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Build advice needed: all-purpose development non-gaming system

edw

Junior Member
Hello,

I'm looking for advice on building a very specific system.

First of all, I'll be running Ubuntu Linux as the main operating system. I'll also be running various operating systems including Windows in virtual machines using VirtualBox. The tasks I'll be doing include software development, 3D video and sound editing, watching movies, and general e-mail and browsing. I may also use the system as a media server on my home network. I won't be playing the latest games, so I don't require a late generation graphics card. However, I will be running a dual monitor setup.

The specific features/qualities of the system I'm looking in this build:

The hardware must be completely compatible with Linux.

I need an ultra-stable system as opposed to the fastest system. The system I use right now still crashes and/or freezes once every couple of weeks or so, which is not a huge problem; however, I'd prefer an uptime measured in months if possible.

I'd like an as small and quiet a system as reasonably possible. Aesthetically, I'm looking for a fairly stylish looking system (see case comments below).

Price is not a huge factor, since I'm specifically not looking for the fastest CPU or graphics card. I realize that I'll be spending a bit more on the motherboard and RAM because of my requirements as set out below.

The hardware should be reasonably available in Canada. I do my shopping online mostly at NCIX, Newegg and Tigerdirect are fine as well.

My timeline for getting this sytem is not very pressing. I'm willing to wait a few months for more mature hardware recommendations.

As for the specific components, my requirements and thoughts are as follows:

Case
The case I'm most interested in is the Lian-Li PC-Q11 Mini-ITX case. I realize that this is probably going to be a limiting feature in choosing many of the components given the small form factor. If the other features cannot be fulfilled given this case, I'm open to other suggestions, though I'd still like a case that's somewhat smaller and more stylish than your regular tower case.

Power Supply
I expect to be running a fairly low power system, so I think a 400-500W power supply should be more than sufficient for my needs. The main qualities I'm looking for here are stability and near-silence.

Motherboard
Given the case size, there's not a lot of choice in terms of motherboards. It's even more limited given that I want a motherboard that supports ECC RAM. Based on my research, most ECC RAM motherboards are server motherboards. I also require a motherboard with a fairly configurable BIOS. I plan to underclock the processor to run it at a lower temperature and hence a lower (quieter) fan speed. I'm open to either an Intel or AMD-based system.

RAM
As I stated above, I'm looking at building a system using ECC RAM. Since I'll be running several virtual machines at the same time, and given that RAM prices are cheaper than they've ever been, I'm looking at somewhere between 12-24 GB of RAM.

Processor
I'm not attached to either Intel or AMD. I'd like a recommendation on a low power version of a middle of the road processor from either manufacturer.

Processor Cooler
I'd like to get an ultra-quiet aftermarket CPU cooler. I understand that there are sort of liquid-cooling (fanless or low speed fan?) systems available.

Video Card
I'll be running a dual 24-inch monitor setup at at least 1920x1200 resolution each screen. Though I won't be doing gaming, I will be running a 3d desktop (Compiz Fusion). The video card chipset must be one that's well supported in Linux. I've had much better luck in the past with Nvidia graphics cards, and from my research there are other developments (e.g. VDPAU) which would make it more appropriate for my system. By the way, the system I'm using right now runs two monitors beautifully using a fairly old graphics card (GeForce 8800). The tricky part is I want a passively-cooled (fanless) dual output video card. I'm more partial to Displayport or HDMI as the output, but DVI is fine if that's the only option.

Hard Drives
I'm planning on getting a small (40-80 GB) solid-state drive to use as a boot drive, and a regular hard drive for storage (1.5 TB+). I probably don't need any specific recommendations here but any are welcome.

Can't think of anything else at the moment, but if I do I'll add some more to this thread. Thanks for any and all suggestions!
 
For a larger case with LOTS of HDD bays (8!) i recommend the Fractal R3 it is a "silent" case and i love the look of it. The new sandy bridge CPU's run really cool. For GPU there is this fanless GTS 430.

I dont particularly think you need ECC RAM but whatever floats your boat. Is there a price range?
 
A quick survey of the ITX boards available on Newegg didn't come back with any that support ECC (Intel or AMD). It looks like you're going to have to decide which one of those you want more.
 
Thanks mfenn, from my further research you're right, what I'm looking (in terms of both type and amount of RAM) for doesn't seem to exist in the mini-ITX form factor. I guess I'd like to modify my request a bit, I'm now looking for micro-ATX boards that support ECC RAM with underclocking capabilities. Any suggestions?
 
Thanks mfenn, from my further research you're right, what I'm looking (in terms of both type and amount of RAM) for doesn't seem to exist in the mini-ITX form factor. I guess I'd like to modify my request a bit, I'm now looking for micro-ATX boards that support ECC RAM with underclocking capabilities. Any suggestions?

https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=19740307

Tell me if that looks like something that would work for you.
 

Thank you very much for the recommendations! It looks very much like what I'm looking for. Just doing a bunch of research right now just to make sure it'll work for me.

Video card looks exactly like what I need. I just found a Seasonic fanless power supply which got some good reviews:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-097-_-Product

It comes at a premium compared to the one you suggested by I think it will be worth it for me for the reduction in noise. The motherboard looks ideal for me as well, it doesn't have a very tweakable BIOS (for underclocking in my case), but is by default geared towards lower power consumption so that should be good. No big cooling fans needed!

The Fractal Design cases are very nice looking and meet my aesthetic standards, thanks for the recommendation there! I'm also looking at the Fractal Design Define Mini which is a little bit smaller than the Define R3 you suggested, and which still accommodates micro-ATX boards:

http://www.fractal-design.com/?view=product&category=2&prod=58

I'm not familiar with the RAM manufacturer (Wintec) but I assume that ECC RAM modules are made to a higher standard than your general RAM. By the way I notice there's a 1333 MHz version of the RAM you suggested at a slightly higher price:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820161382

Any comment on the tradeoffs between the higher clock speed vs. the not-as-tight CAS timings (9-9-9 vs. 7-7-7)? I think I'll go with 16GB of RAM as mfenn suggested, even with 4 or 5 virtual machines running at the same time I'll be using less than 16GB at all times.

Your suggested processor looks nice, I'm also considering going down to a slower (and unfortunately more expensive) but cooler processor like the Xeon L3406 or L3426:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Xeon_microprocessors#.22Clarkdale.22_.2832_nm.29

Thanks again for your help!
 
The increase in speed of the RAM wont do much if anything

The Fractal define Mini is nice but hard to find 😉

I dont like fanless PSU's because they throw heat into your case :O With the Fractal R3 you will already be running quietly getting a good PSU that has a fan will not make enough noise for you to hear it.

There isnt too much point in spending more on the CPU as you will get less performance your system is already going to be quiet... and there is no such thing as silent.
 
It comes at a premium compared to the one you suggested by I think it will be worth it for me for the reduction in noise. The motherboard looks ideal for me as well, it doesn't have a very tweakable BIOS (for underclocking in my case), but is by default geared towards lower power consumption so that should be good. No big cooling fans needed!
A lot of PSUs with fans aren't very loud or noticeable. While I like the idea of a fanless PSU, I absolutely wouldn't pay such a high premium for one.

Large cooling fans are what you should want. They can spin slower, but still move a decent amount of air with minimal noise.
 
A lot of PSUs with fans aren't very loud or noticeable. While I like the idea of a fanless PSU, I absolutely wouldn't pay such a high premium for one.

Large cooling fans are what you should want. They can spin slower, but still move a decent amount of air with minimal noise.

:thumbsup: The 135mm-150mm fan on an 80+ PSU is going to be spinning so slowly as to be inaudible. You'll
 
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