Broken maybe resistor?

[p0rkguy]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8aw7pn177503agr/MSI Z87-43.png

These two are broken on my friend's motherboard. Apparently he broke it off trying to install a HSF with pliers. Is there anyway for me to fix it for him?
It says CPU_IO and CPU_CORE3.

 

[dma0991]

It usually snaps off rather than detaching at the solder points, so you would have to buy that component. Even with a soldering iron, I've never successfully reattaching it because its tiny, causing the heat from the soldering tip to heat up the entire thing rather than on either ends of the solder joint. Even as PCB blanks at the factory, they usually come pre-soldered by machines, leaving larger components for human assembly.

Your best bet is to try it out if it works without those components as RMA does not cover negligence. You could pretend that it doesn't work and RMA it and might get a replacement but its unethical and if it has score marks on the PCB surface, it will be rejected.

 

[p0rkguy]

Where can I buy these little pieces if I do decide to repair it? Also, what tools would I need?
He does have a few marks on it due to the pliers. I'm just going to go ahead and install 7 and see how it goes.

Edit- Installed 7 just fine.
Also, why the hell do I have to install the drivers through the CD? They should at least have the LAN driver working out of the box. Is this new? Seems like a step backwards.

 

[Kenmitch]

Did you solder them back on?

Heres a video that shows how those are put on.

Interesting video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vWrEmpRX_Q

I usually download drivers to usb stick becore windows install. Always need to load LAN drivers.

 

[p0rkguy]

I do not know how to nor do I have the proper tools.
Should this thread be moved to Computer Help?

 

[dma0991]

Find out what's the code on the resistor first, to determine how many Ohms does it require. You need to find a SMD resistor, which one depends on the results of the first step and whether there are sold. As for tools you will need this and this which helps with the adhesion of the solder. Optionally you can get this as well which does help in removing and preparing the solder pads.

There's a disclaimer, if you're inexperienced with a soldering iron, you can and will do more damage. There are good practices to soldering that only comes with experience. If you aren't sure about soldering, its still better to get it returned or consider it a dead board and get a new one(if it doesn't work at all).

 

[Soulkeeper]

Those little SMD components are hard to work with (specially if you have older eyes).
I can't see from that low res picture, but I'd be worried about damaged traces on the pcb if the plyers hit the surface.

IMO your best bet is to get in contact with the motherboard maker.
At the very least get a quote on how much they'd charge to fix it.
They'd prolly just send you a new one as an exchange for a small charge.

 

[Vinwiesel]

It is hard to tell from that picture, but those are probably just some tiny ceramic filter capacitors to reduce noise at the test-points for voltage measurement. In all likelihood, they are not critical, and just one of dozens on the same circuit. I would just run without them and not worry unless there are problems.

If they truly are resistors, they might be critical to some circuit, and I would replace them before using the board. You would need to find someone with the same motherboard and get them to measure the value.

A resistor is usually very flat, and blue/black/green top with white ceramic underneath.

A ceramic capacitor is usually more square, and tan colored.

 

[paul878]

Those looks like capacitor you can get them at digikey or mouser, but the problem is you don't know the value. You can try to scavenge them from another circuit board. Look for one that are the same physical size and hope thy have the same value. Then you need a mico fine solder iron tip, very steady hands, and a pair of eagle eyes to solder them back on.

If the board is working just use it as is, the repair is more trouble than it is worth if you don't already have to tool and components on hand.

 

[p0rkguy]

Well, everything is "working", except BSOD/freeze crashes.
Bluescreenview - https://www.dropbox.com/s/ldr1feg32t42r4u/memory dmp.png
Not sure if it was the cause of the CPU or not.
Prime95 - https://www.dropbox.com/s/cscvx5be43jma0y/prime95.png
Any ideas?

Edit - Event Viewer
Event 41, Kernel-Power 8/17/2013 12:30:37 PM
The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly.
Event 3, Kernel-EventTracing 8/17/2013 12:30:39 PM
Session "Microsoft Security Client OOBE" stopped due to the following error: 0xC000000D
Event 1005, BugCheck 8/17/2013 12:30:44 PM
Unable to produce a minidump file from the full dump file.
Event 1001, BugCheck 8/17/2013 12:30:44 PM
The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x00000124 (0x0000000000000000, 0xfffffa800717d028, 0x00000000be000000, 0x000000000100110a). A dump was saved in: C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP. Report Id: .

It is also constantly showing this
Event 11, atapi
The driver detected a controller error on \Device\Ide\IdePort0.
Could this be the problem?

 

[fixbsod]

try running the memory dump thru whocrashed

not sure what we're looking at in p95 -- the workers seem fine ?

 

[p0rkguy]

I thought it would be a CPU issue due to those two pieces (resistors?) broken off.
My friend gave me this

On Sat 8/17/2013 4:30:12 PM GMT your computer crashed
crash dump file: C:\Windows\memory.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: Unknown (0xFFFFFA800717D028)
Bugcheck code: 0x124 (0x0, 0xFFFFFA800717D028, 0xBE000000, 0x100110A)
Error: WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR
Bug check description: This bug check indicates that a fatal hardware error has occurred. This bug check uses the error data that is provided by the Windows Hardware Error Architecture (WHEA).
This is likely to be caused by a hardware problem problem. This problem might be caused by a thermal issue.
A third party driver was identified as the probable root cause of this system error.
Google query: WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR

 

[RadiclDreamer]

Where can I buy these little pieces if I do decide to repair it? Also, what tools would I need?
He does have a few marks on it due to the pliers. I'm just going to go ahead and install 7 and see how it goes.

Edit- Installed 7 just fine.
Also, why the hell do I have to install the drivers through the CD? They should at least have the LAN driver working out of the box. Is this new? Seems like a step backwards.

Windows usually supports the major hardware of the time, either the lan card wasnt a common piece of hardware at the time, or possibly it wasnt even released. Im not sure how you expect them to have a driver for something that in all likely hood was not even in exisitance at the time of windows pressing the disc.

 

[Kenmitch]

Windows usually supports the major hardware of the time, either the lan card wasnt a common piece of hardware at the time, or possibly it wasnt even released. Im not sure how you expect them to have a driver for something that in all likely hood was not even in exisitance at the time of windows pressing the disc.

I kind of like the no LAN support on initial install. Gives me a chance to install drivers, disable hybernation, shrink page file, etc before I'm bombarded with windows updates. Win7 needs a sp2. Not a fan of win8 yet. Dual boot to it once in a while but currently dont enjoy the experience so far.

 

[sparker1]

If you're getting BSOD then it may be because there is too much ripple (wayward voltages). Those filter capacitors are being missed by the board and should be replaced. It's not that hard. If you can find the schematic you can get their value from that.