"Brooklyn Marine sergeant & wife tortured, slain in Calif."

Infohawk

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WTF is going on here?

Pietrzak's mother said she can't understand how Marines could have committed such a crime.

"Don't the Marines screen out people like this?" she said. "Didn't they know they had murderers under their roof?"

Good question.

Originally posted by: Corbett
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/new...er_of_Marine_Wife.html

OP, please add this link to your OP. Shows the mug shots of the 4 guys that did it.

All 4 are black. I wonder if it really WAS racially motivated.

 

Lemon law

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I have a feeling its not a robbery motive, but its useless to speculate until more facts come out.
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
I have a feeling its not a robbery motive, but its useless to speculate until more facts come out.

Yeah why torture if you're just robbing.
 

TallBill

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Originally posted by: counterstrikedude
yeah article doesnt give nearly enough info to make a judgment.

Ok, you are officially stupid. Not that we didn't know before hand, but now it's official.
 

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Brooklyn Marine sergeant & wife tortured, slain in Calif.; 4 of his men are arrested

BY CORKY SIEMASZKO
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Updated Thursday, November 6th 2008, 12:30 PM
Brooklyn Marine Sgt. Jan Pawel Pietrzak and his wife, Quiana, seen in August wedding photo, were found tortured and slain Oct. 15 in their home near San Diego.

Brooklyn Marine Sgt. Jan Pawel Pietrzak and his wife, Quiana, seen in August wedding photo, were found tortured and slain Oct. 15 in their home near San Diego.

A Brooklyn-raised Marine sergeant and his new bride were tortured and killed execution-style in their California home - allegedly by four other Marines under his command.

Sgt. Jan Pawel Pietrzak, who was raised in Bensonhurst, and his wife, Quiana, were found bound and gagged in the ransacked house, each shot in the head.

Pietrzak was the suspects' sergeant at Camp Pendleton, Quiana's mother said Wednesday.

"They're monsters," Faye Jenkins told the Daily News. "They're monsters."

Pietrzak's mother, Henryka Pietrzak-Varga, said she had prepared herself "for the possibility that my son could die in Iraq."

"But to die like this, in their own home?" she told The News. "They were good kids. They didn't deserve to die like this."

Investigators said the motive for murder was "financial gain." Neither mother believes that.

"When I found out what they did to them, it was like they killed me, too," Pietrzak-Varga said.

A spokesman for the Riverside County district attorney's office would not comment on reports that Pietrzak was killed by his own men.

Detectives also did not divulge what the accused Marines were looking for, but the suspects were tied to the crime by items found in their homes and on the military base.

Born in Poland, Pietrzak was 10 when he moved to the U.S. and enlisted after the 9/11 attacks. He was named Jan Pawel, which means John Paul, after the Polish pontiff.

A mechanic who worked on helicopters, Pietrzak, 24, met his wife three years ago at a party for Marines being deployed to Iraq.

Quiana Jenkins-Pietrzak, 26, who worked for the county's Black Infant Care Center, was reluctant to date a Marine. But Pietrzak wooed her, and they were married in August.

"They were in love," her mother-in-law said. "It didn't matter to them that they had different skin colors."

The bride wore her favorite white Converse sneakers, and she was still in the process of writing thank-you cards when she was killed.

"She was our only child and my best friend," Faye Jenkins said. "He was like my son. He was so proud to be a Marine. But when he was off the base, he was my son."

The Pietrzaks were not rich and purchased their five-bedroom home in May through a foreclosure, said Waldemar Piasecki, a New York-based Polish journalist and family friend. He used his reenlistment bonus to replace the hardwood floor and carpet.

"They were hardworking young people," Piasecki said.

On Oct. 15, deputies were dispatched to the Pietrzak home in Winchester, an exurb of San Diego, when the Marine did not show up for work.

When they arrived, the deputies found the Pietrzaks in the living room and evidence that the robbers had tried to cover their tracks by torching the house.

Charged with murder and other crimes are Pvt. Emrys John, 18, of Maryland; Lance Cpl. Tyrone Miller, 20, of North Carolina; Pvt. Kevin Darnell Cox, 20, of Tennessee, and Pvt. Kesuan Sykes, 21, of California.

Lawyers for the men could not be reached for comment.

Pietrzak's mother said she can't understand how Marines could have committed such a crime.

"Don't the Marines screen out people like this?" she said. "Didn't they know they had murderers under their roof?"

csiemaszko@nydailynews.com

Looking at the picture of the victim and the wife, the motivation behind the torture and murder points to racism. Should definitely bring back public execution for this kind of crime.

As for the Marines filtering murders, there was an episode of Gangland on History Channel on Gangs in the Military. Was quit interesting.
 
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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: counterstrikedude
yeah article doesnt give nearly enough info to make a judgment.

Ok, you are officially stupid. Not that we didn't know before hand, but now it's official.

how so?

im not in a position to say who is responsible for the deaths of the soldier and his wife. there are suspects, obviously, but not enough info to make a judgment.

get it?

i know most of u r emotionally driven but this is simple logic.
 

JS80

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Charged with murder and other crimes are Pvt. Emrys John, 18, of Maryland; Lance Cpl. Tyrone Miller, 20, of North Carolina; Pvt. Kevin Darnell Cox, 20, of Tennessee, and Pvt. Kesuan Sykes, 21, of California.

I have a creeping suspicion this was racially motivated.
 

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Originally posted by: JS80
Charged with murder and other crimes are Pvt. Emrys John, 18, of Maryland; Lance Cpl. Tyrone Miller, 20, of North Carolina; Pvt. Kevin Darnell Cox, 20, of Tennessee, and Pvt. Kesuan Sykes, 21, of California.

I have a creeping suspicion this was racially motivated.

Or they just hated their commander. Could be either; psychos don't make much sense.
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: counterstrikedude
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: counterstrikedude
yeah article doesnt give nearly enough info to make a judgment.

Ok, you are officially stupid. Not that we didn't know before hand, but now it's official.

how so?

im not in a position to say who is responsible for the deaths of the soldier and his wife. there are suspects, obviously, but not enough info to make a judgment.

get it?

i know most of u r emotionally driven but this is simple logic.

you leap to judgments everywhere else with less evidence.
 

JS80

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I love how the article gives you all the info you need to come to a pretty good conclusion but doesn't say it.
 
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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: counterstrikedude
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: counterstrikedude
yeah article doesnt give nearly enough info to make a judgment.

Ok, you are officially stupid. Not that we didn't know before hand, but now it's official.

how so?

im not in a position to say who is responsible for the deaths of the soldier and his wife. there are suspects, obviously, but not enough info to make a judgment.

get it?

i know most of u r emotionally driven but this is simple logic.

you leap to judgments everywhere else with less evidence.

wrong again.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Pietrzak's mother said she can't understand how Marines could have committed such a crime.

"Don't the Marines screen out people like this?" she said. "Didn't they know they had murderers under their roof?"

Good question.

That's a dumb question. But I'm sure they'll add that to their screening in the future. "Have you ever murdered anyone, or do you plan to murder anyone in the future?"

You can give people all the psychological tests you want, but we aren't capable of identifying every murderer before they commit their crimes.

No, you can't blame the USMC for this. You can blame the people who committed the crime.
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: mugs
That's a dumb question. But I'm sure they'll add that to their screening in the future. "Have you ever murdered anyone, or do you plan to murder anyone in the future?"

You can give people all the psychological tests you want, but we aren't capable of identifying every murderer before they commit their crimes.

No, you can't blame the USMC for this. You can blame the people who committed the crime.

It's common knowledge that the military has decreased its standards to keep up with the wars. Of course you can't predict every murderer, but we'll see when more information comes out about these guys whether there were any clues.
 

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: mugs
That's a dumb question. But I'm sure they'll add that to their screening in the future. "Have you ever murdered anyone, or do you plan to murder anyone in the future?"

You can give people all the psychological tests you want, but we aren't capable of identifying every murderer before they commit their crimes.

No, you can't blame the USMC for this. You can blame the people who committed the crime.

It's common knowledge that the military has decreased its standards to keep up with the wars. Of course you can't predict every murderer, but we'll see when more information comes out about these guys whether there were any clues.

The most common crimes that I heard about as a child while living on military bases as a child were domestic abuse and rape...im not saying that rape was actually the most common crime, just that it was disturbingly common even in a place where a lot of people would think that wouldn't be the case.

this was way before the lowering of the standards..

lets not be dishonest, im not calling military people rapists or anything of the sort, all im saying is that the military attracts aggressive personalities and unfortunately a good percentage of people who fit that category are criminal minded
 

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The few, the proud...
 

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: mugs
That's a dumb question. But I'm sure they'll add that to their screening in the future. "Have you ever murdered anyone, or do you plan to murder anyone in the future?"

You can give people all the psychological tests you want, but we aren't capable of identifying every murderer before they commit their crimes.

No, you can't blame the USMC for this. You can blame the people who committed the crime.

It's common knowledge that the military has decreased its standards to keep up with the wars. Of course you can't predict every murderer, but we'll see when more information comes out about these guys whether there were any clues.

All branches of the military service have had problems both in the enlisted and also in the commissioned ranks. It is not just over the past 4-5 years.

There are always a few bad apples

 

Mill

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
The few, the proud...

I don't know how anyone tolerates you.

Prediction: You will become more and more like dmcowen until you two merge as one.
 

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Originally posted by: JS80
I love how the article gives you all the info you need to come to a pretty good conclusion but doesn't say it.

The article says robbery or "financial gain" was a motive, then goes to great pains to tell how they were struggling and working hard for everything they had. Obviously ROBBERY was NOT a motive. And if all they wanted to do was rob the house, they could have done that when nobody was home.

It states they were tortured and killed execution style. So, if it was not a racial statement, then the only other possibility is these guys were discovered doing something illegal at the base like stealing weapons, and this was an attempt at silencing the soldier and sending a message. Which would certainly make an organized gang type of hit a possibility, as well.

Which is why the military has no business policing the USA under any circumstances, unless they wish to use them only for policing the borders. But even that is a most likely a bad idea if gangs have really infiltrated the military.

And I saw that special on gangs in the military, too.