Building On a Budget: $780

[Manny2260]

1. What YOUR PC will be used for. That means what types of tasks you'll be performing.
1080p Video, Gaming, Photoshop & General usages

2. What YOUR budget is. A price range is acceptable as long as it's not more than a 20% spread
$780

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.
United States

4. IF YOU have a brand preference. That means, are you an Intel-Fanboy, AMD-Fanboy, ATI-Fanboy, nVidia-Fanboy, Seagate-Fanboy, WD-Fanboy, etc.

Aslong as it works well, I have little bias.

5. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.

Nope, starting fresh, here.

6. IF YOU have searched and/or read similar threads.
Yes, but none of which had my price range.

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.
Default speed. Don't know all too much about over-clocking, honestly.

8. What resolution YOU plan on gaming with.
1600 x 900
9. WHEN do you plan to build it?
ASAP.

10. Don't ask for a build configuration critique or rating if you are thin skinned.
Got it.


I had this in mind: http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=14918151

With intentions of swapping the GFX card whenever possible.

 

[Slugbait]

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.
Default speed. Don't know all too much about over-clocking, honestly.

You just saved $40 on the HSF...drop that from your list.

You're overspending on the CoolerMaster...get a rebadged Seasonic for $35 AC/AR instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371030

You're overspending on a P67...save about $30-60 and go with the Z68 platform.

With a Z68, you can now remove the lousy video card from your list.

Personally, I'd go with the Ripjaws over the Snipers, save $5

5. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.

Nope, starting fresh, here.

Where are your input and display devices and operating system? I don't see any in your list.

 

[fffblackmage]

You can swap the WD Black 750GB for a Samsung F3 1TB. Similar performance, a bit more capacity, and it's $5 cheaper.

You can shave $8 off the cost of ram with DDR3-1333

Cheaper mobo - AsRock Z68 Pro3
With that, you can drop the video card like Slugbait suggested.
I also recommend the Antec Neo Eco PSU he mentioned. Excellent price and better quality PSU.

 

[superccs]

There's no point to the 6450, its the same speed as the on die i5 2500K GPU graphics....http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/...core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/11

 

[aphelion02]

People need to use the newegg's search function more:

2500k + 6870 system with Lian Li case for $705, not including $30 MIR. The promo codes are for the CPU, GPU, Case, PSU, and free shipping for the DVD drive.

 

[crimsonjax]

OS? Windows 7 oem is $100

 

[aphelion02]

He didn't include Win7 or monitor in his build, so I assume he doesn't need it or can get it outside the budget.

 

[Manny2260]

The build Aphelion posted is quite interesting. What do you guys think on that build as opposed to the build I posted?

Also, a friend of mine warned me of ASRock products. Not sure if its just his personal biases or not.

Excuse the underlining. Having a bit of an issue with getting rid of em.

Also, Aphelion's assumption is correct. I've got those two covered.

A bud of mine suggested this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128498

And this PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703026

Considering i'd like to make a few upgrades eventually.

 

[aphelion02]

About the motherboard, I usually like Gigabyte Boards, and in fact I have a slightly better version of the mobo your buddy suggested. However, I suggest that you steer clear of them this round. There are weird reboot cycle issues (come and goes, from what I find out its not so easy to fix), and Gigabyte hasn't implemented full UEFI like the other vendors. Asrock has really stepped up their game lately, and they seem to be the most issue free of all the mobos for lga 1155 so far. You can't go wrong with them.

As for a PSU, you don't need more than 520W for a single GPU system. The PSU I posted is from a very reputable vendor and a steal for the price.

 

[Slugbait]

Aphelion's build is fine. I'm especially impressed with the case he chose.

ASRock is a spinoff of Asus. They cater to the budget-conscious folks. Not great, but not bad, either.

The mobo your buddy suggested is probably overkill.

That PSU is not made by Seasonic. It's overpriced, and it's overkill. Get the unit Aphelion and I linked, but do it before the promo code expires.

 

[lehtv]

Gaming, you say? Might want to spend on a proper video card

2500k $220 -$15
Asrock Z68 pro3 $105
8GB G.Skill $42
Hitachi 1TB 7K1000.D $65
PCP&C 550W $75 -10% -$20 rebate
CM HAF 912/922 $60-80
DVDRW $20

That leaves you $200 for a video card. Can either spend all of that on a 560 Ti, or spend $150 on a 6870.

 

[Slugbait]

2500k $220 -$15

Please be so kind as to state that the price is $205, and then specify if the "-$15" is a coupon or rebate. Oh, and a link where we could all find a $205 2500K would be very nice of you, too...the best price I could find was at South Beach for just over $207.

PCP&C 550W $75 -10% -$20 rebate

Please tell us where you found a 550W PP&C...AFAIK, they have never sold a 550W PSU.

CM HAF 912/922 $60-80

At the 'egg, the 912 is $66, while the 922 is $96. Perhaps you could provide links.

DVDRW $20

I bought this specific drive once.

Once.

 

[lehtv]

Please be so kind as to state that the price is $205, and then specify if the "-$15" is a coupon or rebate. Oh, and a link where we could all find a $205 2500K would be very nice of you, too...the best price I could find was at South Beach for just over $207.Please tell us where you found a 550W PP&C...AFAIK, they have never sold a 550W PSU.At the 'egg, the 912 is $66, while the 922 is $96. Perhaps you could provide links.I bought this specific drive once.

Once.

Damn. Your wit truly outclasses mine!

edit: fwiw I didn't post links because I didn't bother checking prices, it's fairly accurate anyway

 

[Slugbait]

Damn. Your wit truly outclasses mine!

I refuse to get into a battle of wits with an unarmed man.

edit: fwiw I didn't post links because I didn't bother checking prices, it's fairly accurate anyway

It's not accurate at all, it's just noise. Stop it.

 

[lehtv]

It's not accurate at all, it's just noise. Stop it.

I'm not interested in your comments, and I don't take orders from you. Consider this the last time I respond to your provocation.


Re: "I'm not interested in your comments and I don't take orders from you."

These kinds of post don't belong here. If you can't even be bothered to substantiate any claims you make with links, don't expect people to believe you "just because", and maybe you can avoid posting at all.

Moderator jvroig

 

[Manny2260]

I quite honestly wouldn't call it provocation considering the fact that the info was inaccurate.

By any means, all the input is greatly appreciated.
Putting the cart together right now.

Also: Do I need an after-market cooler? I've heard the integrated ones are total junk.
And would this: be a viable replacement for the case? I'm a bit edgy about the aesthetics of the Lian Li.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119196

 

[lehtv]

And if the info is seen as inaccurate, after I already admitted I didn't check the prices as the info is fairly accurate anyway, it's appropriate to say

It's not accurate at all, it's just noise. Stop it.

Really? What world do you live in, manny? He is obviously trying to provoke. You're defending him.

I'm glad you appreciate my "inaccurate" advice.


General Hardware is more or less the "rookie" / "newbie" forum. The last thing we want are users trolling here or chasing away the newcomers.

If you can't get along with the people here, then stop posting. New member is trying to be polite, but you can't even return the favor. Stop being so abrasive.

Moderator jvroig

 

[Slugbait]

Consider this the last time I respond to your provocation.

You have made the critical error of believing that I'm trying to provoke you.

Let's assume that three-post Manny (or any other new forum member) hasn't lurked around here before, and does not know who you are.

I let them know who you are.


This is a thread derail and unacceptable. If you have beef with any members, you know the venue for that is in PM, not in public threads for all of us to see. We don't need Facebook-drama in the threads.

Moderator jvroig

 

[Slugbait]

Also: Do I need an after-market cooler? I've heard the integrated ones are total junk.

Intel has improved with their stock HSFs since the old Pentium days, especially in the noise dept. If you are not overclocking, they do just fine.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Apparently This is the latest king of the hill using a 1Tb dense single platter.

 

[Manny2260]

Alright, sounds good. Many thanks.
Any thoughts on the case?
And I had looked at that one prior. If I get more positive input on it, I wouldnt have an issue with swapping them.

On a secondary note, I fail to see the supposed provocation nor the purpose of taking it to heart. Internet arguments and expositions on e-testosterone don't end in much but admin warnings and the like. Relax, bud.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150521

Vs

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121418
?

Also, will the PSU supply enough for the 3 LED fans inside plus the aforementioned GPU?

 

[Slugbait]

Consider this the last time I respond to your provocation.

And yet, you called me out via PM. Your word means shit. I keep my word:

How cowardly.

He don't know me very well, DO he?

Two days ago you posted a parts list for another new forum member that made absolutely no sense. Then you argued with seasoned forum members when they politely pointed out the common practices we use around here, stating specifically, "Tax is a lot more significant factor than shipping"

There are two glaring problems with your theory:
1) Your $40 case, for example, required $10 s/h, which adds 25% of the cost of the case. Name a single state in the U.S. that charges 25% sales tax. Wait, I'll make it easier on you: name a single state that charges 11% sales tax.
2) There are 47 states in the U.S. that do not require sales tax on purchases from Newegg...and this is common across all of ecommerce.

Tax is a lot more significant factor than shipping? In a few cases, tax doesn't even come close...in most cases, it's not a factor at all.

Then you come into this thread and post a list without links at all. You add a bogus -15 after the proc price, you give wildly under-estimated costs for the cases, and you suggest a PSU that doesn't even exist.

You're wasting board space.

 

[krnmastersgt]

I live in one of the unfortunate states that does have tax from Newegg purchases

Is it really only 3 states that pay tax on Newegg purchases? I thought the CA warehouse serviced the western half of the US and every purchase that comes from this warehouse = taxed I feel like I got the really short end of the stick if its only 3 states >_>

That aside, I'm glad that most of the seasoned members still go about their way of checking of the "cheaper" part + shipping is actually more expensive, most people seem to take the quick way out of whatever comes up as cheapest on the list.

And to manny, I'd go with the XFX offering just because of how the heat will be moved (outside), the Asus card may cool better but it'll heat up the inside of your case a lot faster so unless you have a torrent of air moving through it, it'll actually perform hotter than the XFX. Also XFX has a nice warranty system, or did last I checked.

And case fans, LED lit or otherwise don't add too much to the overall power draw of a system, and a 550w (thats the last mention of a PSU I see) should be more than enough for a single GPU system.

 

[Manny2260]

Sounds good.
Many thanks to those who didnt troll my thread, attempting to turn this into a childish competition of ePeen sizes.
Calling out helpful members of this board when your info is proved to be inaccurate isn't at all flattering.

If you guys have any recommendations on anything, please let me know.
Im likely to order all of this within the next few hours, but if quick enough ill be able to change my order.

Again, many thanks for the input to the helpful, particularly to you, Slugbait. Thanks bud.

Also, just found this while browsing. Not a big difference, but seems to be a similar product for $10 off.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428

Would it be the same as the one I intend to use?

 

[ItsAlive]

If you plan on using a credit card to order you can try price matching the i5 price from Microcenter $179.99 and order from NCIX.com depending on what city/state/country you live in you could save up to $25 on it when compared to Newegg's price. I just did this yesterday and the pricematch was approved within the day.