Brick & Mortar movie rental places are so complete fugged.

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It's been obvious that with Netflix leading the way Block buster and Movie Gallery brick and mortars were looking down a barrel. Personally, I've seen it accelerated locally with the Redbox.com boxes at my grocery store (love it). I went into an MG a couple months ago for a movie and it was totally empty and so sad that the manager called us the next day welcoming us as members. I damn near shot myself, that is just depressing.

Well, now with the xbox 360 and netflix offering a lot of movies with good access in living rooms it's just a matter of time before there are a whole whack of options and the new movies are there. Movie Gallery and Blockbuster have been seriously hurting, but I think that within a year they will be almost completely fvcked. Who's going to pay $5 for a movie for five nights instead of either free or a buck or two and potentially not even having to get off their ass to drive a disc around?
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: Skoorb Who's going to pay $5 for a movie for five nights instead of either free or a buck or two and potentially not even having to get off their ass to drive a disc around?

People who want high-quality HD and either can't get or don't want to pay for a sufficient broadband connection?
 

Genx87

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Brick and Mortar movie rental places are the video arcades of the 2000's.

When the internet brewed up in the mid to late 90's. They had to know their time was coming. Just like video arcades did when Nintendo showed up with the NES and Sega with the Master System.
 

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Perhaps the government should put together a bailout package for the B&M movie rental industry.
 

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: Skoorb Who's going to pay $5 for a movie for five nights instead of either free or a buck or two and potentially not even having to get off their ass to drive a disc around?

People who want high-quality HD and either can't get or don't want to pay for a sufficient broadband connection?
That's it? HD is already available with some of these movies, so I suppose surround sound is the only missing factor, but a person who laments non-surround HD's shortcomings is not likely to be a person who doesn't have broadband; I think you're talking about a tiny segment. My point being, the consumer destruction block and movie have seen is going to accelerate at a breahtaking pace. I think that a year from now they will be small skeletons of their former selves, insofar as their brick and mortar is concerned.

 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: Skoorb Who's going to pay $5 for a movie for five nights instead of either free or a buck or two and potentially not even having to get off their ass to drive a disc around?

People who want high-quality HD and either can't get or don't want to pay for a sufficient broadband connection?

Netflix can send you a disc if you want.
 

TallBill

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Good, I'd rather pay people to work at distribution and delivery warehouses then the morons that work at video stores. I worked at a Hollywood Video a long time ago that ran great, but the entire rental process was still a crapload easier online.
 

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: Skoorb Who's going to pay $5 for a movie for five nights instead of either free or a buck or two and potentially not even having to get off their ass to drive a disc around?

People who want high-quality HD and either can't get or don't want to pay for a sufficient broadband connection?

Well there's that, and if I want a couple of DVD's for a cross country trip in a plane, or for the kids to be able to watch something for a car trip. There' s no better babysitter in the car than a DVD player.

I probably could have saved myself some ass whuppings for fighting with my brother in the car if they'd only had DVD players in the 60's.

 

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yes, they are screwed, and with time they will be completely wiped out if they don't strategize and update their business model
 

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Originally posted by: jemcam
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: Skoorb Who's going to pay $5 for a movie for five nights instead of either free or a buck or two and potentially not even having to get off their ass to drive a disc around?

People who want high-quality HD and either can't get or don't want to pay for a sufficient broadband connection?

Well there's that, and if I want a couple of DVD's for a cross country trip in a plane, or for the kids to be able to watch something for a car trip. There' s no better babysitter in the car than a DVD player.

I probably could have saved myself some ass whuppings for fighting with my brother in the car if they'd only had DVD players in the 60's.
Yep, that is a god-send, but none of this is going to keep a retail business afloat on the side of a strip mall; they have salaries to pay, utility bills, rent and taxes. Compare to a warehouse in an industrial park. The volume just isn't there. That movie gallery by my house (actually several miles away; the Blockbuster closed up a year ago, despite being on an extremely heavy-traffic corner) is more depressing than a cancer ward.
 

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Originally posted by: Dear Summer
yes, they are screwed, and with time they will be completely wiped out if they don't strategize and update their business model
What can they do? Blockbuster tried to compete with netflix, but online just pulls it out harder from under them.

 

DomS

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Originally posted by: Dear Summer
yes, they are screwed, and with time they will be completely wiped out if they don't strategize and update their business model

Exactly. I predicted several years ago that Blockbuster would start offering movies streaming online via broadband, adopt a netflix type model, or something else along those lines. They haven't.

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: Skoorb Who's going to pay $5 for a movie for five nights instead of either free or a buck or two and potentially not even having to get off their ass to drive a disc around?

People who want high-quality HD and either can't get or don't want to pay for a sufficient broadband connection?

Well in that case you can go with Red Box. 1 buck for a friday in with my gf? Sounds good to me.
 

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Dear Summer
yes, they are screwed, and with time they will be completely wiped out if they don't strategize and update their business model
What can they do? Blockbuster tried to compete with netflix, but online just pulls it out harder from under them.

Blockbuster introduced their own online service that works with a set-top box similar to the one Roku offers. The difference is that it is more of a PPV model but includes new releases.
 

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I only wished Netflix would have designed their Roku box to work at a minimum of 768kbps speeds like the Watch Now section of their website does and I would have picked one up already.
 

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Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Dear Summer
yes, they are screwed, and with time they will be completely wiped out if they don't strategize and update their business model
What can they do? Blockbuster tried to compete with netflix, but online just pulls it out harder from under them.

Blockbuster introduced their own online service that works with a set-top box similar to the one Roku offers. The difference is that it is more of a PPV model but includes new releases.
I didn't know that. i didn't know until a week ago that netflix was offering movies online. I am shamefully out of touch but I can only imagine many others are, too. It's time for some marketing :)

 

xanis

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Dear Summer
yes, they are screwed, and with time they will be completely wiped out if they don't strategize and update their business model
What can they do? Blockbuster tried to compete with netflix, but online just pulls it out harder from under them.

AFAIK, Blockbuster lacks online content streaming, so implementing that would be a start. Also, a system that gives people the option to drop off discs at their local store would probably help them and give them a bit of an edge.

EDIT: Never mind, it looks like Blockbuster does in fact have a stream system.
 

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Dear Summer
yes, they are screwed, and with time they will be completely wiped out if they don't strategize and update their business model
What can they do? Blockbuster tried to compete with netflix, but online just pulls it out harder from under them.

Blockbuster introduced their own online service that works with a set-top box similar to the one Roku offers. The difference is that it is more of a PPV model but includes new releases.
I didn't know that. i didn't know until a week ago that netflix was offering movies online. I am shamefully out of touch but I can only imagine many others are, too. It's time for some marketing :)

Here is an article on the Blockbuster service and set-top box.

Escalating stakes in the burgeoning streaming market, Blockbuster Nov. 25 unveiled a broadband set-top box that allows users to watch video-on-demand (VOD) movies from the Internet on the television.

For a limited time, the MediaPoint player, manufactured by 2Wire, is available for free with the advance rental of 25 first-run movies, TV shows, foreign or classic films from Blockbuster On-Demand (previously Movielink) for $99.

Subsequent rentals are priced from $1.99 each, and usage of the device, which measures 8? x 8? x 1,? includes Wi-Fi wireless and Ethernet connections and supports high-definition video via HDMI cable, does not require a Blockbuster subscription.

The box is available online at Blockbuster.com and at select Blockbuster stores.

?We are bringing Blockbuster and thousands of movies in our digital library straight to customers? TVs,? said Jim Keyes, chairman and CEO of Blockbuster in a statement.

Mentioned earlier this month in Dallas-based Blockbuster?s third quarter financial call, the player is positioned as direct competition in the burgeoning slate of devices, including Netflix?s proprietary streaming device from Roku, launched in May.

The market for set-top devices, fueled by the conversion to digital broadcasts and IPTV, among other factors, is slated to peak at around 110 million unit shipments annually by 2012, according ABI Research.

Netflix licenses its streaming technology to Blu-ray players manufactured by LG and Samsung, as well as Microsoft?s Xbox 360 and TiVo?s broadband digital video recorder.

Sonic Solutions last week acquired movie download service CinemaNow, which it plans to incorporate in both proprietary and third-party media players.

Netflix spokesperson Steve Swasey said the online DVD rental pioneer had no direct comment about the Blockbuster box.

He reiterated that Netflix has relationships with five set-top box manufacturers and is working on others.

?Our goal is to be ubiquitous and not just a Netflix box,? Swasey said. ?We think the best thing for consumers is to have a choice.?

Jonathan Symonds, VP, product management and marketing media, with 2Wire, said Blockbuster?s a-la-carte approach to movie streams and the MediaPoint player?s two USB ports and SD card slot did not suggest an apples-to-apples comparison with the Netflix box.

?This is a different [streaming] model,? Symonds said. ?[Blockbuster is] going to learn this market better and this is the first step in that direction.?

He said launching the player in the midst of a severe economic downturn necessitated the introductory pricing plan.

?I think there is more risk at the higher end of the [consumer electronics] market than there is for a consumable impulse buy such as this,? Symonds said.

Independent analyst Rob Enderle with Enderle Group said the Blockbuster player, if marketed correctly, could be just what the market is looking for this Christmas.

?This isn?t a bad value and it provides a gift that falls within the $100 window for family purchases though, this year, that window may be much lower,? Enderle said. ?It?s the products that cost in excess of $300 where we are likely to see the market pull back.?
 

Shawn

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The movie gallery around here went out of business about 6 months ago.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: DomS
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: Skoorb Who's going to pay $5 for a movie for five nights instead of either free or a buck or two and potentially not even having to get off their ass to drive a disc around?

People who want high-quality HD and either can't get or don't want to pay for a sufficient broadband connection?

Well in that case you can go with Red Box. 1 buck for a friday in with my gf? Sounds good to me.

RedBox has Blu-Ray?
 

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I'm still amazed that the local stores here only rent Fullscreen DVDs, and are always busy.