Broke a guys nose, am I going to jail?

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spidey07

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Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Yeah, what you did was wrong. But keeping on making excuses for it is ridiculous.

You were pissed. You assaulted him. You're lucky he's not filing charges against you.

/story

People make their own choices. Dude chose to gamble with consequences.

He lost and rightfully got what was coming.

No crime was commited here except the sexual assaut by creepo.
 

Agentbolt

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suppose what I did was wrong, but if I hadn't pulled up at that exact time, he may have tried to assault her in a way that would harm her. You never know, he could have grabbed a knife and tried to force himself on her again.

That's doubtful, but at least you're admitting you overreacted. He didn't press charges, everyone involved is fine, story's over. I'm sure it was a learning experience for everyone involved.
 

TehMac

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And your girl friend can press charges for attempted rape. From her words, it sounds like sexual harassment, as well as battery. You could just say you were defending her. She'd also have her word in as well. So no, he won't press charges, and neither should you.
 

Vonkhan

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OP ... :thumbsup: u did what u had to do.

... lest the pu$$ification of society continue
 

Garet Jax

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Originally posted by: Duddy
So my girlfriend and I were carrying some furniture into her new apartment and one of our friends was helping us. I went back to her house to pick up the coffee table.

As I'm driving back she calls me and tells me that our friend was playing around and pushed her onto her bed, got on top of her, held her down and tried to forcefully kiss her. She pushed him off and told him to leave her alone. He walked into the next room and she locked her bedroom door.

By the time she was done telling me I was pulling up to the apartment. I proceeded to enter the apartment, slam him to the ground by his throat and punched him straight in his nose. He started bleeding on my girlfriends carpet so I dragged him outside by his car and told him to leave and to stay the **** away from my girlfriend.


I have no idea what is happening now. o_O

EDIT: I also sprang the hell out of my right hand. :(

You should go to jail. Let's hope the justice system gets it right. You had no right to punch the man - your girlfriend maybe, but not you.
 

ChaoZ

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Originally posted by: Garet Jax
Originally posted by: Duddy
So my girlfriend and I were carrying some furniture into her new apartment and one of our friends was helping us. I went back to her house to pick up the coffee table.

As I'm driving back she calls me and tells me that our friend was playing around and pushed her onto her bed, got on top of her, held her down and tried to forcefully kiss her. She pushed him off and told him to leave her alone. He walked into the next room and she locked her bedroom door.

By the time she was done telling me I was pulling up to the apartment. I proceeded to enter the apartment, slam him to the ground by his throat and punched him straight in his nose. He started bleeding on my girlfriends carpet so I dragged him outside by his car and told him to leave and to stay the **** away from my girlfriend.


I have no idea what is happening now. o_O

EDIT: I also sprang the hell out of my right hand. :(

You should go to jail. Let's hope the justice system gets it right. You had no right to punch the man - your girlfriend maybe, but not you.

And if his girlfriend was getting raped, he would have no right to stop it either.
 

Garet Jax

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Originally posted by: Duddy
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
After she told him to get the **** off, he walked into the kitchen or something kinda just stood there like he was more embarrased than scared.

Then you're an idiot. She wasn't in any danger, you were just pissed. I'm sure you'll impress the hell out of a few random ATOTers with your tough-guy atittude, but legally you've screwed yourself by behaving like a jackass. Bravo.

Your an idiot. Tough guy attitude?! Of course! I was pissed!!

I'm normally a friendly tech helper! He light a short fuse and had it coming. If you don't believe that then America has succesfully raised p***y men!

Dude, no one ever said he didn't have it coming, but you didn't have a legal right to him him. You should have gotten him to throw the first punch, then broken his nose. At that point there are two acts of aggression to back you up. Now there is a hard case to
make that she felt in danger.
 

thepd7

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Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Try growing up in Texas a$$hole.

Brilliant. Are people from Texas simply unaware of the reputation Texas has pretty much everywhere that's NOT Texas?

Look, I get it. You're a tough guy defending your girl. Woo hoo. I'd have been pissed too. The fact is, your girlfriend wasn't in danger, you were pissed, and you handled it like a mongloid.

You're not gonna go to jail over this unless the guy has some kind of connections. But you're gonna be surprised how much this inconveniences you if the guy you punched decides to really pursue charges. Furthermore, if you're convinced you actually did something acceptable here, you're well on your way to becoming a thug and going to jail for something else.

As impressive as the "you're gay" and "Don't mess with Texas!" replies are, it's the typical retort of your average Internet Tough Guy who has nothing constructive to say. You're a chump, OP. Hopefully someday you'll grow up.

Are any of you lawyers? I am not, but I do know this: in the eyes of the law what matters is whether OP believed that his gf was in danger and whether that is a reasonable belief.

Did you see the story where the husband shot his wife's lover because she said he had raped her and was driving away with her? Was she in any danger? NO! Are charges going to be pressed for murder? NO! Because he had a justifiable reason to believe she was in danger.

The OP's gf called saying a guy had tried to force himself on her. His state of mind was that he believed she was in danger. The person who sexually assaulted his gf was STILL IN THE APARTMENT. It is obvious that his gf didn't feel safe since she locked her door. Since when did locked doors stop rapists?

I hope that one day this happens to each one of you saying the OP is an idiot because you will either:
A. Do exactly what the OP did or
B. Let the guy go and get told you are a pvssy by your gf for not defending her.

 

Garet Jax

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Originally posted by: ChaoZ
Originally posted by: Garet Jax
Originally posted by: Duddy
So my girlfriend and I were carrying some furniture into her new apartment and one of our friends was helping us. I went back to her house to pick up the coffee table.

As I'm driving back she calls me and tells me that our friend was playing around and pushed her onto her bed, got on top of her, held her down and tried to forcefully kiss her. She pushed him off and told him to leave her alone. He walked into the next room and she locked her bedroom door.

By the time she was done telling me I was pulling up to the apartment. I proceeded to enter the apartment, slam him to the ground by his throat and punched him straight in his nose. He started bleeding on my girlfriends carpet so I dragged him outside by his car and told him to leave and to stay the **** away from my girlfriend.


I have no idea what is happening now. o_O

EDIT: I also sprang the hell out of my right hand. :(

You should go to jail. Let's hope the justice system gets it right. You had no right to punch the man - your girlfriend maybe, but not you.

And if his girlfriend was getting raped, he would have no right to stop it either.

Way to put word in my mouth tool.

If she was in danger, then he had every right to do whatever was required to save her. But lets not blow this out of proportion - from the description she was not in any danger (especially now that OP arrived). In addition, OP didn't even try to establish whether or not she was in danger - he just walloped the man.
 

doze

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Screw these guys you did the right thing OP

If the cops show up STFU and get a lawyer
 

Garet Jax

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Originally posted by: thepd7
Are any of you lawyers? I am not, but I do know this: in the eyes of the law what matters is whether OP believed that his gf was in danger and whether that is a reasonable belief.

Did you see the story where the husband shot his wife's lover because she said he had raped her and was driving away with her? Was she in any danger? NO! Are charges going to be pressed for murder? NO! Because he had a justifiable reason to believe she was in danger.

The OP's gf called saying a guy had tried to force himself on her. His state of mind was that he believed she was in danger. The person who sexually assaulted his gf was STILL IN THE APARTMENT. It is obvious that his gf didn't feel safe since she locked her door. Since when did locked doors stop rapists?

I hope that one day this happens to each one of you saying the OP is an idiot because you will either:
A. Do exactly what the OP did or
B. Let the guy go and get told you are a pvssy by your gf for not defending her.

You have a good point here. Hindsight is always 20/20 and it is easy to see that the GF was really in no more danger now because the man didn't even fight back against the OP assaulting him. It may not have been so easy to determine this at the time.

I still say though - you have to at least tell the man to leave before slugging him. If he hesitates or resists (giving the impression he planned to do more), then slug away.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Yeah, what you did was wrong. But keeping on making excuses for it is ridiculous.

You were pissed. You assaulted him. You're lucky he's not filing charges against you.

/story

People make their own choices. Dude chose to gamble with consequences.

He lost and rightfully got what was coming.

No crime was commited here except the sexual assaut by creepo.

Man, I've never known anyone to post such bad information with such confidence. I'm glad the guy is not pressing charges, because he did deserve what he got, but the OP didn't have a legal right to punch him. He wasn't defending the girlfriend, he was retaliating. She was locked in the bedroom, the other guy was standing in the other room embarrassed by what he did.

I would have done the same thing the OP did, and I'm glad it worked out for him, but you're wrong when you say he didn't break the law. Whether the police would have done anything about it is a different story - but you're wrong when you say he didn't break the law.
 

Injury

Lifer
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I think it's a rule of ATOT threads about physical violence that they go from 0 to stupid in about 20 posts or less.

No exception here.

Actually feasable question in the beginning... with feasable answers... then it went straight to stupid.
 

ranmaniac

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You should have hired that 14 year old Vietnamese kid from the other post to beat the living tar out of the guy.
 

bigdog1218

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Duddy

I'm normally a friendly tech helper! He light a short fuse and had it coming. If you don't believe that then America has succesfully raised p***y men!

This country is getting pretty soft. People are so sensitive now. I bet the mere presence of Clint Eastwood is enough to make some of these people cry.

You're a lifer on an internet forum, please instruct everyone on how to be tough.
 

Luthien

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I believe he could press charges for your actions.
I believe your girlfriend could press charges for his actions.

If your girlfriend really believed he meant her harm she would have called the police already IMO.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: mugs
Man, I've never known anyone to post such bad information with such confidence. I'm glad the guy is not pressing charges, because he did deserve what he got, but the OP didn't have a legal right to punch him. He wasn't defending the girlfriend, he was retaliating. She was locked in the bedroom, the other guy was standing in the other room embarrassed by what he did.

I would have done the same thing the OP did, and I'm glad it worked out for him, but you're wrong when you say he didn't break the law. Whether the police would have done anything about it is a different story - but you're wrong when you say he didn't break the law.

What part of "she was in danger" isn't quite sinking in?

You are allowed to protect your mate. This is at the core of society. Laws protect this very basic right.

There are two laws broken - attempted sexual assault and proper retirbution. Cops aren't gonna do jack here.

There's a natural order to things and it all has to do with consequences. Judges normally fall on the side of, well, judgement. In this case the judgement of the OP was proper and brought sweet justice.

-edit-
For what it's worth this scenario has happened to 3 of my buddies. Cops told the loser to get lost and don't come back. Justice.
 

meltdown75

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FWIW I would have done the same thing.

edit: I'm not sure if I would have stopped there though. :(
 

mugs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: spidey07
What part of "she was in danger" isn't quite sinking in?

The problem is he knew she wasn't in danger anymore, because until he pulled up to the apartment he was talking to her on the phone.
 

Garet Jax

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Originally posted by: spidey07
What part of "she was in danger" isn't quite sinking in?

You are allowed to protect your mate. This is at the core of society. Laws protect this very basic right.

There are two laws broken - attempted sexual assault and proper retirbution. Cops aren't gonna do jack here.

There's a natural order to things and it all has to do with consequences. Judges normally fall on the side of, well, judgement. In this case the judgement of the OP was proper and brought sweet justice.

She was no longer in danger when the OP hit him? If he'd been banging on the locked door or even taken an aggressive stance with the OP, then I'd agree with you. From the story the OP tells, he was doing nothing and may have even been a little embarrased.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: spidey07
What part of "she was in danger" isn't quite sinking in?

The problem is he knew she wasn't in danger anymore, because until he pulled up to the apartment he was talking to her on the phone.

Attacker causing emotional harm to my mate means I'm free to do whatever the hell I want to him.

I hate this pussification of america. I really, really do.
 

iRONic

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Originally posted by: Duddy
My girlfriend just sent me this text:

"@sshole just txt me and says that he is sorry and that he deserved what he got"


Next one:

"he says he wont mess me (her) again and that he wont call the cops"


THANKS GOD!!!!!

Uh oh....

Danger, Will Robinson!

It was a lovers spat. They've been having an affair.

Sucks for you...
 

SmoochyTX

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: spidey07
What part of "she was in danger" isn't quite sinking in?

The problem is he knew she wasn't in danger anymore, because until he pulled up to the apartment he was talking to her on the phone.

Attacker causing emotional harm to my mate means I'm free to do whatever the hell I want to him.

I hate this pussification of america. I really, really do.
Emotional harm? :laugh: Talk about pussification.

The guy tried to kiss her. LOL
 

Garet Jax

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: spidey07
What part of "she was in danger" isn't quite sinking in?

The problem is he knew she wasn't in danger anymore, because until he pulled up to the apartment he was talking to her on the phone.

Attacker causing emotional harm to my mate means I'm free to do whatever the hell I want to him.

I hate this pussification of america. I really, really do.

Do you know how much more difficult it is to want to hit someone, but not to because it is the right thing to do. Pussification my ass.
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
No, they are two separate cases.

His GF can file for sexual harassment if she wants to. But the assault wasn't in defense because it already occurred, and was thus premeditated.
Still it was the right thing to do. Good work, OP. :beer: