Brazil has 2nd most confirmed cases (over 1 million), more than 54,000 in the last day!

Muse

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More than 48,954 people in Brazil have died of Covid-19, second only to the total in the United States, according to a New York Times database.

Their president, an admirer of DJTrump, doesn't believe in social distancing.

Some experts are saying Brazil may surpass USA in deaths from Covid-19 by late July.
 

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No surprise. After the south failed 20000 confederates moved to Brazil to start a whites-nation; when Nazi Germany failed many Nazi's escaped to Brazil. And they have a disturbing connection to Eugenics.

 
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Unfortunately their trump didn't have anyone to prevent him from just pretending it is the flu.
 
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two of my coworkers (one is our plant director) emigrated from brazil to the US. at a time like this, it makes me wonder how they feel about their decision, and what they must be going through with family and friends at home.
 

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I heard yesterday maybe 200,000 deaths in USA by October.

I've said all along that we might have 500K dead by the election. It's still within reach, the potential for exponential increase being what it is. I'm sure Putin figured Trump might destroy us, right from the beginning. Nobody imagined it might be this.
 

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I've said all along that we might have 500K dead by the election. It's still within reach, the potential for exponential increase being what it is. I'm sure Putin figured Trump might destroy us, right from the beginning. Nobody imagined it might be this.
If the deaths go exponential in the USA by election day I think Trump's goose is cooked. Anybody with a brain will pin 1/2 of the deaths right on him.
 

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No surprise. After the south failed 20000 confederates moved to Brazil to start a whites-nation; when Nazi Germany failed many Nazi's escaped to Brazil. And they have a disturbing connection to Eugenics.



LOL. Nazis used ball point pens! Trump uses pens!! And shapes!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yall are gonna lose your woke as shit when Trump wins again. I am far from a Trump supporter but this is retaded as shit.
 
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If the deaths go exponential in the USA by election day I think Trump's goose is cooked. Anybody with a brain will pin 1/2 of the deaths right on him.

It's already happening. Numerous red states are being liberated as we type. It's a good time for old folks to get right with Jesus because he'll be calling a lot of them home, kicking & screaming all the way.
 
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I heard yesterday maybe 200,000 deaths in USA by October.

I've said all along that we might have 500K dead by the election. It's still within reach, the potential for exponential increase being what it is. I'm sure Putin figured Trump might destroy us, right from the beginning. Nobody imagined it might be this.

Unpossible. I keep hearing from the Trumpettes that Covid-19 is over...the protests and riots killed it.
 

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those high predictions are not good sciencing, IMO.
All the predictions of the 100K were way before the actual date, and I see them and can't help but think it serves the opposite purpose of waking people up. People get numb to it all, and then when it falls well short they get all smug about it in their denial.
 

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those high predictions are not good sciencing, IMO.
All the predictions of the 100K were way before the actual date, and I see them and can't help but think it serves the opposite purpose of waking people up. People get numb to it all, and then when it falls well short they get all smug about it in their denial.

That's because there models aren't perfect, and they're predictions based on very specific assumptions that may or may not be 100% accurate.
And because people (general public) are stupid.
 

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Science isn't exact, and health care advisors should (IMO) be looking at worst case. I do that in my own industry (IT database work.) You can't just assume everything will work fine, even though it very well may--you have to plan for what can go wrong and have contingency plans for what you do when it does. Or at least, you should...I've found, like Dr. Fauci has, that this is a thankless role when you have dipshits in charge. "You're a pessimist!" "See, nothing went wrong, you were worried for nothing!"

We don't buy health and car insurance because we know we'll get sick or get in a crash. Granted, a lot of people wouldn't do either if they were no compelled to do so, so that is I guess pretty similar to all the morons who won't wear masks. They won't do so unless forced, and then a big group will start whining about big government telling them what to do.
 

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That's because there models aren't perfect, and they're predictions based on very specific assumptions that may or may not be 100% accurate.
And because people (general public) are stupid.
they pick THEIR models, and it is always sky high. It does not help anyone to yell "the sky is falling" every fucking time.
I am all for people wearing masks and social distancing and doing what we can to protect ourselves.
Each time the numbers are statistically far better, it serves the idiots who don't care and are pushing the non-science agenda.
 

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Besides the Americans, how many other members here live in a country that has poorly handled this crisis? Any Brazilians, Russians or Sweds?
 

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they pick THEIR models, and it is always sky high. It does not help anyone to yell "the sky is falling" every fucking time.
I am all for people wearing masks and social distancing and doing what we can to protect ourselves.
Each time the numbers are statistically far better, it serves the idiots who don't care and are pushing the non-science agenda.

yes, i made a typo, congratulations. that doesn't invalidate my argument.

models are rarely perfect, and are often used to present both best- and worst-case scenarios based on what we know at the time. in this case, we didn't know a whole lot going in, because this virus had never been present in humans before. so based on the knowledge at the time , "if we do nothing, there could be 2 million dead" was projected as the worst case scenario.

and public health officials have a duty to protect the...public health. therefore, presenting the worst case scenario is essential to communicating the risk associated with a particular course of action (doing nothing)
social distancing, mask wearing, shutting down non-essential businesses, and most importantly - people's participation in these risk-mitigating actions - all affect the outcome.

so yes, if a model says "2 million dead" if we do nothing, and then we take drastic measures, we're not going to hit that 2 million dead anymore.

even if models predict "well, if the virus has an Ro of 1.5, and people wear masks 50% of the time, and they move around in this manner, and social distancing is only 70% effective. etc." "....500k dead in 6 months" well guess what? that's our best prediction based on the available information. could the model be wrong? absolutely. but using models to inform government action is better than no model at all and going by your gut, as one stable genius might do.

and this, ultimately, is why competent scientific communicators like Dr. Fauci, and consistent messaging from heads of state (who should be relying on those scientific communicators) are critical.
 

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they pick THEIR models, and it is always sky high. It does not help anyone to yell "the sky is falling" every fucking time.
I am all for people wearing masks and social distancing and doing what we can to protect ourselves.
Each time the numbers are statistically far better, it serves the idiots who don't care and are pushing the non-science agenda.
The problem--some of the models are high because they are pointing out what numbers might be if we do nothing. Then people do something--despite morons out without masks, a lot of us are pretty much self-quarantining to some degree--and the number drop. That is good! Except now the mouthbreathers point and say "we didn't need to do anything, look!"
You can't really win. And as I mentioned, I want health officials to look at worst case, but that is my nature to want to know that. Many people I know do not think that way. Scientists never say "this is what is going to happen" because people of science know you can't say things with certainty. It's all odds and risks and probabilities based on what we know today (which could be wrong.)
 
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LOL. Nazis used ball point pens! Trump uses pens!! And shapes!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yall are gonna lose your woke as shit when Trump wins again. I am far from a Trump supporter but this is retaded as shit.
Sure - if Hitler used Ball-Point pens to stab his political enemies in the eye THEN trump created a commercial about him stabbing people in the press in the eye with an emphasis on the ball point of the pen; yes it would be clearly an attempt to associate himself with Nazism.

Except here it was a Red-Triangle. So bad even Facebook (who Simp to Trump hard) pulled down the idiot advertisement.

Trump Fail.jpg

No surprise that a nation full of his Nazi and Confederate compatriots are just as signed up for eugenics as Trump is.
 
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No surprise. After the south failed 20000 confederates moved to Brazil to start a whites-nation; when Nazi Germany failed many Nazi's escaped to Brazil. And they have a disturbing connection to Eugenics.


Da fuq? If they wanted a whites-nation then uhhh... they failed again lol.

I honestly can't think of a country that is more diverse than Brazil.

Regardless of your skin color, everyone is broke as shit ;)
 
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I'm not swayed from the idea of using 'likely to reach' as opposed to worst-case scenario, every damn time.
 

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I made this chart with 13 different countries' infected cases, including Brazil, a while back and have updated it with the various countries' numbers up to yesterday (click for full picture):

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This chart's Y-axis is logarithmic base 2, starting @ 40, meaning every horizontal line is double of the previous one. The more horizontal a country's line is, the better whatever measures that are in place are working and, as can be clearly seen, Brazil has the least horizontal of all of those in this chart.

Brazil had roughly half it's current cases by May 31st, so it doubled it's cases in just 21 days. By contrast, Sweden which also has a not-so-good-looking line, had roughly half it's current cases by May 5th, so it doubled it's cases in 56 days and Russia, which is the current 3rd highest country in number of cases, had roughly half it's current cases by May 18th, so it doubled it's number of cases in 34 days.

It's way WAY better than initially when we were seeing a doubling in 5 or 6 days but OTOH the numbers are far FAR higher now.
 
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Yes, but my guess is many of the COVID-19 cases are taking place in highly concentrated areas of Brazil. Where the population is the highest, and most concentrated.
Also, the most poorest. Which is sad, but is a fact of life. Am I wrong about this?