Building new pc

Thanks2C

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I'm building a new PC, and I need to keep it around $450. I already have a CDROM + Floppy. This was what I was thinking:

AMD 1500+/266 FSB Athlon XP PROCESSOR CPU - RETAIL - $110 @ Mwave
SOYO K7ADA ALI MAGIK 1 CHIPSET ULTRA ATA100 ATX FORM FACTOR (onboard audio/lan) - $73.42 @ Mwave
CODEGEN 6044L-8 (BEIGE PANEL/BLUE TRIM) MIDDLE TOWER W/350W - $43 @ Mwave
IBM 40GB ULTRA-ATA/100 IC35L040AVER07/PN#07N6654 7200RPM - $77 @ Mwave
VISIONTEK XTASY GEFORCE4 MX420 64MB AGP NVIDIA - $101 @ Mwave
KINGSTON KVR266X64C25/256 256MB 32x64 PC2100 DDR RAM - $65 @ Mwave
2 x THERMALTAKE SMART FAN 80mm BALL BEARING FAN FOR CASE W/3 & 4PIN CONNECTOR - $10/each @ Mwave
Total: $489.42

Any suggestions? Changes?
 

Derango

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I'd avoid the IBM hard drive. Try a Westren Digital instead. IBM is currently getting out of the hard drive market. Also, many people (including myself) have experienced reliablitiy issues with their recent drives.

The GeForce 4MX is slower than a GeForce 3, IIRC. You might want to look at a GF3 instead, the Ti200 is a very good card for the money.

Other than that, it looks good
 

Thanks2C

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AMD Duron 1.3GHZ Socket A PGA Processor - $80 @ Newegg
SOYO K7ADA ALI MAGIK 1 CHIPSET ULTRA ATA100 ATX FORM FACTOR (onboard audio/lan) - $73.42 @ Mwave
CODEGEN 6044L-8 (BEIGE PANEL/BLUE TRIM) MIDDLE TOWER W/350W - $43 @ Mwave
IBM 40GB ULTRA-ATA/100 IC35L040AVER07/PN#07N6654 7200RPM - $77 @ Mwave
GAINWARD/CARDEXPERT GeForce 3 Ti200 128MB - $150 @ Newegg
KINGSTON KVR266X64C25/256 256MB 32x64 PC2100 DDR RAM - $65 @ Mwave
2 x THERMALTAKE SMART FAN 80mm BALL BEARING FAN FOR CASE W/3 & 4PIN CONNECTOR - $10/each @ Mwave
Total: $478.42

I've had plenty of IBMs and never had a problem. I replaced the Athlon with a Duron and took out the cooling fans because the Duron runs cooler. I also replaced the video card with the GeForced 3 Ti200 128MB with the money I saved from the processor and the cooling fans. How's that?
 

Derango

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I'm still going to urge you to reconsider the IBM decision...but if you're set on it, at the very least make frequent backups. Some people have been lucky though.

Other than that, looks good. Anyone else have any thoughts? I don't want to be the only one reccomending this :)
 

MistaTastyCakes

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I'd avoid the Duron and go for an XP, myself, even if it does cost a little more you'll get better speed from it and it'll be that much more future proof. I'd ditch the $10 fans and go to bgmicro.com and get some Panaflos for a couple bucks each.

I've heard about some IBM reliability issues blah blah blah too, so, ya might wanna take that into consideration. Maxtor makes good drives, IMO.

As for the mobo, I'm not sure which revision of the ALi chipset that one uses, but unless it's the same one as in the IWill XP333, it's not gonna be a very good performer. For 10 bucks more yyou can pick up an Epox 8K7A or for $20 more, which I'd recommend, you could get an Epox 8KHA+.

Never seen that case before or heard of Codegen. I'd reocmmend Chenming, Antec, or Enlight (if you wanna save some cash and get a good budget case), myself.

Sorry if I kinda ripped it apart.. but you asked for an opinion, sooo.. :)
 

microAmp

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You should really, stay away from the IBM HDD's, as far as your video card just get the 64 MB version instead of the 128 MB version, unless they are a few $$ difference. The perforamce difference with currents games isn't worth it.
 

Daovonnaex

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IBM drives aren't dangerous at all, you merely need a well-ventilated case. I had a Deskstar 75GXP for some time with no problems at all (I now use a Fujitsu MAM RAID array). I urge you to reconsider the GeForce 4 MX 420--it's a terrible performer. A Radeon 7500 can be had for about $60, and leaves it in the dust. The GeForce 3 Ti200 can be had for about $105, and demolishes it. The Radeon 8500 can now be had for about $108, and is one of the highest performing cards available.
 

Mem

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<< IBM 40GB ULTRA-ATA/100 IC35L040AVER07/PN#07N6654 7200RPM - $77 @ Mwave >>



I would replace that with a Maxtor D740X 40GB ATA-133 HD,reliability with IBM`s lately has been well not good in general,however you may be lucky and it`s your money your choice.


:)
 

MrCodeDude

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If you don't plan on overclocking, save yourself ~$25 and get the ECS K7S5A mobo.. I'm running an XP 1800+ off it right now, runs great :)
-- mrcodedude
 

sniperruff

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go to pricewatch.com and look for a 60gig maxtor 5400rpm if you're not concerned with speed...
THEY ARE $68 FOR A 60 GIG DRIVE!

and if THAT many computer geniuses =P say stay away from IBM... you better do...
doesn't that many negative opinions about IBM shake your confidence about IBM one bit?
 

DT4K

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Here are my suggestions. Some of these mean spending a little more money, but I think it's worth it. Heck, have a garage sale, or sell some old CD's you don't listen to anymore.

CPU - Stick with an XP. You can get the XP 1700+ retail for $109 at newegg.com. You will get much higher performance for only a few bucks more.

Mobo - Look at all the reviews. At least this one wasn't impressed with the Soyo you mentioned. There are lots of good low priced boards. Personally, I can recommend the Epox 8kha+. I love mine. I don't know much about the newer KT333 boards, but some benches have shown almost no performance advantage over the KT266A. I would NOT get an ECS board as someone mentioned. There have been a ton of problems with them. Yes, I know, lots of people have them and they work fine, but lots of people get them and have major headaches. I bought one and it worked, but I had constant minor issues that became very annoying. I replaced mine with the Epox 8kha+ and it runs like a dream. No problems at all.

Case - I am not familiar with that one, but it seems like a good price for a budget case. There is a lot of talk about the importance of getting quality power supply units. You might look into what PSU is in that case. I got an Enlight 7237 w/ 300W Enlight PSU from newegg for like $46 from newegg and it has served me well.

Hard Drive - I agree with others that you should avoid the IBM drives. It's not good when a company's official specs for the drive tell you not to run it more than a certain number of hours a month. I would look at the WD, Maxtor, or Seagate. And I would not get a 5400rpm unless you really have to get more space for the same price and don't care if it's slooow.

Video Card - Good choice on the Gainward GF3 Ti200 Golden Sample from newegg.com, but get the 64MB version. Benchmarks show very little difference in most of todays games and you save $25. That's the card I got and I love it. It comes setup to run in Enhanced mode which basically means it's overclocked by the manufacturer. So you get added speed, the full warranty, and a guarantee that it will run at that speed. Games in the future may benefit from that extra memory, but by then, you will be upgrading to a Geforce 5 or whatever they call their next card. Toms hardware has a great benchmark comparison of a whole bunch of cards right here. You can see that the 128MB card is barely ahead of the 64. The Radeon 8500 is also a very fast card at a good price, but I haven't used one so I can't comment too much on it.

RAM - Good choice. Kingston makes reliable ram at a good price. If you think you might want to overclock at some point, you may want to look at Crucial, Mushkin, Corsair, or Kingmax.

Fans - seems spendy. you could probably save a few bucks. But if you are concerned about noise, make sure you get quiet case fans.

Good luck and have some fun.