Building a gaming comp - need advice

[raGe93]

EDIT EDIT

1. gaming and playing all games maxed out
2. under $1100
3. US and buying from US
4. no preferred brands just nothing that is way too expensive
5. maybe use the speakers i have now but nothing else
6. yes i have
7. I'm a noob when it comes to overclocking but i could learn how to do it
8. 1920 x 1080
9. when i get the parts

here are the new edited parts:

Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

LITE-ON Black 22X DVD+R (combo with case) $48.98

CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" (combo with Power Supply) $144.98

AMD Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 3.0GHz

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) (combo with CPU) $206.98

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

ASRock 870 EXTREME3 AM3 AMD 870 (combo with OS) $179.98

ASUS VH232H Glossy Black 23" 5ms $179.99

[FONT=&quot]Galaxy GeForce GTX 470 Graphics Card $269.99 w/out coupon on tigerdirect.com[/FONT]

Gigabyte Mouse and Keyboard (combo) $28.98

Total comes out to $1,059.88 (all parts from newegg.com except GPU)

 

[Sp12]

[FONT=&quot]AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 AMD 790X ATX AMD[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 5770 1GB (combo deal with mobo and cpu) $413.97[/FONT]

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I'm meh on this entire combo. The 1055t is a much better chip than the 965 for 20$ more, while the 955 is 20$ cheaper but close to the 965. Mobo is overkill, but last gen. GPU is fine. Ga-870a is a good mobo, as is the MSI 870a-G55.

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PQI TURBO 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) $75.99

DDR2? Not for a new build. G.skill 1.5 volt 1600 speed DDR3 is ~5$ more expensive.

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3750528AS 750GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s $69.99

Bad rap on stability, bad price/performance when a Samsung F3 is a terabyte, a better drive, and only 5$ more expensive.

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V $109.99

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Overkill, but not a very nice PSU for 100$. Either save money or go for a higher efficiency/modular one.
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Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound Card $49.99

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Why? Unnecessary if you choose a mobo with good integrated.

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SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner Black SATA $19.99

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit $99.99

Excellent, but check for a combo deal with either of those.

Case - Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm Fan, 1x Rear 120mm Fan, option Fans-2x Side 120mm Fan $39.99

Personal choice?

LG W2053TP-PF Black 20" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 DC 70000:1 $139.99

Microsoft Natural Keyboard Elite & Microsoft Explorer Mouse $64.98

I'm kinda meh on that, but CBA to google them. I advise against wireless peripherals as they have higher latency, need batteries, and can have connectivity issues. Monitor is TN, but for the price it's ok.

 

[raGe93]

the case was a personal choice yes and i chose that power supply because im probably getting crossfire down the road and will that mobo that you recommended support crossfire? and on the hard drive im changing it to the one you recommended. thanks for the help though

 

[mfenn]

DANGER! What you have listed WILL NOT work! The M4A79XTD EVO is a DDR3 motherboard while you have DDR2 RAM.

I agree with Sp12 that that combo seems pretty high for what you get. It's only $35 off a pretty expensive mobo and CPU. You'll be much better off forgetting about Crossfire.

If we assume you start off +35 because of the combo discount:
Swap the CPU to a 945 (-40) -5
Swap the mobo to a M4A77TD + Win7 HP combo (-44) -49
Swap the RAM for this G.Skill DDR3 (+6) -43
Swap the PSU to a 650TX (-20) -63
Dump the sound card (-50) -113
Swap the GPU for a GTX 470 (+135) +22

For $20 more, you can get a card with performance that's pretty much equal to Crossfire 5770s right now.

 

[jchu14]

Follow what mfenn says, then get this Samsung F3 1TB and 650TX combo to save $15 compared to the 650tx+seagate hdd. Also get the Rosewill Challenger and Liteon burner combo to save another $10. Now your build is less expensive than what you started with!

 

[Athadeus]

That's a nice combo. As cheap as the PSU with coupon code + when the HDD was $60 on shellshocker!

 

[raGe93]

alright i updated the post i just need some help on if that combo of the monitor and gpu is good

 

[mfenn]

alright i updated the post i just need some help on if that combo of the monitor and gpu is good

Do NOT buy a GTX 465. It is a cut-down placeholder card that Nvidia rushed out while waiting for the GTX 460 to be ready. It is hotter, louder, and slower than a GTX 460. Either get the GTX 470 that I originally recommended, or get a 1GB GTX 460 if you want to spend a little less.

As for the monitor, 21.5" s a bit small for 1080P in my opinion. This ASUS is cheaper (AR) and bigger.

 

[raGe93]

okay i was just doing that one because it was the best combo deal but i was looking at some benchmarks and wut about this HIS iCooler V Radeon HD 5830 1GB 256-bit GDDR5?
or should i stick with nvidia?
http://detonator.dynamitedata.com/c...com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161327

 

[Sp12]

Save 30$ more on the 470, do not buy the 5830 as it's in the same boat as the 465.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2096749

 

[mfenn]

okay i was just doing that one because it was the best combo deal but i was looking at some benchmarks and wut about this HIS iCooler V Radeon HD 5830 1GB 256-bit GDDR5?
or should i stick with nvidia?

You really like those power-hungry, loud, cut-down cards, don't you?

The 5830 is much slower than the GTX 470, and with Sp12's deal, it's even more of a no-brainer.

 

[raGe93]

Lol well I don't know much when it comes to making a computer that's why I came here and asked but i might have to get the 460 because I don't have a lot of money :/

 

[mfenn]

Lol well I don't know much when it comes to making a computer that's why I came here and asked but i might have to get the 460 because I don't have a lot of money :/

With Sp12's hot deal, the 470 is only $10 more than a 460.

 

[raGe93]

Oh sorry I wasn't paying attention lol but okay then that'll be good but I got one last question is intel or amd better for gaming?

 

[mfenn]

Oh sorry I wasn't paying attention lol but okay then that'll be good but I got one last question is intel or amd better for gaming?

Considering only performance? Intel
When you throw a limited budget into the mix? AMD

 

[Davidh373]

What mfenn said, It looks like between everyone else you have your parts figured out a little better. I'll just pop in to ask who is building this for you if you aren't experienced? You're going to have someone to help right? I'm sorry if I seem over-worried, but if this is your first go at things you probably have someone knowledgeable help. I would have been completely lost on my first build if I was on my own.

 

[raGe93]

My dad will be helping me and i have a step by step instruction manual online and a few vidoes

 

[Davidh373]

My dad will be helping me and i have a step by step instruction manual online and a few vidoes

Has your dad done it before? It's good to have an idea what you're doing but a lot of times parts are somewhat different and online tutorials only get you so far. If your dad hasn't, you may have a friend who's done it before? Ordering the right parts is about 75 percent of the experience, but the other 25 percent can get difficult.

 

[raGe93]

Yeah he has done it before he took apart my old one and put it back together but i could still find a friend who has done it before too so I have my dad and a friend

 

[Davidh373]

Alright, just making sure. I just wanted to make sure you weren't going to end up with all these parts and not know where to start.

 

[raGe93]

Well thanks all you guys for your help I would've been lost if I didn't come here lol

 

[Davidh373]

You want to post your final build list for a check?

 

[mfenn]

Well thanks all you guys for your help I would've been lost if I didn't come here lol

No problem, glad to help.

 

[raGe93]

You want to post your final build list for a check?

Alright i did

 

[Davidh373]

Did you by any chance see this combo? It looks like it will cost a few dollars more total but it looks awesome and it's still under budget. (EDIT) from what I can see anyway.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboB...t=Combo.472801