Budget Gaming Build under $1000

TheChaoticToast

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Hi,

I've decided to build a new budget gaming pc. I'm looking to games such as Far Cry 4, Fallout 4, Battlefield 4, The Sims 4 ( WAY TO MANY 4s), Civilization V, CS GO, Skyrim, Watch Dogs, and Batman Arkham Knight at around High Settings ( Maybe Ultra ) at more than 50 FPS. I'm buying primeraly off of NewEgg as they deliver extremely fast, and I've had some pretty great service with them. My current Cart contains the following ( Feel Free to comment, question, or rate- kinda why I need help :) ).

Case:

Cooler Master HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 - High Air Flow Mid Tower Computer Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=11-119-233


PSU:

SeaSonic S12G S12G-550 550W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Active PFC Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=17-151-136

RAM:

G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200) Intel Z170 Platform / Intel X99 Platform Desktop Memory Model F4-2400C15D-8GVR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-231-886

Motherboard:

GIGABYTE G1 Gaming GA-Z170X-Gaming 3 (rev. 1.0) LGA 1151 Intel Z170 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-128-837

-I know it has the ability to overclock, and my cpu can't support it, but it's for future proofing. Plus, It supports SLI for dual GPUS, where I would still need to update my PSU for this further down the road, but we'll just cross that bridge when we come to it.

CPU:


Intel Core i5-6500 6M Skylake Quad-Core 3.2 GHz LGA 1151 65W BX80662I56500 Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 530 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=19-117-563

GPU:

EVGA GeForce GTX 970 04G-P4-3973-KR 4GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-487-136

OS: Windows 10 (~$120)

Microsoft Windows 10 Home - Full Version (32 & 64-bit) / USB Flash Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=32-588-528


HDD: (My father owns a company which sells hard drives, servers, server parts, etc. So I can pretty much get anything... Besides SSDs
:( . He'd most likely hook me up with a seagate 1TB Drive 10k RPM






Overall, my budget is about $950 which is already met with this build, but why not...because fallout 4 right? Feel free to recommend a different part or add a part all together depending on price. I greatly appreciate your help people!


Thanks,

Eric
 

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Lifer
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Buy windows 7 for almost half the cost and get the upgrade to win 10 for free. :p
 

TheChaoticToast

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Buy windows 7 for almost half the cost and get the upgrade to win 10 for free. :p

I was planning on doing that, but I can only use the USB model, as I don't have plans one getting a optical disk. And you can't boot from a Windows 7 USB install because the chipset only supports 3.0 USB, and disable ECHI, which is needed for Windows 7 (2.0 Driver).
 
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Get an ssd no matter what even a cheap one.
If you can wait which I know can be tough this could be interesting.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2454315
 
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clamum

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Get an ssd no matter what even a cheap one.
If you can wait which I know can be tough this could be interesting.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2454315
I agree with getting an SSD. No way I'd put together a system these days without one. If you look around and/or wait for a deal, you can get one at a great price. My co-worker told me about a deal, I ended up getting a Crucial M500 960 GB SSD for $180. It's a refurb but has been running fine.
 

funboy6942

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My opinion...

CPU
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php...T4jcrYcsqVG98nle+/O4rdAOq00ysydMlddfYxHj0jRGw

Mobo....
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157479

Memory
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Venge...=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B004CRSM4I

Video Card...
http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=04G-P4-2977-RX

PSU...
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php...VE1Doau74uvfCLNkjIb3Uc8c0VWBCsbVyToMLyWrLpm9o

Now with what I just linked you to, is a better set up, IMO, which will be faster, will oc like a mother, the board will do SLI OR Crossfire, has a killer audio set up onboard so no need for audio down the line, and with your case and windows 10, it comes out to $851. WHICH, if you were to take the savings you can upgrade to a GTX980 GPU from evga from where I linked you to up above. Yes its a refurb, but it does come with a 1 year warranty and its a direct refurb from evga themself not a 3rd party so its done right.

http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=04G-P4-2981-RX

Now, THATS, a smoking fast killer system, again, IMO. and its under $1K and Under what you had going on ;)

BTW, aside of the 970 gpu, thats my set up, I run a 290x gpu, and I oc my 8350 to 4.7ghz, and it runs everything under the sun at max settings at a res of 2560x1080p.
 
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Revolution 11

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I take it you are not a Windows 10 fan, any particular reason why? I ask because I have held off on updating any of my machines so far, but was thinking of doing one soon.
I have tried the Window 10 preview and I noticed two things. First, if you are ok with the UI changes that Win 8 started, you won't mind Windows 10. For me, the Start Menu issues and the inconsistency in UI throughout the OS is irritating enough to not switch.

Second, if you are a privacy nut, like me, you don't want Windows 10's telemetry service. I understand that some of this has been backported to Win 7 though there are ways around it. :(

For everyone else, Windows 10 is fine. There is not any real performance benefit that I noticed yet, but in the future, this will change with DirectX 12.
 

funboy6942

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I run windows 10 myself and love it, but I also used a program that kills windows 10 from spying on me as well and shuts down everything that does so, so no worries for me on them spying on me at all :). I went from windows 7 to 10, and I must say I like it a ton better, IMO, I like the UI, and has more features and and stuff in it to fool around with then 7. But to each their own.
 

Newbian

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I have tried the Window 10 preview and I noticed two things. First, if you are ok with the UI changes that Win 8 started, you won't mind Windows 10. For me, the Start Menu issues and the inconsistency in UI throughout the OS is irritating enough to not switch.

Classic shell works wonders for that. ;)
 
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I run windows 10 myself and love it, but I also used a program that kills windows 10 from spying on me as well and shuts down everything that does so, so no worries for me on them spying on me at all :). I went from windows 7 to 10, and I must say I like it a ton better, IMO, I like the UI, and has more features and and stuff in it to fool around with then 7. But to each their own.

Not that I think security isn't important but what do you use for a mobile device? GPS data is far more invading to me.
 

fourdegrees11

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My opinion...

CPU
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php...T4jcrYcsqVG98nle+/O4rdAOq00ysydMlddfYxHj0jRGw

Mobo....
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157479

Memory
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Venge...=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B004CRSM4I

Video Card...
http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=04G-P4-2977-RX

PSU...
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php...VE1Doau74uvfCLNkjIb3Uc8c0VWBCsbVyToMLyWrLpm9o

Now with what I just linked you to, is a better set up, IMO, which will be faster, will oc like a mother, the board will do SLI OR Crossfire, has a killer audio set up onboard so no need for audio down the line, and with your case and windows 10, it comes out to $851. WHICH, if you were to take the savings you can upgrade to a GTX980 GPU from evga from where I linked you to up above. Yes its a refurb, but it does come with a 1 year warranty and its a direct refurb from evga themself not a 3rd party so its done right.

http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=04G-P4-2981-RX

Now, THATS, a smoking fast killer system, again, IMO. and its under $1K and Under what you had going on ;)

BTW, aside of the 970 gpu, thats my set up, I run a 290x gpu, and I oc my 8350 to 4.7ghz, and it runs everything under the sun at max settings at a res of 2560x1080p.

FX cpu's really arent a good investment these days.... This is with a 980ti.

fallout-4-cpu-benchmark-1080-u.png


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Post #2 shows a 4790k and 970 build... That 4790k can still get a 600+ mhz OC

Final-Fallout-4-Benchmarks-i7-machines.jpg
 
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RussianSensation

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Some suggestions, swap that PSU for the Seasonic 660W Platinum as they cost the same right now - $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...7151121&cm_re=seasonic-_-17-151-121-_-Product

I'd consider saving $10 on the 970 and going for the MSI Gaming one for $280. It's quieter than the EVGA version and overclocking on most 970s is just luck of the draw.

Then I would take the $10 saved on the 970 and move from 8GB DDR4 2400 to 8GB DDR4 2800.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...47&cm_re=8gb_ddr4_2800-_-20-231-947-_-Product

Fallout 4 loves faster memory speeds.
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I'll give you another direction entirely. Downgrade from an $80 PSU to the EVGA 600W Bronze for $19. That gives you a budget of $61.

At this point you can go either step up to the i5 6600K or if trying to maximize gaming performance, perhaps a $350-360 EVGA GTX980 ACX 2.0 b-stock. The downside is the GTX980 is refurbished and doesn't come with a free AAA game.
http://www.evga.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?type=8

Hopefully this gives you some options to improve your build. Personally I'd have a tough time choosing between an extremely solid PSU like the Seasonic 660W Platinum or slightly faster GPU performance. The Seasonic Platinum PSU could easily last 10 years but it just depends what your priorities are.

Don't forget about some other perks:

$15 off $15 with Chase Freedom Visa (applies to Newegg) -- just need to register and use Visa Checkout
http://slickdeals.net/f/8202575-visa-checkout-offer-chase-freedom-card-purchases-15-off-15

$25 off $200 with AMEX (Newegg) -
http://promotions.newegg.com/nepro/15-5051/index.html?icid=335712

If you utilize both of those perks, you'll have $40 extra that gets you closer to 16GB DDR4 2800-3000mhz or stepping up to an i5 6600K.
 
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MongGrel

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I'll give you another direction entirely. Downgrade from an $80 PSU to the EVGA 600W Bronze for $19. That gives you a budget of $61.

Personally, I would veer away from a $29 PSU, but that looks like a good deal on a solid one.

Maybe lower if you jump through some hoops I guess.
 
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funboy6942

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LOL, those are running at 3.4 ghz, open it up to like mine at 4.7 and it will be a different ball game Im sure of it ;)

And if you check this site out...

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/362/AMD_FX-Series_FX-8320_vs_Intel_Core_i5_i5-6500.html

And pay attention to just the graphics test out mostly, 3dmark, where he just mostly wants to play games, it kinda shows that even though the 8350 is older, its better at games, at stock, and again, if you oc it, which is silly eazy, by bumping it up to 220, it will just fly, which is what he wants. which will take it from 3.5 to 4.7, thats a 1.2ghz gain, not just 600mhz gain, provided he uses a good cooler. And Im saving him money in the process which will allow him to not use a 970, but a gtx 980, which will then make him even faster then what he picked out up above then just using a 970 with his set up he chose ;)
 

fourdegrees11

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You do realize those benchmarks I posted show a 9590 running at 4.7 ghz right?

LOL, those are running at 3.4 ghz, open it up to like mine at 4.7 and it will be a different ball game Im sure of it ;)

And if you check this site out...

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/362/AMD_FX-Series_FX-8320_vs_Intel_Core_i5_i5-6500.html

And pay attention to just the graphics test out mostly, 3dmark, where he just mostly wants to play games, it kinda shows that even though the 8350 is older, its better at games, at stock, and again, if you oc it, which is silly eazy, by bumping it up to 220, it will just fly, which is what he wants. which will take it from 3.5 to 4.7, thats a 1.2ghz gain, not just 600mhz gain, provided he uses a good cooler. And Im saving him money in the process which will allow him to not use a 970, but a gtx 980, which will then make him even faster then what he picked out up above then just using a 970 with his set up he chose ;)

Edit: I'll add some comments on the EVGA 600W bronze PSU since I own one. The setup in my sig has been run with Furmark cpu and gpu burner at the same time without failing... It can put out enough power for a 970 build easily.
 
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sweenish

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Unless the bottom line determines all, I would also not bother investing in an AMD CPU.

You can "open up" a K series Intel all the same, and it will absolutely kill AMD while using less power.
 

funboy6942

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You do realize those benchmarks I posted show a 9590 running at 4.7 ghz right?



Edit: I'll add some comments on the EVGA 600W bronze PSU since I own one. The setup in my sig has been run with Furmark cpu and gpu burner at the same time without failing... It can put out enough power for a 970 build easily.

OK, I just saw that, but it doesnt show the I5 6500 hes wanting to buy though, and the diff between the two could actually make them side by side for the I5 6600, is about 20%~ faster then the 6500 in some cases...

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/495/Intel_Core_i5_i5-6500_vs_Intel_Core_i5_i5-6600K.html

But my point still is, my set up is still saving him money, and if he pairs it with a gtx 980 and matches his $950~ price tag, it will be even faster then what all he has picked out, a better and higher psu to boot then a lower powered one as well. You keep pointing out that its faster with a gtx 980ti, but he cant afford a 980 ti with the set up he picked out, and cant afford a gtx 980 with the set up he picked out, he can only get a 970 and spend $950 and end up with a gtx 970 with the parts he picked out and a 600 watt psu the way he picked out and later on down the line if he wants to upgrade he'll have to spend more money and upgrade that. My way, he will already have a bad butt psu, so he wont have to ever upgrade that for a while, and Ive saved him enough money buying what Ive picked him out to not get a GTX 970, that crippled with the 3.5 ram, again future proofing him for future games, and get a GTX 980 instead which again, will make him much faster at that point then what all he has picked out. And since he will have a 900 watt psu (not the 600 he picked out), and a sli/sf board, can later get another gtx980 and really make the sucker sing ;)

Do you understand yet now???? I get the fact it may not be the "newest" thing out there, but for the money, and if he is going for frame rates and going for smooth gaming, and future proofing, hes getting a better psu, a better video card, that he will be able to 2 way then 3 way sli later, and the 8350 has been holding its own for years now and will for many more years, so he will be good to go for a while still till better comes along years from now. Im not a AMD fanboy, but a money fanboy, and this really will allow him to get some better parts, better gpu, and be faster then what he picked out in the OP.
 
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RussianSensation

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Normally I would not recommend a pre-built but HP has several good deals with i7 4790 + GTX980Ti or i7 6700 + GTX980TI that hover around $936-1100.
http://slickdeals.net/f/8256759-hp-...36-after-90-rebate-free-s-h?src=featured-4787

4790 and 980Ti are both better than an i5-6500 + 970/390 and by a lot too.

With basic overclocking, 980Ti ~ 970 SLI. It's going to be VERY hard to beat a $936 4790+980Ti deal with a DIY-build.

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clamum

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I'm considering putting together a new system in the near future, with a max price of probably around $900. I'll keep my video card and case, for now anyway. I was planning on getting an i5 6600 or an i7 6700, probably the latter, but I again and again see people recommending the 4790. Do you guys recommend the 4790 over say the 6700, with current and future gaming in mind? I don't really do any other intensive activities on my system besides games FWIW.
 

DeadFred

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I have tried the Window 10 preview and I noticed two things. First, if you are ok with the UI changes that Win 8 started, you won't mind Windows 10. For me, the Start Menu issues and the inconsistency in UI throughout the OS is irritating enough to not switch.

Second, if you are a privacy nut, like me, you don't want Windows 10's telemetry service. I understand that some of this has been backported to Win 7 though there are ways around it. :(

For everyone else, Windows 10 is fine. There is not any real performance benefit that I noticed yet, but in the future, this will change with DirectX 12.

I have a couple machines with Windows 8 and Im not really a fan even with classic shell installed. Im doing just fine with Windows 7 on my main gaming rig and it sounds like DX12 is the only reason I would ever want to upgrade. I guess Ill hold off for now.
 

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