both died mysteriously. bruce himself was short lived, rumor say he slept with a girl and died soon after. brandon lee, as soon he show up for the movie someone shot him with a real gun and they said it was an accident. I smell fishy here, now why is it that everyone else that acted don't get shot for real except him?
bruce lee and son
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guyver01
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On July 20th, 1973, Bruce Lee is pronounced dead at friend Betty Ting Pei's apartment. The cause of death was offically ruled as "severe swelling of the brain", but is and forever will be shrouded in mystery.
The rumors ranged from Lee being killed by Hong Kong triads (gangsters) because he refused to pay them protection money - ?something that was common for Chinese movie stars to do at that time ?to his being killed by an angry martial artist's dim mak (death touch) strike. Some people claimed Lee was cursed?he had just bought a house in Hong Kong that was supposed to be haunted?or that he had died while mking love to actress Betty Tingpei, or that he had angered the Chinese martial arts community by teaching foreigners, and that he had been killed in a challenge match.
The facts of the case are this: Lee died after falling into a coma. The coroner's report was inconclusive, and medical authorities came up with five reasons for Lee's untimely death. However, they all agreed that it was caused by a cerebral edema (a swelling of the brain caused by a congestion of fluid). But what caused the edema became a matter of speculation. For the most part, the course of events on that fateful July day in 1973 can be pieced together. According to Lee's wife, Linda, Bruce met film producer Raymond Chow at 2 p.m. at home to discuss the making of Game of Death. They worked until 4 p.m., and then drove together to the home of Betty Tingpei, a Taiwanese actress who was to also have a leading role in the film. The three went over the script at Tingpei's home, and then Chow left to attend a dinner meeting.
A short time later, Lee complained of a headache and Tingpei gave him a tablet of Equagesic?a kind of super sapirin. Apart from that, Lee reportedly consumed nothing but a couple of soft drinks.
At around 7:30 p.m., Lee lay down for a nap and was still asleep when Chow called to ask why he and Tingpei had not yet shown up for dinner as planned. The actress told Chow she could not wake Lee. The ensuing autopsy found traces of cannabis in Lee's stomach, but the significance of this discovery is debatable. Some believe the cannabis caused a chemical reaction that led to the cerebral edema, but the coroner's inquiry refutes this theory. In fact, one doctor was quoted as saying that the cannabis being in Lee's stomach was "no more significant than if Bruce had drunk a cup of tea that day."
Dr. R.R. Lycette of Queen Elizabeth Hospital viewed Lee's death as a hypersensitivity to one or more of the compounds found in the headache tablet he consumed that afternoon. Although his skull showed no injury, his brain had swollen considerably, from 1,400 to 1,575 grams. None of the blood vessels were blocked or broken, so the possibility of a hemorrhage was ruled out. All of Lee's internal organs were meticulously examined, and the only "foreign" substance to be found was the Equagesic.
Chow came to the apartment and could not wake Lee either. A doctor was summoned, and he spent 10 minutes attempting to revive the martial artist before sending him by ambulance to Queen Elizabeth Hospital. By the time he reached the hospital, Lee was dead .
Foul play was immediately suspected as having a role in Lee's passing. Chow appeared on television to try to settle the public furor that quickly developed. He explained what happened, omitting only the fact that Lee had not died at home. The press soon uncovered the truth, however, and demanded to know what Chow was trying to cover up. R.D. Teare, a professor of forensic medicine at the University of London who had overseen more than 90,000 autopsies, was called in and declared that it was basically impossible for the cannabis to be a factor in Lee's death. In Teare's opinion, the edema was caused by hypersensitivity to either meprobamate or aspirin, or a combination of both. His view was accepted by authorities, and a determination of "misadventure" was stamped on Lee's death.
Strangely, an early death was a conceivability that Lee had contemplated with surprising frequency. According to his wife Linda, he had no wish to live to a ripe old age because he could not stand the idea of losing the physical abilities he had strived so hard to achieve.
"If I should die tomorrow," he used to say, "I will have no regrets. I did what I wanted to do. You can't expect more from life."
The rumors ranged from Lee being killed by Hong Kong triads (gangsters) because he refused to pay them protection money - ?something that was common for Chinese movie stars to do at that time ?to his being killed by an angry martial artist's dim mak (death touch) strike. Some people claimed Lee was cursed?he had just bought a house in Hong Kong that was supposed to be haunted?or that he had died while mking love to actress Betty Tingpei, or that he had angered the Chinese martial arts community by teaching foreigners, and that he had been killed in a challenge match.
The facts of the case are this: Lee died after falling into a coma. The coroner's report was inconclusive, and medical authorities came up with five reasons for Lee's untimely death. However, they all agreed that it was caused by a cerebral edema (a swelling of the brain caused by a congestion of fluid). But what caused the edema became a matter of speculation. For the most part, the course of events on that fateful July day in 1973 can be pieced together. According to Lee's wife, Linda, Bruce met film producer Raymond Chow at 2 p.m. at home to discuss the making of Game of Death. They worked until 4 p.m., and then drove together to the home of Betty Tingpei, a Taiwanese actress who was to also have a leading role in the film. The three went over the script at Tingpei's home, and then Chow left to attend a dinner meeting.
A short time later, Lee complained of a headache and Tingpei gave him a tablet of Equagesic?a kind of super sapirin. Apart from that, Lee reportedly consumed nothing but a couple of soft drinks.
At around 7:30 p.m., Lee lay down for a nap and was still asleep when Chow called to ask why he and Tingpei had not yet shown up for dinner as planned. The actress told Chow she could not wake Lee. The ensuing autopsy found traces of cannabis in Lee's stomach, but the significance of this discovery is debatable. Some believe the cannabis caused a chemical reaction that led to the cerebral edema, but the coroner's inquiry refutes this theory. In fact, one doctor was quoted as saying that the cannabis being in Lee's stomach was "no more significant than if Bruce had drunk a cup of tea that day."
Dr. R.R. Lycette of Queen Elizabeth Hospital viewed Lee's death as a hypersensitivity to one or more of the compounds found in the headache tablet he consumed that afternoon. Although his skull showed no injury, his brain had swollen considerably, from 1,400 to 1,575 grams. None of the blood vessels were blocked or broken, so the possibility of a hemorrhage was ruled out. All of Lee's internal organs were meticulously examined, and the only "foreign" substance to be found was the Equagesic.
Chow came to the apartment and could not wake Lee either. A doctor was summoned, and he spent 10 minutes attempting to revive the martial artist before sending him by ambulance to Queen Elizabeth Hospital. By the time he reached the hospital, Lee was dead .
Foul play was immediately suspected as having a role in Lee's passing. Chow appeared on television to try to settle the public furor that quickly developed. He explained what happened, omitting only the fact that Lee had not died at home. The press soon uncovered the truth, however, and demanded to know what Chow was trying to cover up. R.D. Teare, a professor of forensic medicine at the University of London who had overseen more than 90,000 autopsies, was called in and declared that it was basically impossible for the cannabis to be a factor in Lee's death. In Teare's opinion, the edema was caused by hypersensitivity to either meprobamate or aspirin, or a combination of both. His view was accepted by authorities, and a determination of "misadventure" was stamped on Lee's death.
Strangely, an early death was a conceivability that Lee had contemplated with surprising frequency. According to his wife Linda, he had no wish to live to a ripe old age because he could not stand the idea of losing the physical abilities he had strived so hard to achieve.
"If I should die tomorrow," he used to say, "I will have no regrets. I did what I wanted to do. You can't expect more from life."
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Claim: The scene in which Brandon Lee was fatally wounded was left in the final cut of The Crow.
Status: False.
Origins: A number of rumors are associated with the death of actor Brandon Lee while filming the dark fantasy The Crow. Some suggest Lee was murdered by the same Chinese Mafia that supposedly caused the sudden death in 1973 of Lee's father, martial arts star Bruce Lee, as punishment for his exposure of ancient martial arts secrets on film. Others speculated that Brandon Lee was murdered by organized crime with ties to the Hong Kong movie industry, angered by his refusal to work in their films. The simple truth is that Brandon Lee was killed in a tragic accident, the result of carelessness and cost-cutting, and the scene was not used in the final cut.
According to newspaper and magazine accounts, the scene in question was staged early in the morning of March 31, 1993, in Wilmington, North Carolina. The scene was the death of Lee's character, Eric Draven, at the hands of street thugs, and was a pivotal plot element to the movie. Lee was to walk in through a door carrying a bag of groceries. Actor Michael Massee, who played Funboy, fired a revolver loaded with blanks at Lee. To complete the illusion, a small explosive charge was to go off in the grocery bag. Unfortunately, a fragment of a dummy bullet, used earlier in close-up shots, was lodged in the barrel, and the blank charge propelled the fragment into Lee's side, fatally wounding him.
The Internet Movie Database claims that the film was destroyed without being developed. By some accounts, however, all film taken of the scene was confiscated by Wilmington police for use in their investigation. It's possible that investigators simply viewed a video used by the production crew for quick playback. Subsequent investigations found Lee's death to be accidental, and while it was attributed to negligence on the part of the film crew, no criminal charges were filed. Lee's mother, Linda Lee Caldwell, did file a civil suit, but the matter was settled out of court.
In spite of the acrimony over responsibility for Lee's death, both his mother and his fiancé, Eliza Hutton, were supportive of completion of the film. Doing so required some rewrites, shooting remaining scenes with a double, and digitally "tricking" Lee's face into a few key scenes. The shots involving Draven's death were redone and nowhere is there a glimpse of him being shot through a grocery bag. Instead, as Draven enters the apartment, a knife is thrown at him by Tin-Tin, played by Lawrence Mason. The wounded Draven is later dragged to the center of the room, shot by Funboy and another of the gang, and then tossed out the window to his death. This scene is done by a double; the only time Lee's face is seen in this series of shots is as he falls to his death. This was accomplished by digitally adding Lee's face to a double.
Concern over how to market a movie in which the principal star has been killed prompted the original studio, Paramount Pictures, to bow out. Several other studios declined the film, until Miramax, which has earned a reputation for successfully marketing small, hard-to-sell films, took it up. Miramax has used controversy to its advantage in marketing films like The Crying Game, but took the high road in the release of The Crow. Very little was made of Lee's death in the advertising of his final film, and the closing credits carry the simple dedication "For Brandon and Eliza".
Status: False.
Origins: A number of rumors are associated with the death of actor Brandon Lee while filming the dark fantasy The Crow. Some suggest Lee was murdered by the same Chinese Mafia that supposedly caused the sudden death in 1973 of Lee's father, martial arts star Bruce Lee, as punishment for his exposure of ancient martial arts secrets on film. Others speculated that Brandon Lee was murdered by organized crime with ties to the Hong Kong movie industry, angered by his refusal to work in their films. The simple truth is that Brandon Lee was killed in a tragic accident, the result of carelessness and cost-cutting, and the scene was not used in the final cut.
According to newspaper and magazine accounts, the scene in question was staged early in the morning of March 31, 1993, in Wilmington, North Carolina. The scene was the death of Lee's character, Eric Draven, at the hands of street thugs, and was a pivotal plot element to the movie. Lee was to walk in through a door carrying a bag of groceries. Actor Michael Massee, who played Funboy, fired a revolver loaded with blanks at Lee. To complete the illusion, a small explosive charge was to go off in the grocery bag. Unfortunately, a fragment of a dummy bullet, used earlier in close-up shots, was lodged in the barrel, and the blank charge propelled the fragment into Lee's side, fatally wounding him.
The Internet Movie Database claims that the film was destroyed without being developed. By some accounts, however, all film taken of the scene was confiscated by Wilmington police for use in their investigation. It's possible that investigators simply viewed a video used by the production crew for quick playback. Subsequent investigations found Lee's death to be accidental, and while it was attributed to negligence on the part of the film crew, no criminal charges were filed. Lee's mother, Linda Lee Caldwell, did file a civil suit, but the matter was settled out of court.
In spite of the acrimony over responsibility for Lee's death, both his mother and his fiancé, Eliza Hutton, were supportive of completion of the film. Doing so required some rewrites, shooting remaining scenes with a double, and digitally "tricking" Lee's face into a few key scenes. The shots involving Draven's death were redone and nowhere is there a glimpse of him being shot through a grocery bag. Instead, as Draven enters the apartment, a knife is thrown at him by Tin-Tin, played by Lawrence Mason. The wounded Draven is later dragged to the center of the room, shot by Funboy and another of the gang, and then tossed out the window to his death. This scene is done by a double; the only time Lee's face is seen in this series of shots is as he falls to his death. This was accomplished by digitally adding Lee's face to a double.
Concern over how to market a movie in which the principal star has been killed prompted the original studio, Paramount Pictures, to bow out. Several other studios declined the film, until Miramax, which has earned a reputation for successfully marketing small, hard-to-sell films, took it up. Miramax has used controversy to its advantage in marketing films like The Crying Game, but took the high road in the release of The Crow. Very little was made of Lee's death in the advertising of his final film, and the closing credits carry the simple dedication "For Brandon and Eliza".
wow and no one mentions the dreams the bruce lee supposedly had according to the movie Dragon.
according to that story a demon was after the line of bruce lee and his father. his father died an untimely death trying to protect him. bruce lee supposedly defeated the demon in one of his trance/dreams (according to the movie) thereby saving his son (now for those who don't remember this film was shot several years before brandon lee died).
apparently he didn't defeat the demon because his son also died an untimely and early death.
just food for thought.
according to that story a demon was after the line of bruce lee and his father. his father died an untimely death trying to protect him. bruce lee supposedly defeated the demon in one of his trance/dreams (according to the movie) thereby saving his son (now for those who don't remember this film was shot several years before brandon lee died).
apparently he didn't defeat the demon because his son also died an untimely and early death.
just food for thought.
<U>Apart from that, Lee reportedly consumed nothing but a couple of soft drinks.</U>
See? That proves it... Coke wins
See? That proves it... Coke wins
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