Brand new $50k mustang + 14 year old kid == ???

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jagec

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Apr 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: Journer
Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
See people. This is why you park with your car in gear AND use the parking brake.

i doubt the parking break would have helped...it depends on how high the car was idling when cranked...

what happened:
kid pushes clutch in (cant start a manual unless the clutch is in, sometimes u can do it in neutral, but it wouldnt be N ...because, well duh, it wouldnt move)
kid starts car
kid lets go of clutch
usually, the car will hop and die
but...for one reason or another (maybe the stupid kid was pushing the gas too?) the car was idling high enough for it to move...
get gets scared, somehow forgets where break is...

the PB MIGHT have helped..doubtfull though

this is why when i had a manual i put it in 3rd, not first...its not going anywhere unless someone holds the gas down all the way, even then it would be slow :p

anywho, the dad is completely retarded...the kid is pretty stupid...i suppose the apple doesnt fall far from the tree :p

It's spelled "brake".

Modern manuals won't start unless you're pressing on the clutch, but that hasn't always been the case

The parking brake WOULD have prevented this, by stalling out the engine. Unless the kid was REALLY revving it up, dumping the clutch with the parking brake engaged would have been enough of an extra factor to kill it after a short hop.

Putting it in third while parked isn't a good idea. The purpose of putting it in gear is to keep it from rolling while parked, which is much more of a concern than "accidentally" dumping the clutch when you start it. Plus, you should be pressing the brake and clutch when starting the car, so it wouldn't matter anyway.
 

Journer

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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Journer
Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
See people. This is why you park with your car in gear AND use the parking brake.

i doubt the parking break would have helped...it depends on how high the car was idling when cranked...

what happened:
kid pushes clutch in (cant start a manual unless the clutch is in, sometimes u can do it in neutral, but it wouldnt be N ...because, well duh, it wouldnt move)
kid starts car
kid lets go of clutch
usually, the car will hop and die
but...for one reason or another (maybe the stupid kid was pushing the gas too?) the car was idling high enough for it to move...
get gets scared, somehow forgets where break is...

the PB MIGHT have helped..doubtfull though

this is why when i had a manual i put it in 3rd, not first...its not going anywhere unless someone holds the gas down all the way, even then it would be slow :p

anywho, the dad is completely retarded...the kid is pretty stupid...i suppose the apple doesnt fall far from the tree :p

It's spelled "brake".

Modern manuals won't start unless you're pressing on the clutch, but that hasn't always been the case

The parking brake WOULD have prevented this, by stalling out the engine. Unless the kid was REALLY revving it up, dumping the clutch with the parking brake engaged would have been enough of an extra factor to kill it after a short hop.

Putting it in third while parked isn't a good idea. The purpose of putting it in gear is to keep it from rolling while parked, which is much more of a concern than "accidentally" dumping the clutch when you start it. Plus, you should be pressing the brake and clutch when starting the car, so it wouldn't matter anyway.

if the car is in first, its gonna roll forward, if it is in third, its gonna roll forward...all putting it in gear goes is keep it from moving backwards...
 

illusion88

Lifer
Oct 2, 2001
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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Journer
Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
See people. This is why you park with your car in gear AND use the parking brake.

i doubt the parking break would have helped...it depends on how high the car was idling when cranked...

what happened:
kid pushes clutch in (cant start a manual unless the clutch is in, sometimes u can do it in neutral, but it wouldnt be N ...because, well duh, it wouldnt move)
kid starts car
kid lets go of clutch
usually, the car will hop and die
but...for one reason or another (maybe the stupid kid was pushing the gas too?) the car was idling high enough for it to move...
get gets scared, somehow forgets where break is...

the PB MIGHT have helped..doubtfull though

this is why when i had a manual i put it in 3rd, not first...its not going anywhere unless someone holds the gas down all the way, even then it would be slow :p

anywho, the dad is completely retarded...the kid is pretty stupid...i suppose the apple doesnt fall far from the tree :p

It's spelled "brake".

Modern manuals won't start unless you're pressing on the clutch, but that hasn't always been the case

The parking brake WOULD have prevented this, by stalling out the engine. Unless the kid was REALLY revving it up, dumping the clutch with the parking brake engaged would have been enough of an extra factor to kill it after a short hop.

Putting it in third while parked isn't a good idea. The purpose of putting it in gear is to keep it from rolling while parked, which is much more of a concern than "accidentally" dumping the clutch when you start it. Plus, you should be pressing the brake and clutch when starting the car, so it wouldn't matter anyway.

If I park on a hill I leave it in gear, otherwise I alwas leave it in N. And I always start the car with both break and clutch when on a hill. Ill admit, in my flat driveway, I usually don't, but then again, i;m not letting anyone drive my car.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: Journer
if the car is in first, its gonna roll forward, if it is in third, its gonna roll forward...all putting it in gear goes is keep it from moving backwards...

Shens on you ever owning a manual transmission.
 

thedarkwolf

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Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Journer
if the car is in first, its gonna roll forward, if it is in third, its gonna roll forward...all putting it in gear goes is keep it from moving backwards...

Shens on you ever owning a manual transmission.

Totally. That car has enough power to take off without the kid touching the gas pedal after popping the clutch. He then freaked and hit the gas pedal instead of the brake. Had the parking brake been set it may have lunged forward a hair but it would have stalled before he had a chance to freak and hit the gas. You have to try a good bit to over power the parking brake.

Putting a car in 1st keeps it from rolling forward or backwards. Putting one in 3rd probably won't stop it from rolling either way but will give it some resistance of coarse that depends on the gearing.
 

AdamK47

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Oct 9, 1999
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The car can't be $50,000. The guy who made the video probably thought it was the GT500. If the guy did pay that much for it then he's an idiot on two counts. Buying the car for that much and then letting his 14 yo drive it. Eh, it's a Ford anyways.
 

krunchykrome

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Dec 28, 2003
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Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
The car can't be $50,000. The guy who made the video probably thought it was the GT500. If the guy did pay that much for it then he's an idiot on two counts. Buying the car for that much and then letting his 14 yo drive it. Eh, it's a Ford anyways.

Now it it were a GT40, that'd be something.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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The best part is, the dad will just tell his insurance company he was driving and we'll all pay for his son's stupidity. :)
 

KarenMarie

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OMG!!!

I would have loved it if the clip continued to show the parents reaction when that set in.
 
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Originally posted by: binister
I haven't driven a stick in about 10 years but how did the car keep moving? Wouldn't it have just stalled and died after a couple of feet?

I can let go of the clutch slowly in my truck and not touch the gas and it will engage and start moving on its own without me touching the gas.
 

SVT Cobra

Lifer
Mar 29, 2005
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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: binister
I haven't driven a stick in about 10 years but how did the car keep moving? Wouldn't it have just stalled and died after a couple of feet?

I can let go of the clutch slowly in my truck and not touch the gas and it will engage and start moving on its own without me touching the gas.

Of course, slipping the clutch.


Second, you can leave it in 3rd and not have it roll. The point of leaving it in 1st is so it doesn't roll backwards, and it will not go forward in 1st without gas, it will stall right away when the clutch is dumped, it will stall even sooner in 3rd if the clutch it let go slowly without gas compared to 1st.


The only way for that to have happened was if the kid hit the gas, and it looked like a pretty decent start too, not a launch with wheel spin (like it would have been if he was revving itand then accidently dumped the clutch). Second it is not a GT500, third even if it was I don't care how much HP a car has, you dump the clutch without gas it isn't going anywhere. If I let go of the clutch on my Cobra (which I am betting has more power than that crappy looking asthetically modded mustang GT) it stalls out immediately and comes to a halt.

So Instantly I was thinking it was fake, especially since you don't see the car actually crash or hit anything or even a big boom of something hitting, not to mention never seeing the kid etc, and the damage afterwards looks like it was staged.

But, upon further review it looks as if earlier in the video the kid was trying to start it (you can see him trying to turn the key but the car doesn't start until later) which meant he probably started randomly pushing the pedals to start it, thus him pressing the gas. So maybe it isn't fake.
 

thescreensavers

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I just started driving and before and after i have the car running my foot it on the brake so in case.