sure to reduce the noise of everything, including the CPU fan/heatsink.

 

[ingeborgdot]

i would still overclock and not let the teacher know i was overclocked
(feed him some mumbo jumbo like.. its TURBO MODE stuck on PermaON!!!).
I dun know how to turn it off!! im talking to ASROCK support but im failing hard... <--- use a bad company with TERRIBLE reply times..

I would probably do this just so i could finish 5-10min faster then everyone because my renduring time is decreased due to the overclock.




Yeah... im a rebel... even my comp-sci hardware teacher i had said he had no way to control me... and just gave me an A.
Final project was PC assembly... i built a full blown LC system.... u see why my hardware teacher gave up.


Anyhow OP..
U dont need an aftermarket sink if ur not overclocking.
The intel stock sink is within "acceptable" values for standard TDP.
I personally wouldnt get a xeon cpu regardless unless the price point was identical.
You have better options to resell a non xeon which is overclockable... that wasn't overclocked... then a straight non ocing xeon.

I am the teacher. The tech dept. and the admin. know I do this at home and told me to not do it. So, I better not do it. Also, the Xeon is 80 bucks cheaper than any i7 I can get and as for selling later, that will be many years down the road. We are talking a govt. business (school). I am lucky to get as good as I am getting.

 

[ingeborgdot]

Any comment on the boards listed????

 

[pcunite]

Any comment on the boards listed?

Out of the choices you've listed, the Asus board ... but only because I'm a fan. Does it work with the Xeon E3-1230 V2? That's a different socket I think. All new Z87 boards have not been out long enough for us to know if there is any systemic issues with them yet. So, roll the dice.

About your original question. The stock heat sink is fine if the noise does not bother you and you won't be running full bore tasks all the time. If you're encoding video 5 hours out of an 8 hour day ... you might want to give it consideration. Truly though, I don't know if it would affect the overall useful life of the CPU.

 

[ingeborgdot]

There are issues in general with Haswell which I am sure you are well aware of. I have gotten PSU's that meet haswell requirements and of the people that have bought them, no one seems to have many issues other than that. I think someone said that they are so similar to 77 boards that many issues were not thought to happen. Who knows.

The E3 are 1150 sockets.

 

[aigomorla]

I am the teacher. The tech dept. and the admin. So, I better not do it.

wahhhh..... *goes off and hides...*

and ur building this yourself?

Id get a Dell in all honesty then.

That way if it breaks somehow.. the finger never gets pointed back at you, unless u really did break it.

 

[lehtv]

Yeah.. why not just get a pre built. Does the school not have any existing source for licensing systems, for example?

 

[ingeborgdot]

Yeah, building this myself. I have built nearly 200 computer in my life but not any for awhile so out of the loop for the last year and needed to catch up. I can't get a Dell close to this build quality for the money. Most parts are already ordered anyway. Not a Dell fan, and they can point the finger all they want to. Who cares. Dells are second quality to what I can build any day.
Find one with a Xeon E3 1230 V3,120GB SSD, 1TB WD Black HDD, 8GB G. Skill 1600 memory, high quality mobod, high quality psu, AMD 7790, and the warranties that come with all of it for under $1200 along with upgraded mouse, keyboard, and IPS 23"monitor. Not going to happen. I have tried. I can't build it to the specs I like.

 

[Torn Mind]

The E3-1230 V2 has been on the market for a long time and is compatible with LGA 1155 boards. The E3-1230 V3 is the latest in the series and compatible with Haswell boards. Limited overclocking should be available on the V2 version of the E3 at 4 bins above turbo.

 

[ingeborgdot]

That's right. The V3 is compatible with the boards I have listed. Z87 chips on 1150 boards. Just trying to see if anyone has taken a look at any of the 3. Chances are NOT, but I was hoping. I will have to pick one by tomorrow, so let's hope I pick a good one.

 

[lehtv]

The E3-1230 V2 has been on the market for a long time and is compatible with LGA 1155 boards. The E3-1230 V3 is the latest in the series and compatible with Haswell boards. Limited overclocking should be available on the V2 version of the E3 at 4 bins above turbo.

Pretty sure the Xeons are properly locked, not even allowing for a limited OC, unlike the non-K i5's and i7's

 

[aigomorla]

Most parts are already ordered anyway. Not a Dell fan, and they can point the finger all they want to. Who cares. Dells are second quality to what I can build any day.

then it looks like u have a solid build...

 

[ingeborgdot]

Yeah, if someone wants to do mild oc then Xeon is not the cpu. But if you want the best quality cpu and are not oc then the xeon is what you want. Made for 24/7 operation. Best non oc cpu you can buy.

 

[sm625]

Will you be using quicksync?

 

[ingeborgdot]

I am not familiar with intel quicksync. I am sure it will not work with a 1230 V3 though. Right?! What would I use it for? And what would I need to make it work? Would it work with my video editing software of Vegas Pro and Platinum Studio? Fill me in a little because you must know what it is because you asked. I am not familiar with quick sync so any info for me would sure help. I have looked at some video on it but still would like a little insight. First I would have to have a CPU that supports it I know. But would I need it? I would have discrete card AMD 7790 in the machine in question. What will quick sync help me out with? These machines will be mainly used for video editing. Thanks. Thanks.

 

[ClockHound]

Quicksync can speed your render times in Vegas. However, it still won't provide the same high quality render as CPU only. A little better quality than GPU assisted rendering tho. Where Quick sync won't help is in the timeline for efx preview where OpenCL/CUDA can offload some of the work from the CPU.

As with all things Vegas (10+year user myself) YMMV. But it's all hypothetical anyways, since the 1230 V3 doesn't have a iGPU in it. So, no QuickSand, QuickSync for you!

Check this thread for idle QS speculation on the Sony board: http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/Forums/ShowMessage.asp?Forum=4&MessageID=855487

Prolly not in the budget, but a 3930k would be the Vegas performance winner. UNLESS, Sony makes miraculous use of AVX2. Which I'm sure they will. By 2020. ;-)

Oh, and definitely get a decent 3rd party HSF. Not for thermal reasons, but for aural ones. Thermalright TrueSpirit 140 would be my choice. Cheap and Quiet.