Bridge camera: fujifilm SX200EXR, why do I see no reviews?

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It's said to be all but a DSLR in terms of picture quality, has RAW, hot shoe, ~15 optical zoom, new sensor, manual zoom (which strikes me as a good thing). Anyone have an opinion on this?
 

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OK, I guess part of the problem is that the camera was misrepresented in the review I linked. It's really a FUJIFILM FINEPIX S200 EXR. Not SX200EXR.
 

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If you're going to put down $400-500 for a large megazoom point and shoot I suggest that you look into entry-level DSLRs instead. The Fuji may have good image quality for a point and shoot, but it sill will not hold a candle to even the cheapest DSLRs like the Canon Rebel XS or Nikon D40 in terms of image quality (especially at high ISO, which you need for low light shooting).

The Fuji has a 1/1.6" sensor, which has an area of about 50 mm^2. A DSLR like the Canon XS or Nikon D40 have sensors about 7 times as large. This huge difference is what gives DSLRs the advantage in image quality.

As far as size goes, the Fuji S200 is a pretty large camera for a point and shoot, so something like a XS or D40 isn't really that much bigger at all. And as far as cost goes, the S200 seems to go for around $500 at most large retailers, which I think is far too much to pay for a non-DSLR.

These days, I've seen the Canon Rebel XS kit with both the 18-55 IS and 55-250mm IS lenses go for ~$500 on sites like Slickdeals. Those two lenses will give you the equivalent of a 28-400mm zoom range (or a "14x" zoom in point and shoot terms). If you need more coverage, you have the full line of Canon lenses to choose from, ranging from 10mm to 1200mm and everything in between. The XS also gives you a much more extensive degree of manual control should you choose to delve deeper into serious photography. If not, you can always just leave it on full auto and simply enjoy the better image quality of a DSLR.
 
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Thanks for this info. I read customer reviews that said the IQ was on a par with entry level DSLRs, but I was skeptical, and your saying that the sensors on those are 7x larger would seem to confirm that! It's a big camera (29 oz, I think), so it's actually heavier than a lot of DSLRs. Haven't seen one yet. I like the manual zoom concept. I was thinking maybe to get something like the Panasonic FZ35 (I guess it's at the top of my list right now), and look around for a used entry level DSLR later so I can get some real idea of what a DSLR has to offer. I know that a lot of times a DSLR, bag, etc. will be a lot of stuff to lug around and I'll want a P&S, but right now I have no real concept of why a DSLR is better. I need to find out for myself.

Funny thing is I was researching the S200EXR two nights ago online and saw it for $410 shipped at Amazon, but last night they made you put it in your cart to see the price and it was $495! :eek:
 
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Thanks for this info. I read customer reviews that said the IQ was on a par with entry level DSLRs, but I was skeptical, and your saying that the sensors on those are 7x larger would seem to confirm that! It's a big camera (29 oz, I think), so it's actually heavier than a lot of DSLRs. Haven't seen one yet. I like the manual zoom concept. I was thinking maybe to get something like the Panasonic FZ35 (I guess it's at the top of my list right now), and look around for a used entry level DSLR later so I can get some real idea of what a DSLR has to offer. I know that a lot of times a DSLR, bag, etc. will be a lot of stuff to lug around and I'll want a P&S, but right now I have no real concept of why a DSLR is better. I need to find out for myself.

Funny thing is I was researching the S200EXR two nights ago online and saw it for $410 shipped at Amazon, but last night they made you put it in your cart to see the price and it was $495! :eek:

A DSLR can be a lot to carry around, but only if you want to carry a lot of stuff around. Right now, I carry my 40D with a battery grip, 2 lenses, and a flash, but if you want a versatile DSLR kit without carrying a ton of stuff, then you can always go for a lens like an 18-135mm or even 18-270mm, which are "jack of all trades" lenses. Carrying around an external flash isn't strictly necessary, nor are carrying other things like an off-camera cord. Those are things you may find useful as you learn more about photography, but if you just want to do some simple shooting just the camera and a lens or two are fine.

The beauty of a DSLR is that you can configure it to your needs before you head out. For example, if you're going to the zoo and want to take pictures of animals from a distance, you can put a 70-200mm or 55-250mm zoom on your camera. If you're going to be taking pictures in low light, a lens like the 50mm f/1.4 will let you get by without a flash even in very dark conditions.

Another good thing about DSLRs is that the image quality isn't drastically different between the cheapest $500 model and a $1000 or even $1500 model. Short of $2000+ full-frame cameras, most APS-C DSLRs (Canon XS, XSi, 50D, Nikon D40, D300, etc) have similar image quality and ISO noise levels. The more expensive cameras have fancier autofocus systems, magnesium bodies, etc, but the most important part of a camera-its sensor, is not hugely different between the cheapest DSLRs and midrange DSLRs. As an example, the Nikon D5000 actually uses the same sensor as the Nikon D90 and D300, and the Canon T1i actually uses the same sensor as the EOS 50D.

Most entry level DSLR kits come with two lenses. For the Canon XS and XSi, they are the 18-55mm IS and 55-250mm IS. Neither of these lenses is particularly heavy, so carrying both around isn't much of an issue. Both have image stabilization for non-blurry pictures even at slow shutter speeds.

I don't think you should let the choices in lenses intimidate you. There may be hundreds to choose from, but you only really need two or three to cover most shooting needs. Carrying those around shouldn't be too bad.

With the prices of new DSLRs as low as they are now (well under $500 for a camera with a 1 lens kit, around $500 for a 2 lens kit!), you should definitely give them a serious look over the megazoom point and shoots.
 
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Thank you for this great info. When I started my quest for a camera that would enable me to transcend the experience I'm getting with my Samsung Digimax V3 3.2 MP 2xAA cell camera, which is unfortunately very slow, Elfenix in a thread plugged DSLRs, period. I'll reevaluate my thinking here. I know for certain that I want a DSLR some time soon. Just wasn't sure if I shouldn't get a more capable P&S first. I think I may get a DSLR next instead.