Budget Build ~$400~

AssaultedNut

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This is my first build and so much of what I'm coming across is beyond my level of comprehension. I've done my fair share of research and have a little experience deconstructing computers. To put it simply, I can basically put this thing together from the perspective of them being Lego pieces. Here is some general information including the parameters of the build.


Purpose: This computer must be a passable low-end gaming machine that can also handle the multitasking necessary for my school work. Do I have that backwards? Also, this is a microATX build. Why the hell not?

Budget Range: I have a hard cap on my budget of $400 before shipping.

Location: Shipping, even from Newegg, is a concern because I won't benefit from the many free shipping options as I live in Puerto Rico. That being said, I will be ordering all my parts from Newegg regardless.

Brand Preference: Being so limited in my resources, I am building an AMD-based machine.

Parts Already Owned: Keyboard, mouse, and monitor.

Overclocking: Eventually, but not right now.

Gaming Resolution: 1920x1080, although I do play some games windowed at lower resolutions.

Build Date: I'm ordering the parts tonight, hopefully the build will be early next week.


For each major component I've assembled a list of parts I'm considering... If you have any suggestions or could point me in the right direction that would be greatly appreciated. Also if you could verify the compatibility of the parts that too would be a tremendous help.


Motherboard:
BIOSTAR A880G+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138283

microATX, customer choice award winner, seems to be a reputable if basic mobo.


CPU:
AMD Athlon II X2 250
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103903

AMD Phenom II X2 555
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103846

I believe the 555 has been mentioned as the most basic CPU for gaming rigs. Could I get away with the 250? I don't play FPS' so I may not necessarily need 60 FPS on mega-ultimate settings. I play less intensive games like Civilization IV (still learning V) and sometimes Warcraft III or World of Warcraft.


GPU:
Here I'm at a total loss in which manufacturer to go with. Radeon/GeForce seem to be very comparable on the low-end, so that's not a major concern for me, but rather who's manufacturing the actual card and their reliability. The Radeon 5550 and GeForce 420 seem to be the cards appropriate to my budget, but as with my CPU dilemma, I'm not sure what I could get away with and still play games smoothly at relatively high settings.


RAM:
G. Skills Ripjaw Series 7-7-7-21 4GB (2x2GB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231276

I'm wondering if I should just make the jump to the $40-50 range and aim for 8GB. Conversely is there memory in the $20-30 range that I could downgrade to without a noticeable loss in performance?


Power Supply:
Diablotek 380W microATX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817822001

Another solid if unspectacular component. I appreciate that it's sleeved and 380W seems more than sufficient. Still, I'd prefer something modular.


Hard Drive:
I'm not going to list any as it's a relatively small market of manufacturers. I see that the Samsung Spinpoint 1TB has garnered some acclaim, but I sincerely do not need that much space. Is there a smaller, faster option at $60 or less that could be recommended?


Case:
Thankfully the microATX case is another small market that doesn't take long to wade through. Rosewill seems to be the low-budget choice here, but oh, how I long for Lian-Li. Would a microATX build look ridiculous inside, say: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811112238 ?

If so, please provide me with some microATX case recommendations. Also, are there any worthwhile Case/Power Supply combinations that could help me invest more in to the components?


I think that covers the major components I'll need to get started, other than an optical drive. As far as OS, I'll likely go with Ubuntu although I have some Windows options.

If I've left out any information I'd be more than happy to supply it, thanks for any recommendations you leave! I'll be checking this thread throughout the day to hopefully place an order tonight.
 

titan131

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Intel Celeron G530 Sandy Bridge $56.99 (faster and cheaper than the Athlon II X2)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116409
ASRock H61M-VS $54.99 (biostar are a bit cheaper but I don't trust them myself)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157241
Antec EarthWatts Green 380W $39.99 (better than Diablotek)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151077
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 7200 RPM $44.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136769
LIAN LI Lancool PC-K58W $49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...&SID=u00000687
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB $34.99 (Shell Shocker) (1333 is fine for sandy bridge, there is zero benefit using higher speed ram for gaming)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231311
ASUS 24X DVD Burner $18.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135204
SAPPHIRE 5670 Radeon 512MB DDR5 $59.99 AR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102871

total 360.92

Review of G540 (couldn't find any for the G530)
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/celeron-g540-g440.html

Edit: the 5670 512 DDR5 version is faster than the cheaper 1gb DDR3 version.
 

Ken g6

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The microATX case of choice seems to be the Fractal Design 1000. It's the same after shipping here in the states, but might be better for you. Plus you won't be looking at that 2/3-height mobo through the window every day. ;)
 

aphelion02

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Whatever you do, do not buy diablotek. They are notorious for poor quality PSUs that bear no resemblance to their specs.
 

lehtv

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Agree with the titan's setup + Fractal 1000 case. Could afford to up the GPU budget, e.g. MSI 6770 1GB $95 + free Dirt 3.
 

AssaultedNut

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First off I want to thank everyone who posted for their contributions, especially titan131 who's build I followed near exactly. Without further ado, here is my purchase:


Motherboard: ASRock H61M-VS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157241

CPU: Intel Celeron G530 2.4GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116409

Memory: Kingston ValueRAM 2GB (2x1GB) DDR3 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820134637

GPU: MSI N430GT-MD1GD-OC/LP 430 GT
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127541

Hard Drive: WD Caviar Blue 160GB 7200RPM 8MB Cache
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136075

PSU: Antec EarthWatts Green 380W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371033

Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 micro ATX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811352009

Grand total: $309.93 in parts with $68.37 in shipping totaling, $378.30.

As far as picking the parts, I definitely cheaped out on the RAM and GPU. After the G. Skill shell shocker deal ran out (unfortunately I did not make my purchase in time) I decided to find the least expensive but reliable memory sticks knowing that they would be the simplest future upgrade and I won't need much more until I'm ready to overclock.

The 430 GT may not have built a reputation as a gaming card, but I can only claim at best to be a casual gamer. To that end it should be more than sufficient for my needs (Civ 4 & Civ 4 & Civ 4). The MSI model that I purchased does come factory overclocked and gives it a little muscle (up to ((roughly)) 20% more, in fact) to its comparatively weak, skeletal frame.

Lastly, regarding the case, these are generally a matter of preference. That being said, I was genuinely was impressed with the Core 1000 the second time I looked at it. At first I wrote it off for the top mounted power supply and sideways HDD panel. While I am still not a fan of either of those, I am not one to write off fine craftsmanship. Much less, fine Swedish craftsmanship. That and the Lian-Li case was $50 in shipping. Regardless, many thanks are again due to those who recommended the Fractal.

With the money I saved by coming in under my budget I'm going to get some kickin' awesome glowing keyboards!
 

Rainey

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I 5+ on Titan's build lol, this is not a bad build at all for your budget! I really like that core 1000 too I'm getting that on my micro atx build as well! Happy Gaming!
 

lehtv

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You should definitely pay a fiver more for a single 4GB RAM stick: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231421

The motherboard only fits 2 memory modules, so this would allow you to buy another 4GB stick in the future.

You can get Corsair CX430V2 for $35 after rebate, $10 less than the antec 380W.

Get a Hitachi 500GB 7200RPM drive for just $8 more: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822145299

With the money I saved by coming in under my budget I'm going to get some kickin' awesome glowing keyboards!

That's a terrible plan. At your budget, it's better to prioritise on components. Get a cheap keyboard/mouse combo for $20: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126097
 
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AssaultedNut

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You should definitely pay a fiver more for a single 4GB RAM stick: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231421

The motherboard only fits 2 memory modules, so this would allow you to buy another 4GB stick in the future.

You can get Corsair CX430V2 for $35 after rebate, $10 less than the antec 380W.

Get a Hitachi 500GB 7200RPM drive for just $8 more: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822145299



That's a terrible plan. At your budget, it's better to prioritise on components. Get a cheap keyboard/mouse combo for $20: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16823126097

I had read that some computers have difficulty running off of one stick of memory, which may just as well be misinformation spread by dual channel advocates. Still, I do plan on upgrading my memory in a couple months and just needed something functional with no frills. As it is this entire PC is a (pathetically) HUGE upgrade over my current PC (P4 3.4GHz, 512MB RAM, Radeon X300). I'm very much coming out of the stone age.

From my listed components do you think that 380W won't be enough for my estimated power draw?

The keyboard line was meant in jest as it's one of few items I carried over from my last PC (see OP). Although, bright disorienting colors... tempting.

Something I did forget to mention is that I have an external hard drive for storage. Is a WD Raptor a worthwhile purchase in the future for just my OS and programs? I don't think my motherboard is SSD compatible.
 

lehtv

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I had read that some computers have difficulty running off of one stick of memory, which may just as well be misinformation spread by dual channel advocates.
I doubt you'd run into any problems... If you want to be sure before you purchase, you could email an official source, e.g. ask Intel or Asrock (or both) about using only one memory module on a H61 board.

From my listed components do you think that 380W won't be enough for my estimated power draw?
It will be enough, but the Corsair is $10 cheaper so you should pick that instead.

Something I did forget to mention is that I have an external hard drive for storage.
The HDD you had picked is still extremely bad $/GB and it's also slower than the Hitachi.

Is a WD Raptor a worthwhile purchase in the future for just my OS and programs? I don't think my motherboard is SSD compatible.
No, SSD is the only way to go if you want higher disk performance than what a regular HDD can offer.

I don't think my motherboard is SSD compatible.
The mobo doesn't have SATA 6gb/s so you'd be limited to the 3gb/s bandwidth with an SSD. If you're sure you'll upgrade to an SSD at some point, it'd be a good idea to pay $10 more for this Asrock H61 board that supports SATA 6gb/s.
 

mfenn

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Agree with Lehtv. There are diminishing returns at the low end just like at the high end. About $25 more would have gotten you a lot more machine.
 

lehtv

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For some reason I got the impression you didn't order yet, but rereading the post I it seems you did. Nevermind... :E
 

zCypher

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I ran off a single 2GB module for months before buying a second one so I could have 4GB. I never had any problems.

Build looks pretty nice to me!