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Question Broadband Aggregator BA-4000

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Viper1j

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A client gave me this (Turns out it's 1400.00 new!)

As I understand it, if I have 2 active modems, provisioned for 350mbps each, plugging them into this, and my router (Cisco EA-2700) into the lan port, I should get a rate of 700 MBps. But I'm not getting over 375.

What am I doing wrong/missing?
 
mxnerd

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Your ISP does not support anything above 350Mbps using one modem?

Load balancing also doesn't work if you are downloading one big file from a single site since each port gets its own IP.
 
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Viper1j

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I know why..

I need to disconnect the BA-4000. Give me 15 minutes and try again.

Try it now. I can get a more stable connection, but I haven't been able to double my speed.
 
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For some unknown reasons most user are under the impression that they can buy "magical gizmos", and everything will work well.


All of these Gizmos depend also on the type of Internet, on more than one external internet connection (not just connection to Modems to the same account), and other in and out Network variables.
Quote:""2 active modems, provisioned for 350mbps each”.

These modems are connected to what? One account, two independent accounts, two independent ISPs, or just "God generous intentions?


:cool:
 
mxnerd

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The name already tells you it's load balancing, not channel bonding.

Let's say your load balacing router does get firmware update after it's released and totally supports up to 350Mbps now.

It's like you have a Faralli it's max speed is 350 miles/hr, now the road has been expanded to two lines. Each Faralli can carry 4 persons.

Now you can drive 2 Farallis at the same time by different people, yet the max speed will not increase to 750miles/hr, only the total load increased to 8 persons.

You only benefits load balancing when you download multiple files with multiple clients or processes. Either same machine or different machines.

File can't be splitted between different channels, period. You can't expect to download one 20GB file that will be splitted on the internet and combined automatically at your PC.

Speedtest sites use multiple files download to test your speed and those files probably will be downloaded using different channels, you will get a wrong impression that your channels were combined.

help.speedtest.net

How does Speedtest measure my network speeds?

Speedtest.net operates mainly over TCP testing with a HTTP fallback for maximum compatibility. Speedtest.net measures ping (latency), download speed and upload speed. TCP Test Components Latency...
help.speedtest.net help.speedtest.net
 
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Viper1j

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mxnerd said:
You can't expect to download one 20GB file that will be splitted on the internet and combined automatically at your PC.
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Huh?

EVERYTHING on the internet is split. It's called "packets".
 
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Viper1j said:
Huh?

EVERYTHING on the internet is split. It's called "packets".
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Hahaha. It's splitted but needs to be arrived at the same destinain IP and be reassembled at your device in the correct order. You have 2 modem and that's 2 IP addresses.

If you are torrenting 20GB file, that's a different story, since the file is splitted between uploaders and the file chunks can arrive at different IP addresses on your router.

You want a bonded channel? You need to call your ISP to set it up for you.
 
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Viper1j said:
I know why..

I need to disconnect the BA-4000. Give me 15 minutes and try again.

Try it now. I can get a more stable connection, but I haven't been able to double my speed.
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Got them! I'm looking over them right now...

Okay, found it! Under Routing/Load Balancer-->Load Balance you need to change 'Failover Only' to 'Load Balance & Failover'. This should allow both wans to work when you're hammering on it like during a speed test. I would recommend trying the dslreports speedtest even though it has been working horribly lately due to overcongestion. Still, it's the best way I've found to accurately test multi-wan setup total bandwidth (when it is working correctly).

The other thing to do is do it the old fashioned way we used to do it and run simultaneous speed tests and add up the results. As long as they all start and end around the same time, you should be able to sum the parts for a decently good idea if the load balancing is working or not. Usually the best way to do this is a couple of different systems on the network so there's no issues on an individual system and it's a pure network test.
 
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Viper1j

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SamirD said:
Got them! I'm looking over them right now...

Okay, found it! Under Routing/Load Balancer-->Load Balance you need to change 'Failover Only' to 'Load Balance & Failover'. This should allow both wans to work when you're hammering on it like during a speed test. I would recommend trying the dslreports speedtest even though it has been working horribly lately due to overcongestion. Still, it's the best way I've found to accurately test multi-wan setup total bandwidth (when it is working correctly).

The other thing to do is do it the old fashioned way we used to do it and run simultaneous speed tests and add up the results. As long as they all start and end around the same time, you should be able to sum the parts for a decently good idea if the load balancing is working or not. Usually the best way to do this is a couple of different systems on the network so there's no issues on an individual system and it's a pure network test.
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Thanks! I owe you a pizza. :D

As soon as it's safe to eat food you didn't cook. PC (Post Covid)
 
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