Branch office VPN questions...

Booty

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Over the next couple years, our company is looking at adding about 6 more branch offices, (we currently have only 2) - in doing this, the owner realizes he's going to have to make some pretty large changes in how the network is setup.

Right now, we have our main office on a commercial cable connection, and the 2 branch offices are on DSL. He wanted to order a seperate DSL connection for the main office so that if one connection went down, we could switch to the other. So what I guess I'm looking for are VPN routers that would know to switch over to another connection if the main one fails. We want to replaces the current ones (RoBox) anyway, since they don't make them anymore. Down the road a few months, we want to replace the cable connection with a T1 line, so then we'd have T1 with a secondary DSL connection, which I'm not sure would be necessary, but... there might be some reason to hang on to it. I haven't gotten to think that far in advance yet.

My other main question is whether we should setup the branch offices in a 'mesh' type configuration, so there were tunnels between all offices, or whether we should do more of a 'spoke' configuration, with the branches only tunneling to the main office. The plan would be for each office to have its own domain controller/file server, with the database and mail servers residing in the home office, as well as a 'master' (for lack of a better word) file server that all the branches dump to and handles backups. Some of the branches are going to be in remote parts of the country, and we would rather not have to rely on each branch office handling their own backups... plus, there aren't a lot of office-type documents created on a day-to-day basis, so it shouldn't take up a ton of nightly bandwidth to have the files dumped from the branches to home I wouldn't think.

We've consulted with a couple local firms about all this, and everyone seems to have their own opinion on how to best handle it - some say all this is excessive, others say its necessary. We'd rather be on the safe side, even if it is excessive. Cost is not the primary issue - uptime, redundancy, disaster recovery... those are the main concerns.

So, again, looking for recommended hardware (Cisco VPN routers?) that can do what I described, as well as opinions on how it should all be set up. Oh, and yeah, it's a Windows network (AD, exchange).

Oh, and one last thing - any recommendations on a spam filtering appliance? Quite frankly, I don't know if I want to risk manually setting up a spam assassin box - I haven't found a clear-cut howto on sending mail through a spam-assassin box and passing that off to an exchange server, and I won't have the time or resources to experiment with it for quite a while.

Thanks for any/all input.
 

SaigonK

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Nortel makes a very nice branch to branch office unit for around $1000. The contivity 1100..comes with four lan ports as well...I have about 10-12 of them deployed...works very well.
 

cmetz

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Booty, get a Cisco 1700 series router, security bundle. There's a new 1800/800 series that also can do this and are a little cheaper, but they're brand new products and I'd give them a while to mature. Just make sure your hardware accelerator for crypto supports AES. Once you're talking T1, you're talking Cisco. They just dominate the SME market segment.

I have found the Nortel Contivity boxes to be difficult to manage. YMMV. Not that Cisco is exactly intuitive either, but at least most everybody in the business networking game knows how to use them.

As for spam filtering, I would build a PC with free software solutions to the problem. Here's a very detailed walk-through:

http://www.flakshack.com/anti-spam/wiki/index.php

I've built pretty much this exact setup for several businesses and it Just Works. They don't even know it's there.

Of course, if that makes you nervous, there are plenty of expensive solutions that don't work as well you can buy from commercial vendors...
 

Boscoh

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A 1721 or even a 1711 with the firewall/vpn package would probably work very well for you. A Cisco PIX 506e would work too if they will only give you a stripped down router to terminate your T1.
 

DarkJuJu

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Dont drink the koolaid

netscreen 25 or Watchguard X700 @ host
Adtran or 3com router 1/5 the cost of a cisco for a basic Point to point (why spend more?)

netscreen 5xp or watchguard soho @ remotes

less hassle less money just plain works

For spam depending on how many mail boxes (less than 150?) mxlogic is a great service that keeps all the junk traffic and virus off your network and cheap.
 

Boscoh

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3com? :laugh:

Most ISP's will give you a stripped down router to terminate your T1 for free (or very cheap) when you sign the contract. Most that I know of give Cisco...usually with the IP or IP Plus feature set. So he might not even have to pay for that.

Netscreen units are more expensive with less performance than the PIX units.

If you want uptime, you're going to want support. It's going to be tough to beat Cisco support, especially if you're using 3com. Netscreen used to not be that great but were getting better....but Juniper owns them now, and I've had less than stellar results with Juniper support. Your mileage may vary with either one of those vendors.