Breaking News: Baseball players, owners reach deal averting strike.

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Pastore

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Originally posted by: minendo
Originally posted by: Rallispec
BOO i want to see a strike
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And the loss of a national past time?
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imo, it hasnt been the national past time in 20 years... its a completely different game than it used to be.
 
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Mutilator

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Originally posted by: minendo
Originally posted by: Rallispec
BOO i want to see a strike
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And the loss of a national past time?
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Hmm... baseball wouldn't have gone anywhere. There's still little league... schools... minor league... maybe they should have striked... and then we start paying little leaguers $500/game. :p

 
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Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: minendo
Originally posted by: Rallispec
BOO i want to see a strike
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And the loss of a national past time?
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imo, it hasnt been the national past time in 20 years... its a completely different game than it used to be.
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Somewhere underneth the gold jewlry, the over blown egos, and the incredible shrinking strike zone is a damn fine game.

Nothing like listening to Ernie Harwell on a lazy afternoon. Goodbye Ernie.

 
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UberDave

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i would have liked to see back-yard MLB instead of overpaid non enthusiastic (mostly) grunts. :D
 
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MrDingleDangle

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aw yeah...

now we can get back into the season...LETS GO METS!!! U STILL ARENT MATHEMATICALLY ELIMINATED!!!

there are gonna be some good pennet races goin on :)
 
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neovan

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Yes. A full season. Even one game missed may have caused a controversy since the AL West and the NL West Wildcard is so close.

BTW...GO DODGERS!!! :D:D:D
 
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SALvation

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Damn it. I was hoping this was the end. Looks like we'll have to wait a few more years more this sport to go away.
 
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Damn....I wanted to see a strike....MLB sucks....if you want to see real baseball played for the love of the game go watch a AA or AAA team.
 
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Cerebus451

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The deal is utter crap. The owners caved yet again. Now we have 4 more years of watching the Yankees and whichever NL owner wants to buy a trip to the World Series. The revenue sharing is a complete joke (since they did not implement anything to ensure the owners getting the money actually spend it). The only thing worthwhile that could have come out of the talks was a reasonable salary cap. I have not seen the details yet, but the last I heard the offer was a $115 million luxury tax. Whoopee. So Steinbrenner has to pay $140 million for his $130 million payroll, which he will gladly do.
 
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Originally posted by: Cerebus451
The deal is utter crap. The owners caved yet again. Now we have 4 more years of watching the Yankees and whichever NL owner wants to buy a trip to the World Series. The revenue sharing is a complete joke (since they did not implement anything to ensure the owners getting the money actually spend it). The only thing worthwhile that could have come out of the talks was a reasonable salary cap. I have not seen the details yet, but the last I heard the offer was a $115 million luxury tax. Whoopee. So Steinbrenner has to pay $140 million for his $130 million payroll, which he will gladly do.
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The owners probably got one of the biggest concessions from the union ever. Is it enough? Probably not but thats their fault for not originally asking for more.
The amount of money transferred from the wealthy teams to the poorer ones will rise from $169 million to $258 million, using 2001 revenue figures for analysis. The threshold for the luxury tax will start at about $117 million in 2003, rising to about $137 million in 2006.
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I think they started asking for $275 million, so thats very close. They probably should proposed a salary cap and accepted a strike until the union surrendered.
 
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Cerebus451

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Originally posted by: jjsole
Originally posted by: Cerebus451
The deal is utter crap. The owners caved yet again. Now we have 4 more years of watching the Yankees and whichever NL owner wants to buy a trip to the World Series. The revenue sharing is a complete joke (since they did not implement anything to ensure the owners getting the money actually spend it). The only thing worthwhile that could have come out of the talks was a reasonable salary cap. I have not seen the details yet, but the last I heard the offer was a $115 million luxury tax. Whoopee. So Steinbrenner has to pay $140 million for his $130 million payroll, which he will gladly do.
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The owners probably got one of the biggest concessions from the union ever. Is it enough? Probably not but thats their fault for not originally asking for more.
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That's just marketing spin. It also goes to show just how far out of whack the union in baseball is. They've gotten so much for so long that the biggest concession they have ever given up will do nothing to slow the upward spiral of salaries and the downward spiral of small market teams. I still find it funny that the reason there was no add-on to the revenue sharing to make sure the owners getting money spent it (by imposing a minimum team salary) was because the players flat out rejected it. The owners needed to hold out for a salary cap, but my guess is the networks that had fronted the owners money for broadcast rights came knocking looking for their money back.

 
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This deal will do nothing to fix baeball's problems. I was hoping there would be a strike so both sides would have the winter to totally revamp the system and start from scratch with something that works. The same 4 or 5 teams will keep winning, and the players will keep making more money.

Baseball may still be the national pastime, but that's all it is, something to pass the time until football, the national passion.
 
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