BSEL 1333 on a motherboard that oc's to get 1333?

[quadomatic]

So I'm thinking of trying to push my E2200 even further with a 1333 BSEL mod.

My motherboard supports 1333 fsb processors, but 1333 BSEL for 800 fsb processors hasn't worked for people. They say that the cpu is just recognized as a regular 800 mhz cpu.

This might be because it doesn't read the BSEL flags the same way that other motherboards do. My motherboard runs 1333 fsb by overclocking all the other component speeds (not positive what that means...). Is it possible that a different pin mod could be used to set it to 1333 fsb?

Yeah, my processor is an E2200, and doing this mod would put it at 3.7Ghz. While that might not be stable, it doesn't matter - having the fsb at 1333 unlocks the setting in the bios for changing the fsb, so I'd be able to lower the clock.

I'm interested in this partly because I could pick up a Q6600 and plop it in this motherboard at 1333 as well.

Any help would be appreciated to find a 1333 BSEL mod that would work on this motherboard.

 

[ther00kie16]

Well, how are you overclocking to 3ghz right now? 1066 BSEL? People who use 1333 BSEL mod only get about 3ghz anyway.

Edit: 1333 BSEL doesn't work on boards that don't natively support 1333, which would include your board.

 

[quadomatic]

Is there no way to force it? The motherboard is advertised as supporting 1333 fsb processors. Hell, it's even in the name.

It reads 1333 fsb processors and automatically sets it to 1333 fsb. Is there no way to make other processors force this?

 

[Zap]

I've had the pleasure ( ) of working with that motherboard, and also of playing around with BSEL mods.

The 945GC chipset does NOT "officially" support FSB 1333. These days it is not a problem as you just lock the PCIe and PCI bus speeds, lower the memory multiplier and overclock to your heart's content. However, the 945GC is an older chipset design that had a partially broken PCIe lock. This means past a certain MHz the PCIe bus is no longer locked. IIRC with a FSB of 333MHz the PCIe bus will be around 115MHz. You can set it differently, but either the setting won't take, or the board won't POST.

This particular ECS motherboard will detect FSB 1333 and run at the "proper" speeds because the BIOS is aware of it. However, because the PCIe bus is overclocked, your particular video card may or may not be able to handle that speed. When I was playing around with this board, I could not get my test PCIe video card (at the time, an EVGA 7600 GT) to work at those high PCIe speeds, thus I was stuck with integrated video.

FSB 800 chips CAN be BSEL modded to FSB 1333, however it is tricky. I have done this before and it indeed works if done properly and nothing bad happens to the mod (mine corroded over time and stopped working). What you have to do is the BSEL 1066 mod, then the 1066-to-1333 mod over it. Normally you would just contact the two pads on the bottom of the chip using conductive ink. However, one mod crosses over the other one so you have to insulate them from each other. I used aluminum foil and scotch tape. As I said, it worked for a few months and then stopped working - wouldn't POST. I took out the CPU to find the aluminum had corroded/discolored. I removed it and the CPU worked again, albeit without the BSEL mod anymore. If you can find a good way to get it to make the right contacts, then it will work.*

*That is, unless your board doesn't like that particular FSB or BSEL mods in general. Some boards for whatever reason don't work with BSEL mods.

I'm pretty sure the 945GC will not work with any quad core processor, so forget about the Q6600.

If you are this ambitious about overclocking and eventually wanting to go quad core, then I'd suggest a different motherboard. If you are on a budget, then look for the Gigabyte G31 chipset boards. They run about $55, the G31 chipset officially supports FSB 1333, Gigabyte officially says their boards support FSB 1600, the board/chipset officially supports 45nm and quad cores, PLUS... voltages are adjustable. Oh yeah, and the board supports faster RAM too.

 

[quadomatic]

I used rear window defogger paint to BSEL my processor. I put it together in February, so I guess it's nearing a year that the mod has stayed on.

I think people might have tried this bsel 1333 on the E2200 in my mobo when the fry's combo was around. Some claimed it didn't work, but it could be because they didn't do it right.

I'm a little hesitant to pick up another intel motherboard. I could buy one now, and then push my current cpu more and pick up a Q6600 or something later. But, it could turn out that the next Phenoms turn out to be the right deal. Though, at the predicted pricing, I'm not so sure of that.

I did want a new motherboard if only to have some slots in which I could actually plug in my Sound Blaster X-Fi again. I had to unplug them for my 9600GSO to fit with the Accelero S1 and 120mm fan.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: quadomatic
I think people might have tried this bsel 1333 on the E2200 in my mobo when the fry's combo was around. Some claimed it didn't work, but it could be because they didn't do it right.

I've put an E6550 in that board and it POSTed at the proper speed/FSB, albeit with a non-functional PCIe slot.

 

[quadomatic]

I guess I may be looking the wrong direction then.

I'll wait until after christmas and see what I can do about a new motherboard. Maybe I'll stick with Intel, maybe not. I bought a Gigabeat so I'd like to wait till after x-mas to get some extra cash before I blow it all on computer parts.

 

[Comdrpopnfresh]

taking that processor any higher won't do you much good- you've only got a 1mb cache, so performance gains will be the definition of diminishing returns. I'd look into a 45nm part, and a p35,p45, or nvidia chipset board. That, and lose the gig of reclaimed hp ram + try overclocking the corsair to 800mhz. good luck