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[purbeast0]

yeah the cowboys getting away from the run game is mind boggling. i mean murray averaged over 7 yards a carry last night. the skins just executed their gameplan better and that is why they came out on top. they knew they had to keep the ball out of the offenses hand, and keep the defense on the field, and the TOP was 2:1 in the skins favor.

 

[smackababy]

If Romo didn't like the matchup (note: this takes analytical ability), then call a TO and sort it out. If it's a stunt, then throw the ball away (unless blindside, nothing he can do). Romo had to know they were coming after him, one more bad hit and he's TKO'd. What DC wouldn't be salivating at the chance to do that? Call quick plays or run the ball, if you need a reference see Matt Ryan vs Detroit in the first half on Sunday. No, I'm not pinning it completely on Romo but he or the OC should have been calling quick plays, not holding onto the ball for deeper passes. Pure stupidity.

Call a TO when exactly? Right after they already called a TO? Since they ain't icing a kicker, that is illegal.

 

[akshatp]

Well i sure am glad i changed to KC in my survivor pool!! Down to 4 people vying for $12k.

Cincy at home against Jags, or Seattle at home against Raiders next week? If I take cincy this week, I can save Seattle for the Ginas at home the following week. Thoughts?

 

[smackababy]

Cincy or Seattle should be easy picks. Seattle against NY next week seems fairly safe as well, so I'd likely go with Cincy.

 

[Arkaign]

Well i sure am glad i changed to KC in my survivor pool!! Down to 4 people vying for $12k.

Cincy at home against Jags, or Seattle at home against Raiders next week? If I take cincy this week, I can save Seattle for the Ginas at home the following week. Thoughts?

CIN is awesome at home, so that seems smart.

 

[DrPizza]

I had a post that I typed for this thread, but think I decided not to post it. Someone earlier mentioned the Cowboys for their survivor pool. I was going to say, never bet on a Cowboys/Redskins game. No matter how much one team sucks (1-15 1989 Cowboys, whose only win was against the Redskins who should have coasted into the playoffs), there seems to be more unexpected outcomes in matchups.

 

[smackababy]

I had a post that I typed for this thread, but think I decided not to post it. Someone earlier mentioned the Cowboys for their survivor pool. I was going to say, never bet on a Cowboys/Redskins game. No matter how much one team sucks (1-15 1989 Cowboys, whose only win was against the Redskins who should have coasted into the playoffs), there seems to be more unexpected outcomes in matchups.

The NFC East reminds me of the Derbies in the BPL (English Soccer League). Rivals, usually from the same city, play each other twice a year and regardless of how well you are doing in the season, the outcome of those games are far more important. A team can win few games, but if they sweep their derby, they are happy. The NFC East is very similar. The Redskins are done for the season, but if they manage to beat the NFC teams once or twice, they will be happy.

 

[ElFenix]

There's no blueprint to stop Dallas' run game. Dallas beat themselves by not running the ball and allowing choke-happy Romo to decide the game. I will never understand why OC's don't keep running the ball when they are consistently getting huge gains and winning the trenches. It's the same shit that the Vikings did earlier in the year when Asiata was chunking Green Bay to death and they decided to throw with Christian Ponder. smh

because you have to have balance on offense otherwise you can't win

 

[smackababy]

because you have to have balance on offense otherwise you can't win

Are you trying to imply that you can't possibly run 60 plays in a game, all of them a run play by the same back? Unpossible!

 

[Phoenix86]

Dallas beat themselves by not running the ball and allowing choke-happy Romo to decide the game.

So let me get this straight. Dallas lost because they put in "choke-happy" Romo. Why wouldn't they put their starting QB in?

At that point, the OC should have realized that he's not all there from his injury and just pound the ball with Murray. That didn't happen.

Oh, he shouldn't have been in because he's injured. OK, that's reasonable. But then you say..

Call a TO or throw the ball away. Romo and the OC had to know they were coming at him after coming back in injured.

If Romo didn't like the matchup (note: this takes analytical ability), then call a TO and sort it out. If it's a stunt, then throw the ball away (unless blindside, nothing he can do).

Are you even following your own "logic" here?

Romo's injury from knee to the back was so severe it caused him to lose his analytical ability? He shouldn't have been in the game because a bruise to the lower back made him not expect a blitz, then not pick it up.

You sure you are just bagging on Romo? Are you really sure??

You mention several times the play calling, the OC, the ways to avoid a blitz. This is why the coaches failed and the team lost. If you want to bag on players, I'd look a little more closely at that sieve of an O line last night. Teams blitz, you have to give the QB protection. 5 sacks.

 

[Phoenix86]

because you have to have balance on offense otherwise you can't win

If a team can't stop your run, why do anything else? Murray was averaging 7.4/carry, and the play selection was 28-23 pass, so if anything a few more runs would have been balanced.

Are you trying to imply that you can't possibly run 60 plays in a game, all of them a run play by the same back? Unpossible!

Except it was only 19, 25 total touches with the receptions. There are other DBs who can walk a ball through an 8' hole and still get positive yardage.

 

[Arkaign]

Yep, it's insane that they didn't keep the balance 55-45 Run/Pass or even 60/40.

Particularly on short yardage, they kept trying passes for high risk and no payoff. The three passes in a row on short yardage in OT was beyond puzzling, it was :

THE WORST COACHING OF THE YEAR IN THE NFL. PERIOD.

Edit : I'll go one further. It's GOOD that they lost in such a clear and bungled manner. There's no ignoring the mistakes in coaching and play selection that cost them this game. If they had somehow picked up the downs on those idiotic calls, they might have not gotten the point that the ENTIRE reason they won 6 games was they stuck to a solid plan of run-heavy offense behind the best offensive line in the league. Game one must have faded in their addled brains, because the ENTIRE reason they lost game one was almost a carbon copy of this : they abandoned a highly successful run game to try ill-advised passes. In SF, it was throws into heavy coverage in short yardage (hello INTs). Vs. Washington, it was throws with a banged up QB1 on short downs.

In both games, the O line and running back had proved they could make solid gains. In both games, the coaches and/or Romo decided not to persist with what worked, and try to force what would lead them to failure.

 

[smackababy]

If you want to bag on players, I'd look a little more closely at that sieve of an O line last night. Teams blitz, you have to give the QB protection. 5 sacks.

It wasn't the O Line, most of the time. A good amount of sacks were because the back missed the block, and it was usually Murray that missed it. On one, he happened to get a dump pass and get like 25 yards, but on quite a few, he simply missed the blitzer altogether and it was a free shot on Romo.

A big part of their loss was the playcalling though. Let's take that last series in OT. Dallas runs the ball for 8 yards on first down, great! The next play (2nd and 2), they believe Washington will play against the run, and go for a chunk yardage pass; however, Washington makes a brilliant call and doesn't play run, but blitzs on Romo, bad play. On 3rd and 2 there is no reason (considering it is 4 down territory anyway) that they shouldn't have gone with a run. Worst case scenario: they lose a yard or two and have a 4th and 5 and use a time out. Just bad playcalling all around, especially when you have 3 time outs. Get into field goal range before you start conserving clock going for the TD win.

 

[Arkaign]

Yep. The offensive line is 4 solid guys. They can't hold 8+ rushers by themselves. But when a team commits like that to rushing around the edges, you have the back stuffed up close and rip through center left or center right, or have the option to shovel off to a TE, or a dink/donk over the middle. Any way you cut it you have a two-step play at max planned. Not fall back and think about it, or fall back and try to get to the sideline. It's not a two minute drill.

Abominable play calling.

 

[purbeast0]

The NFC East reminds me of the Derbies in the BPL (English Soccer League). Rivals, usually from the same city, play each other twice a year and regardless of how well you are doing in the season, the outcome of those games are far more important. A team can win few games, but if they sweep their derby, they are happy. The NFC East is very similar. The Redskins are done for the season, but if they manage to beat the NFC teams once or twice, they will be happy.

not mathematically they are not!!!

if they run the table on the nfc east (about a .000001 percent chance) and then quite a bit of help from the eagles and cowboys losing enough (again, about a .0000001 percent chance) and then pulling another miracle run like in 2012 with RG3 coming back (also about a .0000000000000000001 percent chance) then there is still some hope!

 

[Arkaign]

Hahaha 🙂

If the Redskins think they can get away with those bring-the-house blitzes on a team with a coach that isn't a complete brainless fool, they'll get burned to the ground. One little pop over the middle to a TE on a 2-step drop and it's off to the races to the end zone with zero coverage all the way to 6.

Dallas coaching yesterday would have gotten laughed out of a kindergarten minigolf game, let alone an NFL team's sideline. Worst coaching of the year, and perhaps the century so far.

 

[Perknose]

not mathematically they are not!!!

if they run the table on the nfc east (about a .000001 percent chance) and then quite a bit of help from the eagles and cowboys losing enough (again, about a .0000001 percent chance) and then pulling another miracle run like in 2012 with RG3 coming back (also about a .0000000000000000001 percent chance) then there is still some hope!

:biggrin:

 

[purbeast0]

did anyone else find it ironic/amusing that during that stupid ass jerry jones interview in the middle of a fucking drive, that he was talking about how great the offensive line is for the team, then the next play romo got injured on a sack right up the gut of the o line?

i never like to see anyone get hurt, but the timing for that was just ironic as hell considering what jerruh had just talked about, and how stupid that mid-drive interview was.

 

[purbeast0]

Hahaha 🙂

If the Redskins think they can get away with those bring-the-house blitzes on a team with a coach that isn't a complete brainless fool, they'll get burned to the ground. One little pop over the middle to a TE on a 2-step drop and it's off to the races to the end zone with zero coverage all the way to 6.

Dallas coaching yesterday would have gotten laughed out of a kindergarten minigolf game, let alone an NFL team's sideline. Worst coaching of the year, and perhaps the century so far.

yeah but to be fair to the cowboys, the skins were bluffing basically 50% of the time. so it wasn't quite as clear and easy as you're making it sound.

 

[Perknose]

yeah but to be fair to the cowboys, the skins were bluffing basically 50% of the time. so it wasn't quite as clear and easy as you're making it sound.

Absolutely one of the reasons why when they did blitz it worked so well. Doesn't excuse the Boys from getting away from the run, especially at the end.

I think Jarrett assumed they wouldn't blitz but would fall back into medium prevent and that there would be opportunities underneath with the pass . . . which still doesn't excuse forsaking using DeMarco.

 

[purbeast0]

Absolutely one of the reasons why when they did blitz it worked so well. Doesn't excuse the Boys from getting away from the run, especially at the end.

I think Jarrett assumed they wouldn't blitz but would fall back into medium prevent and that there would be opportunities underneath with the pass . . . which still doesn't excuse forsaking using DeMarco.

yeah, i have no a clue why you wouldn't just keep feeding the ball to a guy who was averaging over 7 yards a carry and is the best running back by far this year. just baffles my mind why they would not literally run him every fucking play until it stopped working. i mean that is a first down every 2 downs ... why not do it lol.

 

[akshatp]

I had a post that I typed for this thread, but think I decided not to post it. Someone earlier mentioned the Cowboys for their survivor pool. I was going to say, never bet on a Cowboys/Redskins game. No matter how much one team sucks (1-15 1989 Cowboys, whose only win was against the Redskins who should have coasted into the playoffs), there seems to be more unexpected outcomes in matchups.

Which is part of the reason I went KC. I have been somewhat successful in my survivor pools the last few years because A) I stay away from division matchups and B) I try to stay away from road teams.

Lets go Bengals week 9!!!

 

[BUTCH1]

Hahaha 🙂

If the Redskins think they can get away with those bring-the-house blitzes on a team with a coach that isn't a complete brainless fool, they'll get burned to the ground. One little pop over the middle to a TE on a 2-step drop and it's off to the races to the end zone with zero coverage all the way to 6.

Dallas coaching yesterday would have gotten laughed out of a kindergarten minigolf game, let alone an NFL team's sideline. Worst coaching of the year, and perhaps the century so far.

Yea, gotta agree with that assessment, coaches are supposed to make adjustments to what the other team is doing and the delay blitz by a LB or safety is not exactly anything new to the league yet again and again Romo got pounded when the blitzer had an unimpeded path to the QB..

 

[smackababy]

Yea, gotta agree with that assessment, coaches are supposed to make adjustments to what the other team is doing and the delay blitz by a LB or safety is not exactly anything new to the league yet again and again Romo got pounded when the blitzer had an unimpeded path to the QB..

Except, Washington didn't blitz every play. So, when the Cowboys made the adjustments, Washington made the call to fall back into coverage and stuff the short routes pretty much at the perfect time. Washington was brilliant at disguising their blitzes. They lined up as if they were bringing everyone, Romo had to figure out if they were, or if they were going to drop into coverage for the underneath routes.

 

[Deeko]

Deeko's NFL prognostications are fearless. And like the NFL's equipment divison, Deeko has huge, if oddly shaped, balls.

In a forum where most of us (and I include myself in this) mostly wait up in the cheap seats to jump on others' mistakes , Deeko stands tall.

Many beers to Deeko, who has richly earned the right to highlight the fruits of his expertise. May women follow him home from the bar and offer themselves to him in moist appreciation. :thumbsup:

hear hear~!


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haha. Thanks fellas. Oddly shaped indeed!