Breaking news: Intelligence memo links Saddam, Osama

[XMan]

Weekly Standard's website is getting hammered, so here's a reprint at Fox News.

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[CaptnKirk]

Seeing that both FOX and Weakly Standard are 'In House Neo-con House Organs',
let's see what the less partisan news sources like Pravda or Socialist Worker's take on this is.

I'm sure that they get selectilvely leaked gospel truth too, don't you think ?

 

[tnitsuj]

Fox News will print stuff from the weekly standard?

 

[XMan]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Seeing that both FOX and Weakly Standard are 'In House Neo-con House Organs',
let's see what the less partisan news sources like Pravda or Socialist Worker's take on this is.

I'm sure that they get selectilvely leaked gospel truth too, don't you think ?

There was, as shown in the memo to the committee on which Levin serves. And much of the reporting comes from Clinton-era intelligence.

Oops. Care to try again?

 

[UltraQuiet]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Seeing that both FOX and Weakly Standard are 'In House Neo-con House Organs',
let's see what the less partisan news sources like Pravda or Socialist Worker's take on this is.

I'm sure that they get selectilvely leaked gospel truth too, don't you think ?

A search on Doug Feith may further confirm your suspicions.

 

[XMan]

Originally posted by: Ultra Quiet

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Seeing that both FOX and Weakly Standard are 'In House Neo-con House Organs',
let's see what the less partisan news sources like Pravda or Socialist Worker's take on this is.

I'm sure that they get selectilvely leaked gospel truth too, don't you think ?

A search on Doug Feith may further confirm your suspicions.

Well if you're focused specifically on the question of the links between the Saddam Hussein regime and al-Qaeda, people who do not see the link are just not familiar with the evidence, much of which we have in recent months talked about publicly. There have been linkages between the Iraqi government and al-Qaeda going back more or less a decade. They have involved co-operation between the Iraqi intelligence and al-Qaeda operatives on training and combined operations regarding bomb making and chemical and biological weapons. I'm not suggesting that the Iraqi regime was the principal state sponsor of al-Qaeda, it wasn't, that was the Taliban and there were important connections earlier with the Sudan but there are linkages and the Saddam Hussein regime has had linkages not only with al-Qaeda where high level people also were guests of the regime in Baghdad and guests to this day as Colin Powell recently discussed at in some detail at the United Nations but there are connections also between the Saddam Hussein regime and other terrorist organisations so the idea that that regime would make use of terrorist organisations is I think very well grounded in information that we know.

- Doug Feith

 

[tnitsuj]

Doug Feith is right up there with Wolfowitz and Perle/

 

[kage69]

*laughs at Pravda and 'news source' being used in the same sentence*

 

[CaptnKirk]

I'm just going to let this fester.

Weekly Standard as credible ? Only if you follow the extreme right wing of the party.
FOX ? Fair & Balanced - who you kidding ?
Pravda ? The mouthpeice of the Soviet Union during Regans era.
Socialist Worker ? - Just made that up, if it exists it's serendipity.

This memo basicaly takes the opposite side of all the verified inteligence data to date.
Who's trying to kid who ?

 

[Miramonti]

And the propaganda machine continues on all cylinders...

 

[sMiLeYz]

I'm waiting until the big L media confirms it, no the other L as in "legitamate".

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Legit enough?

This one?

AP and yahoo?

CNN?

Good enough for everyone?

CkG

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Legit enough?

This one?

AP and yahoo?

CNN?

Good enough for everyone?

CkG

Hey, where were your big guns the other night? Remember, you were posting links to "Shelly's house of magical stained glass" and calling it credible?

 

[SViscusi]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY


Good enough for everyone?

CkG

None of those confirm the Weekly Standards reporting of the contents of the memo. In fact they do the opposite

He added, however, that much of the material published by the Standard was raw intelligence reporting that in some cases "was questioned by other sources, comes from third countries that are not reliable or could not be verified."

He said the memo provided a list "and is not a new analysis or finding of any connection not previously existing."

In its Saturday release, the Pentagon took the unusual step of saying, "News reports that the Defense Department recently confirmed new information with respect to contacts between al Qaeda and Iraq . . . are inaccurate." The release also said the memo "was not an analysis of the substantive issue of the relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda and drew no conclusions."

W. Patrick Lang, former head of the Middle East section of the DIA, said yesterday that the Standard article "is a listing of a mass of unconfirmed reports, many of which themselves indicate that the two groups continued to try to establish some sort of relationship. If they had such a productive relationship, why did they have to keep trying?"

 

[DealMonkey]

Hmmm, a lot of "secret" memos being released lately. The memo is interesting, but brings up a number of questions. Am I to believe Feith had all this alleged evidence and just sat on it for the last two years? Allowing the intel community to summarize the Al Qaeda-Iraq connection as "tenuous?" And since when is the defense dep't in the intel business? Were they looking to cherry pick even the most unreliable intel in order to build a case that wasn't really there?

 

[replicator]

The Intelligence memo doesn't seem to link much from what I've read.

There was reports of this coming out way back, and everyone in the intel community said it there was no conclusive information, and was mostly based on speculation. Even if Al Qaeda had attempted communication with Saddam, it doesn't mean they were allies.

 

[Zebo]

Breaking news: Intelligence memo links Saddam, Osama

I don't see any proof in there and read the whole thing. Would you be so kind as show me proof besides heresay and allegations?


Oh and I forgot even the DOD says weekly standard story was a LIE

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Hmmm, a lot of "secret" memos being released lately. The memo is interesting, but brings up a number of questions. Am I to believe Feith had all this alleged evidence and just sat on it for the last two years? Allowing the intel community to summarize the Al Qaeda-Iraq connection as "tenuous?" And since when is the defense dep't in the intel business? Were they looking to cherry pick even the most unreliable intel in order to build a case that wasn't really there?

Ya reminds me of that mysterious, grainy video produced by the Pentagon months after 9-11, as supposed "evidence", which shows a man who *appears* to be bin Laden and it allegedly just "turned up" in a Jalalabad home.

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Hmmm, a lot of "secret" memos being released lately. The memo is interesting, but brings up a number of questions. Am I to believe Feith had all this alleged evidence and just sat on it for the last two years? Allowing the intel community to summarize the Al Qaeda-Iraq connection as "tenuous?" And since when is the defense dep't in the intel business? Were they looking to cherry pick even the most unreliable intel in order to build a case that wasn't really there?

That's what I was thinking, especially since Feith is a member of the Wolfowitz/Perle Iraq war cheerleading commitee.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Breaking news: Intelligence memo links Saddam, Osama

I don't see any proof in there and read the whole thing. Would you be so kind as show me proof besides heresay and allegations?


Oh and I forgot even the DOD says weekly standard story was a LIE

Nonononono! You see it wrong! This confirms what Bush said, so it cannot possibly be a lie!

 

[Insane3D]

Newsweek : Case Decidedly Not Closed

Case Decidedly Not Closed
The Defense Dept. memo allegedly proving a link between Al Qaeda and Saddam does nothing of the sort

Nov. 19 ? A leaked Defense Department memo claiming new evidence of an ?operational relationship? between Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein?s former regime is mostly based on unverified claims that were first advanced by some top Bush administration officials more than a year ago?and were largely discounted at the time by the U.S. intelligence community, according to current and former U.S. intelligence officials.