Brazil judge orders U.S. citizens fingerprinted

[Conky]

Originally posted by: AntaresVI
SO I assume therefore that he considers his own actions to be absolutely brutal, threatening human rights, violating human dignity, xenophobic and worthy of the worst horrors committed by the Nazis?

No, only it only applies to the USA.

😛

 

[OutHouse]

why are foreigners so fricken stupid. I think im getting xenophobic.

 

[TommyVercetti]

Originally posted by: ndee
so what are the Americans gonna do with the fingerprints and photos? Then they would know for 100% who flew a plane into WTC? That's useful in WHICH way? The crash would still have happend.

Those finger prints would make great magazine covers.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: MBony
I love it when someone says someone did something really horrific they compare it to Hitler and the Nazis. Isn't there some other time in history that someone has done a one-up on Hitler? I'll have to do some searching myself..... I just think the Hitler card is just a lazy answer.

George Bush!!!

EDIT: I mean clinton!

 

[arcenite]

I know now not to fly to brazil.

Bill

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: TommyVercetti

Originally posted by: ndee
so what are the Americans gonna do with the fingerprints and photos? Then they would know for 100% who flew a plane into WTC? That's useful in WHICH way? The crash would still have happend.

Those finger prints would make great magazine covers.

If the person has records elsewhere it will allow the US to know not only what he looks like, but also his time of entry. I'm not sure if they'll be doing real-time checks against a database or not. It would make sense, but I think processing is probably too hefty to do it. They may check against a smaller database of wanted or known terrorists, and then we can safely assume that such people will get nabbed at the border, so they will not be getting into the US.

It's not perfect, but it's better than nothing.

 

[GoingUp]

yes because taking a fingerprint is equal to burning someone in an oven after gassing them

 

[kt]

What is the big deal with having your finger print taken?

 

[woodie1]

Originally posted by: MBony
I love it when someone says someone did something really horrific they compare it to Hitler and the Nazis. Isn't there some other time in history that someone has done a one-up on Hitler? I'll have to do some searching myself..... I just think the Hitler card is just a lazy answer.

Guess they could use H. Truman instead even though I think he did the right thing.

 

[tk149]

Originally posted by: kt
What is the big deal with having your finger print taken?

I don't get it either. My passport has my fingerprints on it, so what's the problem?

 

[kt]

Originally posted by: woodie1

Originally posted by: MBony
I love it when someone says someone did something really horrific they compare it to Hitler and the Nazis. Isn't there some other time in history that someone has done a one-up on Hitler? I'll have to do some searching myself..... I just think the Hitler card is just a lazy answer.

Guess they could use H. Truman instead even though I think he did the right thing.

You could say that.. but Truman saved millions by dropping those bombs on Japan. It's a lose-lose situation, it's just a matter of making the choice where less lives are taken.

 

[Francodman]

Originally posted by: kt

Originally posted by: woodie1

Originally posted by: MBony
I love it when someone says someone did something really horrific they compare it to Hitler and the Nazis. Isn't there some other time in history that someone has done a one-up on Hitler? I'll have to do some searching myself..... I just think the Hitler card is just a lazy answer.

Guess they could use H. Truman instead even though I think he did the right thing.

You could say that.. but Truman saved millions by dropping those bombs on Japan. It's a lose-lose situation, it's just a matter of making the choice where less lives are taken.

Why couldn't truman drop the bomb on a neighboring island where all of Japan could've seen?

 

[csiro]

Originally posted by: kt
What is the big deal with having your finger print taken?

It'll be a big deal if the gov't mandated that all US citizens travelling through airports will be photographed and fingerprinted as well. You bet people will be out on the streets protesting about the loss of their privacy and charges of a big brother gov't. As it stands right now, since this only affects foreign citizens of some countries so there isn't much of a controversy.

 

[tomwolfman]

as a european i don't have any problem with fingerprinting .amazing that we still have to rely on fingerprints with all the advances in dna technology.air marshalls and fingerprinting must be the thin end of the wedge
in all this .

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: Francodman

Originally posted by: kt

Originally posted by: woodie1

Originally posted by: MBony
I love it when someone says someone did something really horrific they compare it to Hitler and the Nazis. Isn't there some other time in history that someone has done a one-up on Hitler? I'll have to do some searching myself..... I just think the Hitler card is just a lazy answer.

Guess they could use H. Truman instead even though I think he did the right thing.

You could say that.. but Truman saved millions by dropping those bombs on Japan. It's a lose-lose situation, it's just a matter of making the choice where less lives are taken.

Why couldn't truman drop the bomb on a neighboring island where all of Japan could've seen?

Start a new thread about that...

 

[Electric Amish]

It's a world-wide conspiracy to catalogue every person's fingerprints!!!!! :|:|

 

[nan0bug]

Originally posted by: Hammer

"I consider the act absolutely brutal, threatening human rights, violating human dignity, xenophobic and worthy of the worst horrors committed by the Nazis," said Federal Judge Julier Sebastiao da Silva in the court order released on Tuesday.

You know, it really pisses me off when people who have a lot of power and influence, be it politicians or media personalities, say stuff like that. It totally trivializes the fact that the Nazis SYSTEMATICALLY TRIED TO ERASE A RACE OF PEOPLE. Since when is fingerprinting and photographing people anywhere close to being as repugnant as gassing people and throwing their corpses in ovens and mass graves, or working people to death in concentration camps?

It isnt even a racial issue. It has to do with people from countries that require visas, more than likely because their governments are less willing to cooperate with us in criminal matters.

That guy should be removed from office. No one that ignorant should be deciding people's fate.

 

[GreenGhost]

Usually visa requirements work based on reciprocal agreements, and this idiot judge decided to enforce the same treatment on his own, without any good reasoning behind it. State and local governments in areas of tourism are trying to get rid of this stupidity asap.

I'm sure some people there will support the judge's dicision, in a form of misguided pride or wathever.

I don't see how fingerprinting can be efficient as means of control, except as building a catalogue of frequent visitors and trying to catch the same guy with two different passports.

 

[EvilYoda]

Maybe I'm the only one that thinks this way, but when I heard about this a few days ago, I laughed my ass off, and thought that he was a genius...perhaps I'm not as "gung-ho" as everyone else, but his move was just awesome.

Now, his comments, they suck. But at least he had one good idea.

 

[SmoochyTX]

The 28 countries exempt:

Andorra
Austria
Australia
Belgium
Brunei
Denmark
Finland
France
Germany
Iceland
Ireland
Italy
Japan
Liechtenstein
Luxembourg
Monaco
Netherlands
New Zealand
Norway
Portugal
San Marino
Singapore
Slovenia
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
United Kingdom (for citizens with the unrestricted right of permanent abode in England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, Channel Islands and Isle of Man)