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Originally posted by: lordtyranus

And his national poll has Bush up 48-47. Mathematically, there is no way Bush could be losing EVERY swing state and still be up in the nationwide poll.

LOL - discuss that line of argument with your statistics professor when you go to college and see what he thinks.
 

tnitsuj

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I thought they weren't going to do this anymore. I am on the West Coast right now flying back east in a few hours and I can see news like this keeping people from coming out to vote.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
This sucks because like DonVito said, some people are just going to go "fvck it". And WTF is up with that PA pole? 60-40? No way is it that clear cut, that states been up in the air for awhile.
Because the polls we've been seeing aren't taking into account the newly registered voters or the youth who typically are cell-phone only.
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: PingSpikeWTF is up with that PA pole? 60-40? No way is it that clear cut, that states been up in the air for awhile.

it's way too early to call, but don't forget about the tons of liberal colleges in PA. if all the college students registered to vote in PA instead of their home state, I think they'd have the weight to swing the state over to Kerry's side.
 

rickn

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Originally posted by: tnitsuj
I thought they weren't going to do this anymore. I am on the West Coast right now flying back east in a few hours and I can see news like this keeping people from coming out to vote.

I doubt it will stop many ppl from voting. Most ppl aren't online paying any attention to it. They are wrapped up doing their jobs, and hit the polls either early this morning before work after they get off work
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: PingSpike
This sucks because like DonVito said, some people are just going to go "fvck it". And WTF is up with that PA pole? 60-40? No way is it that clear cut, that states been up in the air for awhile.
Because the polls we've been seeing aren't taking into account the newly registered voters or the youth who typically are cell-phone only.

Yes, I realize that...and I figured Kerry would win the state. I just thought it would be closer. I mean, its not like 100% of people with cell phones are Democrats.

Either way, I'm happy if I'm wrong on that number.
 

rickn

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: PingSpikeWTF is up with that PA pole? 60-40? No way is it that clear cut, that states been up in the air for awhile.

it's way too early to call, but don't forget about the tons of liberal colleges in PA. if all the college students registered to vote in PA instead of their home state, I think they'd have the weight to swing the state over to Kerry's side.

Blame it on Teresa Heinz-Kerry. She casted her vote and it counted it 10,000 times :D
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: rickn
Originally posted by: tnitsuj
I thought they weren't going to do this anymore. I am on the West Coast right now flying back east in a few hours and I can see news like this keeping people from coming out to vote.

I doubt it will stop many ppl from voting. Most ppl aren't online paying any attention to it. They are wrapped up doing their jobs, and hit the polls either early this morning before work after they get off work

yup. I just got back from my parents' house. they both had the day off. my mom is watching Jerry Springer, and my dad is doing yard work. I think that's a pretty good example of what most people are doing today.

not everyone is a freak like us P&N'ers who are getting real-time poll updates over rss feed :D
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: tnitsuj
I thought they weren't going to do this anymore. I am on the West Coast right now flying back east in a few hours and I can see news like this keeping people from coming out to vote.
This is not actual ballot reporting, just private polling of random people as they leave their voting place.

What you are thinking of (I think) is back in '80 and '84 when the east coast states revealed their actual ballot counts at 8pm EST showing a landslide to Reagan. As it was still 5pm PST, a lot of west coasters heard the news on the radio and decided not to bother with voting. That should not happen this year, and despite tense pressure to know the results, I believe and hope that we will not hear any actual ballot counts until 8pm PST tonight (11pm EST), and the whole nation will get a chance to vote.
 

chess9

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I wouldn't rely on exit polling. We have dreadful reports every election. Please, don't even go there....

I can't believe the Pennsylvania numbers either. They must be in downtown Philly. :)

Florida is looking more realistic.

-Robert
 

conjur

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With apologies to Ryan Adams, U2, and The Corrs


Votin' where the states vote blue
Votin' where the evening fell
Votin' in your wooden shoes
In a wedding gown

Votin' out on 7th street
Votin' through the underground
Votin' little marionette
Are you happy now?

Where do you vote when you're happy
Where do you vote when you're blue
Where do you vote when you're happy
I'll follow you
When the states vote blue, blue
When the states vote blue, blue
When the states vote blue, blue
When the states vote blue

Laughing with your pretty mouth
Laughing with your broken eyes
Laughing with your lover's tongue
In a lullaby

Where do you vote when you're happy
Where do you vote when you're blue
Where do you vote when you're happy
I'll follow you
When the states vote blue, blue
When the states vote blue, blue
When the states, when the states vote blue, blue
When the states vote blue
When the states go blue, blue, blue
States go blue
When the states go blue

Where do you vote when you're happy
Where do you vote when you're blue, yeah
Where do you vote when you're happy
I'll follow you, I'll follow you, I'll follow you
I'll follow you, I'll follow you, yeah
Where do you vote, yeah
Where do you vote, where do you vote




:D
 

mflacy

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"Serious news will not appear first on the DRUDGE gossip website," senior Kerry adviser Joe Lockhart told reporters.

LMAO, I bet the Kerry Camp is now sending all kinds of love to Drudge's "gossip" website even if the poll is 59 - 41 women to men.
 

KELBOY

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a little early but the
Redskins did lose!!!!
so its possible!!!
no "W".no"w"...
 

NL5

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Originally posted by: Vic
I believe and hope that we will not hear any actual ballot counts until 8pm PST tonight (11pm EST), and the whole nation will get a chance to vote.


What about Hawaii?
 

rahvin

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I've been thinking for over a month that the pre-election polls were going to be wrong and that this is going to become another one of statistics big failures. The problem is most of the polls you hear on the news are "likely" voters, as a matter of course the youth vote is thrown out of the voter poll.

In this election I think that is what is going to throw the polling results, when they do the numbers on all voters and not just "likely" voters Kerry wins and I really do believe that the kids are going to be out in force this year voting. There has simply been to much motivation for them this year, especially with the perception among the young that the draft will be reinstated.
 

Hammer

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Originally posted by: NL5
Originally posted by: Vic
I believe and hope that we will not hear any actual ballot counts until 8pm PST tonight (11pm EST), and the whole nation will get a chance to vote.


What about Hawaii?

hawaii closes their polls at the same time as cali
 

chess9

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Rahvin:

We were instructed at 11 this a.m. to focus all our phone calls on new voters (mostly young) and women. The kids are breaking for Kerry by about 15% and the women are breaking for Kerry by a slightly smaller percentage.

Bush is getting the older male vote. My generation.

-Robert