Building new herd member today :)

[SilverBack]

Ok here's the "pre" scoop
I picked up a AXIA 1333 MHz cpu It was tested at the shop at 1500 MHz
The chip specifics:
A1333AMS3C
AXIA0109MPMW
K0051120881

So it "IS" a AXIA cpu.
I was fortunate enough to have just recently been able to purchase the new "Silver Artic 2". My local supplier is now an authorized reseller. He also has the Artic "goop" adhesive in stock for bonding heatsinks to memory or other hard to attach places. I'll try that later.
I'm using a PAL 6035 with a "Black Delta" fan for cooling.

I'm using a mid tower case with a 300W power supply, provided by www.americanmicro.com


System as follows:
TBird 1333 AXIA cpu
MSI K7T266 Pro motherboard using the new VIA KT266 DDR chipset.
256 mb Crucial PC2100 ram
Sound Blaster Live Value
CL Geforce 2 ULtra 270/500
Western Digital 40 gig ATA100 7200 rpm 2mb cache hard drive
52x Asus CD-ROM
TEAC 3.5 floppy drive

What's important here is the use of the new VIA KT266 DDR chipset.
I hope it's killer!!!!

 

[LeBlatt]

Nice weapon u got there. I mean, to play CS

 

[BadThad]

FYI - I just attended an AMD seminar yesterday. AMD does NOT recommend metallic thermal pastes. They told us you MUST use a thermal pad for the high freq cpu's.

Just trying to help you out bro.

 

[SilverBack]

I think that's bunk BadThad. ( Lame excuse for AMD to sell thier "boxed" cheap HSF's )

I can't even come up with a reasonable reason they would say that.
I already have a 1.5 GHz TBird in this machine. Using an identical setup to the above for cooling.
The cpu s running at 93 degrees F.

 

[NesuD]

Hey silverback We're almost family now. Looks like our chips are 1st cousins
check out th numbers on mine

A1333AMS3C
AXIA0109MPMW
K0054701762

That is definately a good batch of chips I have had this one running at 1533 solid unfortunately it started heating up something terrible so I had to put it down to 1400 until my new swiftech heatsink arrives

 

[Sukhoi]

Rockin' machine!

 

[JonB]

NesuD, sorry you "had to put it down"

I've had to do that some of my pets when they were sick, and it is very traumatic. My sympathies.

 

[ElFenix]

hey can somebody benchmark using TLC's standard unit? i'm interested to know what times that a K7T266 can knock out and if DDR is worth the extra cost to me (already have 256 meg pc133 that i'd like to use)

 

[Shuxclams]

Nesus, Was that running 11.5x133=1533?








SHUX

 

[Assimilator1]

SB
you gonna be runnin SETI on that DDR RAM monster? .I would be interested to see the times on that.

 

[efun]

Nice box man... im personally currently shooting for a 1.2 gig system... but that all depends on the insurance check hehehe...

 

[SilverBack]

Yup seti aon all my boxes right now.
The motherboard should be here almost anytime

 

[SilverBack]

NesuD
They might be from the same wafer!

 

[NesuD]

yea Shux that was 11.5x133 when i saw the temps i didn't even try any other bus speeds. Currently I am running it at 10x140=1400 with the voltage down at 1.70. My max temp running rc5 goes to about 57c with these settings. It will idle at around 48c-49c. That is using a volcano 2 hsf. there is no way this unit will adequately cool at 1.5 at least not cool enough for my tastes. Just waiting on that mc370 unit and my delta38 to arrive to boost it back up.

 

[BadThad]

Silverback - No, it's definately not bunk. This seminar lasted 2 hours and was VERY technical. It was run by John Staggs from AMD who DEFINATELY knows what he's talking about. According to him, AMD does not like selling cooling fans, they don't want to be in that business. He listed several brands of h/s fans and discussed design and air flow dynamics....on a very technical level. While I don't recall every detail of what he said, I did walk away knowing thermal compound is NOT the way to go with Athlon cpu's.

Now, LOL, no one flame me. I'm sure there is plenty of you using compound and it works perfectly fine. I'm just saying, based on technical evidence shown to me directly from AMD research labs, it's not good. Quote "AMD does not recommend metallic thermal greases on our CPU's."

 

[Sukhoi]

What metal does AMD use for the core cover? Maybe it doesn't have good thermal transfer properties with other metals?

 

[toph99]

badthad, i think that AMD states that because anyone can use a thermal pad, using thermal compound(properly) is trickier. This means that they won't have anyone come to them with a fried cpu saying "well you said that thermal compound was ok" if they happen to put too much/little. a pad is always constant

just me theory

 

[CurtOien]

SilverBack,
Let us know how the VIA KT266 DDR chipset works out.

badthad,
Did he give a reason for preferring the pads?

 

[JimMc]

I'm with toph, while thermal pads are OK at heat transfer, I suspect AMD recommends those is to cut down on warranty claims from crushed cores or fried cores when a HS/F is improperly applied. If you know what you're doing, a quality thermal paste is probably the way to go for maximum cooling, but a thermal pad is harder to screw up if you're worried about a user base in the tens of thousands, many of whom screw the pooch and want AMD to warranty their goofs.

 

[Sloth]

As I read it (so take it as heavily biased there) they do not recommend METALIC thermal compounds. There are others out there that are not metalic based.

What is the electrical conductance of artic silver, or other metalic compounds compared to non-metalic ones? I have seen ones where there is too much paste on there and it has run down off the core and onto the bridges. Could be they are saying go with the pad so you do not short out something you should not.


S.

 

[Assimilator1]

As long as you don't over do it with the artic Silver it is the best heat transfer compound ,but if you do over do it it can short out connections!

 

[sduguid]

>As long as you don't over do it with the artic Silver it is the best heat transfer >compound ,but if you do over do it it can short out connections!

That is probably precisely what they are trying to avoid. I have seen more than one post in CPU/Overclocking forums from people who Spread the Arctic Silver not only on the core but also on the rest of the CPU (including the bridges!)

As well, applying too much can actually insulate the core as opposed to cooling so they likely don't want that to happen either...

 

[lane42]

SB, That thing is going to fly. Depending on your mem timings and your cas settings at 1.5 @ cas 2 at fast timings or higher i'll guess 4.5 to 4.6 average times.
Your running the best ram (right now) in pc2100-crucial.
Ia'm using the iwill ka266, Great running board so far but only a 146 fsb max. Hope to run some bench's over the weekend.