Building a budget PC

Aisengard

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So I'm going to be building my parents a new PC after 7 years of dealing with this Dell desktop. 1.8 GHz P4 (pre-northwood), 512MB RDRAM, GeForce 3 Ti200, lots of old crap.

EDIT: Forgot the prerequisite stuff:

1. What YOUR PC will be used for. That means what types of tasks you'll be performing.
really all the basic stuff, word processing, some database stuff, my sister likes to play some non-demanding games on it

2. What YOUR budget is. A price range is acceptable as long as it's not more than a 20% spread

probably $700, $800 is the limit including the monitor

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.

USA

4. IF YOU have a brand preference. That means, are you an Intel-Fanboy, AMD-Fanboy, ATI-Fanboy, nVidia-Fanboy, Seagate-Fanboy, WD-Fanboy, etc, etc, etc, you get the picture.

I like Intel.

5. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.

Nope, brand new

6. IF YOU have searched and/or read similar threads.

Er, not really

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.

If I can do a safe and stable overclock, I'll do it

8. WHEN do you plan to build it?

pretty darn soon, this month probably

So, I figure I'll ask you guys for help building a nice budget PC that will last a while. Here's what I figure:

CPU: one of the Intel E2000s
Motherboard: nothing fancy at all, just something that will be reliable and work
Case+PS: again nothing fancy, but I don't want a plastic piece of crap
Video Card: don't want on-board graphics, but something cheap that will play, say, Starcraft 2
RAM: 2X1GB, or 2X2GB? I figure you can never have enough, but is 4GB overdoing it?
Monitor: Now this I want to be kinf nice, maybe a 19 inch LCD
Hard Drive: whatever is the best deal at the time
DVD Burner: don't know anything about today's burners, just something that will work

So, if someone wants to fill in some of the blanks, that would help me out greatly.
 

chinaman1472

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Dell would give you the best deal, but if you're adamant about building your own:

Intel E2*** CPU - 70ish
Gigabyte P35-DS3L - 90ish
Antec Sonata III - 120ish (sometimes 100 at buy.com)
9600GT or 8800GT - 150-180ish
4GB RAM - 80
WD 640GB - 110ish
DVD Burner - 30ish
Vista 64-bit - 100ish
around 720-750 with no monitor. You might not need an OS, save 20-30 on and get a smaller hard drive, and save some cash if you get 2GB of memory. You could pick out a differen case/psu for cheaper as well.
 

Aisengard

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We don't want another Dell.

Thanks, Chinaman. We don't need an OS, or a humongous hard drive. Does that motherboard enable overclocking? Also, I've heard about the Sonata III, but some people don't like it, too noisy. Any other suggestions for a case? Wasn't there a couple of Antec cases that included Earthwatts Power Supplies? Obviously I would only really need like a 400W one.
 

happy medium

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I give you the specs for my next budget gaming build without the fancy video card.

Case..Coolmaster Centuriion 5- 73.00$ shipped.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16811119068

Motherboard.. Gigabyte p35 - 97.00$ shipped
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16813128059

cpu.. e2180 Allendale 2.0 - 70.00$ shipped
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16819116052

Ram.. G.Skill (2x1) ddr2 800 - 49.00$ shipped
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...20231098&nm_mc=OTC-RSS

Videocard...8600gt 256mb - 70.00$ shipped
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16814500001

Samsung dvd combo drive - 31.00$ shipped
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16827151154

Harddrive.. Seagate Barracuda 250gb - -60.00$ shipped
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16822148261

power supply.. Antec Earthwatts 430 watt - 70.00$ shipped
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16817371006

Monitor.. 19inch 5ms Hanns G (good reviews cheap) - 192.00$ shipped
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16824254005

Keyboard & mouse ..Microsoft combo - 30.00$ shipped
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16823109156

Thats a real good quality build that will overclock to 2.8ghz easy for 782.00$ shipped!


 

chinaman1472

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Originally posted by: Aisengard
We don't want another Dell.

Thanks, Chinaman. We don't need an OS, or a humongous hard drive. Does that motherboard enable overclocking? Also, I've heard about the Sonata III, but some people don't like it, too noisy. Any other suggestions for a case? Wasn't there a couple of Antec cases that included Earthwatts Power Supplies? Obviously I would only really need like a 400W one.

about $60-70 for a 250GB. I guess you can cut back there. -$100 for the OS
That board is a solid overclocker.
You'll have to check other antec cases/psu combos.
really though, you might be able to get away with your system at around $600 using the sonata III.

Overall, a dell is still a better deal, epsecially when you consider a 22" monitor runs $210-250.
 

Roguestar

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Originally posted by: JWade
the new Dell's arent like the ones from 7 years ago, they have come along way since then.

Plus you get monitor, legal OS and warranty!
 

Winterpool

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Another Dell ++.

I hate to say it, but for their needs, it really does seem the best option, at the best price. The main reason I plump for this alternative: you're quite likely to get a very good deal on an included LCD monitor. It's not unusual to see 20-inch or more widescreen displays for a very low price. I suspect a decent monitor will make more difference to most users than a few more MHz or MB.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: Roguestar
Buy another Dell.

overclocked and unstable is fine for your own pc. for family pc, leave it be.
dell has come a decent way, and benefit of overclocking these days is far less for most people. the chips are so fast to begin with. plus, if you haven't built a computer in 7 years..thats just asking for a headache. plus you get a legit vista install.
 

Zap

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Originally posted by: Roguestar
Buy another Dell.

I've found myself agreeing with this more and more, for budget builds.

Vostro 200 mini tower (not slim) or 400 would be great for that price range. In the past even for the price I'd have recommended building your own, but these Vostros are really, really nice systems.
 

JWade

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www.heatware.com
you can snag from delloutlet an inspiron 530 with a e2160, dvd drive, 160gb hard drive, 1gb of ram for as low as 209 before shipping I have seen. Plenty of left over money for more ram and a monitor. Refurbs come with the same warranty as new ones do. Have owned MANY refurbs from Dell, never had a problem with any of them
 

gplracer

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GIGABYTE GA-73VM-S2 LGA 775 NVIDIA GeForce 7050/nForce 610i Micro ATX Intel Motherboard $62

Lite On DVD Writer $24
Intel 2180 $79
LIAN LI PC-A05B Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $89
WD 500gb SATA HD $100
2 gigs of G.Skill ram DDR2 800 $45

Use the onboard audio and video unless you want something better. Overclocked with the stock heatsink this should do 2.5ghz-2.6ghz with ease and no voltage increase.

 

lxskllr

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I'll throw in another vote for Dell. I really like their machines, and they're my first pick for a low-mid range system. The only caveat I would give, is to make sure you get a mid-full tower model. I don't know if they still make those compact systems, but if they do, avoid like the plague. Their too small to expand, and they run very hot. The larger cased towers are fine though.
 

Zap

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Originally posted by: gplracer
Overclocked with the stock heatsink this should do 2.5ghz-2.6ghz with ease and no voltage increase.

The Vostros are easy to OC with the BSEL mod. I got a Celeron 420 1.6GHz to 2.66GHz. E2160 should be an easy 2.4GHz. E2180 at 2.66GHz.

Originally posted by: lxskllr
Dell... The only caveat I would give, is to make sure you get a mid-full tower model. I don't know if they still make those compact systems, but if they do, avoid like the plague. Their too small to expand, and they run very hot. The larger cased towers are fine though.

They still do make SFF systems. The Vostro units are the Vostro 200 Slim. There is a Vostro 200 mini tower which is a standard micro ATX tower using a 92mm exhaust fan and a standard ATX PSU. Those are great budget systems.
 

lxskllr

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Originally posted by: Zap
There is a Vostro 200 mini tower which is a standard micro ATX tower using a 92mm exhaust fan and a standard ATX PSU. Those are great budget systems.

I was just looking at those on their site, and they look like sweet little machines. $399 shipped with a 19" monitor, you can't beat that. Add another $250 or so of after market upgrades, and you'd have a nice budget gaming system.
 

Bonesdad

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jeez, the guy wants to build a PC for his 'rents...give him some advice to do so...yah, Dell or HP is probably the cheapest way to go, but maybe he just wants to do something for his folks.

OP, Happy Mediums setup looks good to me!