British moneteary units

NogginBoink

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Okay, I'm reading this book set in Victorian England. And they're talking shillings, guineas, quid, pounds, and whatnot.

What's the relationship between all these units? It'd sure help me understand this book better.

Thanks!
 

Haircut

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1 quid = 1 pound

In those days 240 pence in 1 pound.
12 pence in a shilling.
20 shillings in a pound.
1 crown was 5 shillings.
Sixpence was half a shilling.
A guinea is a pound and a shilling.

Also, there's a link here
 

Rallispec

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pounds are like dollars, only not as good

are guineas and quids even used anymore?
 

Cyberian

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Originally posted by: Haircut
1 quid = 1 pound

In those days 240 pence in 1 pound.
12 pence in a shilling.
20 shillings in a pound.
1 crown was 5 shillings.
Sixpence was half a shilling.
A guinea is a pound and a shilling.

Also, there's a link here
I could just see the average McD cashier try to make change without the computer built into the register!

 

eplebnista

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Originally posted by: Cyberian
Originally posted by: Haircut
1 quid = 1 pound

In those days 240 pence in 1 pound.
12 pence in a shilling.
20 shillings in a pound.
1 crown was 5 shillings.
Sixpence was half a shilling.
A guinea is a pound and a shilling.

Also, there's a link here
I could just see the average McD cashier try to make change without the computer built into the register!

:D
 

Zepper

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"Better to remain silent and be thought a dunce than to shout out and remove all doubt."
. "pounds are like dollars, only not as good." Well, British pounds are worth ~$1.50 US... Guinea isn't used much, but quid is still common parlance.
.bh.
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bizmark

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Originally posted by: Haircut
1 quid = 1 pound

In those days 240 pence in 1 pound.
12 pence in a shilling.
20 shillings in a pound.
1 crown was 5 shillings.
Sixpence was half a shilling.
A guinea is a pound and a shilling.

Also, there's a link here

gaaah! head hurts! too many units! Must... make... table...

1 pound
=240 pence
=40 sixpence
=20 shillings
=4 crowns
=20/21 guineas

right?
 

PsychoAndy

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Originally posted by: Rallispec
pounds are like dollars, only not as good

are guineas and quids even used anymore?

what

i'd rather take 1,000,000 pounds than 1,000,000 dollars. just because the queen or random british figure is on it doesn't make it that bad.
 

Haircut

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Originally posted by: bizmark
Originally posted by: Haircut
1 quid = 1 pound

In those days 240 pence in 1 pound.
12 pence in a shilling.
20 shillings in a pound.
1 crown was 5 shillings.
Sixpence was half a shilling.
A guinea is a pound and a shilling.

Also, there's a link here

gaaah! head hurts! too many units! Must... make... table...

1 pound
=240 pence
=40 sixpence
=20 shillings
=4 crowns
=20/21 guineas

right?

You got that bit right, but if you want to be comprehensive then you must include

farthings (4 in a penny)
ha'pennys (2 in a penny)
thruppenny bits (3 pence)
florins (2 shillings)
and ten-bob notes (10 shillings)

:D

 

Zepper

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Here's something I found while looking for references - hope some of you find it interesting.

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Re: British slang - amounts of cash
Posted by TheFallen on June 17, 2002 at 23:46:29:
In Reply to: Re: British slang - amounts of cash posted by Barney on June 17, 2002 at 14:23:04:

: : Related to the posts on slang terms for money below, there's some weird British slang terms for monetary amounts, usually related to the world of gambling. I have no idea why many of these originated, but ones I can recall are (with origins if I know them):-

: : Quid - 1 pound (Often argued about and featured in the archives. I plump for the "quid pro quo" origin).

: : Smacker and Nicker - Both meaning 1 pound (???).

: : Isaac - 1 pound (From the figure of Isaac Newton depicted on the now discontinued one pound note).

: : Bottle - 2 pounds (Rhyming slang from bottle of glue, I am assured).

: : Carpet - 3 pounds (no idea).

: : Lady Godiva - 5 pounds (Rhyming slang for fiver, and mentioned below).

: : Duke - Also 5 pounds ((From the figure of the Duke of Wellington depicted on the older style discontinued five pound note).

: : Ayrton Senna - 10 pounds (Rhyming slang for tenner, and mentioned below. There's an alternate piece of rhyming slang, I am next to certain, but have forgotten it).

: : Score - 20 pounds (Seems obvious).

: : Pony - 25 pounds (No clue).

: : Half a ton / A ton - 50 and 100 pounds respectively (No idea as to why).

: : Monkey - 500 pounds (huh?).

: : Grand - 1,000 pounds (Probably US, but why "grand"?).

: : Large One - 1,000 pounds (British version of the grand, maybe?).

: : Cecil B - 1,000 pounds but sometimes 1,000,000 pounds (Either way, from Cecil B. de Mille).

: : Can anyone help with the missing origins, or correct any errors?

: Some of these look genuine but others have a slightly bogus feel about them:

: I suspect the following aren't kosher:

: Large One - usually applied to a double measure of spirit in a pub

: Cecil B - didn't he make films, or is it movies?
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: Duke - usually applied to John Wayne

: Carpet - usually applied to a badly fitted hair piece.

: Bottle - alcohol fired courage usually demonstrated after football matches.

: Isaac - When I was very very young I remember a rag and bone man in Stephney who had a tired old horse named Isaac. Other than that...

All the above terms were in relatively common usage in the pubs, bars and snooker clubs of South West London, where a small part of my youth was tempoarily misspent. I'm pretty sure that there's a London regionality to most of them.

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P.S. Possible?? Re. "Cecil B" - Mille is a thousand in Italian ref. "Mille Miglia" (famous 1000 mi. Italian road race).bh.
:cool:
 

Cyberian

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You got that bit right, but if you want to be comprehensive then you must include

farthings (4 in a penny)
ha'pennys (2 in a penny)
thruppenny bits (3 pence)
florins (2 shillings)
and ten-bob notes (10 shillings)

:D
How about "tuppence"?
:)
 

B00ne

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Originally posted by: Haircut
1 quid = 1 pound

In those days 240 pence in 1 pound.
12 pence in a shilling.
20 shillings in a pound.
1 crown was 5 shillings.
Sixpence was half a shilling.
A guinea is a pound and a shilling.

Also, there's a link here

holy sh1t this is just as confusing as those weird units they are for everything else (gal./oz....) - those island monkeys :-D