Brakes/Rotors

LuckyTaxi

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2002 Lexus IS300

So I bought my car in Jan 2007 and I havent replaced the brakes or rotors. I did take it off once to inspect and the brakes were fine and so were the rotors from what I can tell. However, maybe it's just the cold mornings but when I'm pulling out of my parking spot I can hear a squealing noise coming from the brakes and/or rotors. In addition, I'll hear a sound as I apply pressure on the brake as I'm driving through my parking lot. It sounds like rollerblades going by you. I can't explain but it's got a rough sound to it. However, once i'm driving for 30 minutes or so, the noise goes away. No shaking or anythig at high speed so I dont think they're warped.

Anyways, not sure if i wanna waste money changing them but I have this urge to replace what i can since I dont know what the previous owner did to the car.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: lilcam
2002 Lexus IS300

So I bought my car in Jan 2007 and I havent replaced the brakes or rotors. I did take it off once to inspect and the brakes were fine and so were the rotors from what I can tell. However, maybe it's just the cold mornings but when I'm pulling out of my parking spot I can hear a squealing noise coming from the brakes and/or rotors. In addition, I'll hear a sound as I apply pressure on the brake as I'm driving through my parking lot. It sounds like rollerblades going by you. I can't explain but it's got a rough sound to it. However, once i'm driving for 30 minutes or so, the noise goes away. No shaking or anythig at high speed so I dont think they're warped.

Anyways, not sure if i wanna waste money changing them but I have this urge to replace what i can since I dont know what the previous owner did to the car.

My wife's IS250 did that too and we bought it new. The brakes are very very good in this car and are prone to being a tad noisy at low speeds. Take it to the dealer if it bothers you and they can change your pads to one that is less noisy but probably not quite as performance oriented either.
 

funboy6942

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Its just a light coat of rust on the pads and rotors from moisture in the air. The sound and felling you get is the surface rust from sitting over night being worn off when you start hitting the brakes, and why when they have been used for about 30 minutes or so it goes away because all the rust has been removed from you applying the brakes.

Dodge Neons were horrible for this, and there really is not much you can do, or buy, or the dealership can do to prevent this for metal rusts no matter what, so unless someone can make mother nature change its ways, its just something you will most likely live with.

On the bright side though, it will in no way effect your braking system, cause you to crash, or anything bad, just annoying for the first half hour or so. My suggestion would be at first morning, or drive, just pull away for a few blocks with the brakes slightly applied to get that coating off quicker if it is that annoying to you.

You can take it to the stealership, but they will gladly take your money, go do some grinding and slap some grease here and there, may work great for about 2 weeks or so then come right back. I know because I used to be the service manager for Ford, Dodge, and Infinity till I couldnt handle the mass amounts off ass hat customers no more, burnt me up, and went to driving a truck and being alone after that.
 

fstime

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Seems like they just need time to warm up, especially now that its getting colder in the mornings.
 

LuckyTaxi

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ah ok. saved me a few hundred bucks. as long as my car doesnt shake at high speeds im good. my old car used to have that issue no matter how many times i changed rotors.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: funboy42
Its just a light coat of rust on the pads and rotors from moisture in the air. The sound and felling you get is the surface rust from sitting over night being worn off when you start hitting the brakes, and why when they have been used for about 30 minutes or so it goes away because all the rust has been removed from you applying the brakes.

Dodge Neons were horrible for this, and there really is not much you can do, or buy, or the dealership can do to prevent this for metal rusts no matter what, so unless someone can make mother nature change its ways, its just something you will most likely live with.

On the bright side though, it will in no way effect your braking system, cause you to crash, or anything bad, just annoying for the first half hour or so. My suggestion would be at first morning, or drive, just pull away for a few blocks with the brakes slightly applied to get that coating off quicker if it is that annoying to you.

You can take it to the stealership, but they will gladly take your money, go do some grinding and slap some grease here and there, may work great for about 2 weeks or so then come right back. I know because I used to be the service manager for Ford, Dodge, and Infinity till I couldnt handle the mass amounts off ass hat customers no more, burnt me up, and went to driving a truck and being alone after that.

My wife's car is garage kept and there is no surface rust on the rotors after a night in the garage. Her car did this after it was warmed up too. The dealer changed the pads for her after she complained about it a couple times and it's been fine ever since. They didn't charge us a dime for the repairs either.
 

Epic22

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the rotors get rusty a while after the car is off. when you first start driving the car, the rust is what is probably making the noise..don't worry, the rust will disappear on it's own after a bit of driving
 

zerocool84

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Originally posted by: funboy42
Its just a light coat of rust on the pads and rotors from moisture in the air. The sound and felling you get is the surface rust from sitting over night being worn off when you start hitting the brakes, and why when they have been used for about 30 minutes or so it goes away because all the rust has been removed from you applying the brakes.

Dodge Neons were horrible for this, and there really is not much you can do, or buy, or the dealership can do to prevent this for metal rusts no matter what, so unless someone can make mother nature change its ways, its just something you will most likely live with.

On the bright side though, it will in no way effect your braking system, cause you to crash, or anything bad, just annoying for the first half hour or so. My suggestion would be at first morning, or drive, just pull away for a few blocks with the brakes slightly applied to get that coating off quicker if it is that annoying to you.

You can take it to the stealership, but they will gladly take your money, go do some grinding and slap some grease here and there, may work great for about 2 weeks or so then come right back. I know because I used to be the service manager for Ford, Dodge, and Infinity till I couldnt handle the mass amounts off ass hat customers no more, burnt me up, and went to driving a truck and being alone after that.

HA you're telling me. After I wash my car it's really horrible on the rotors or after a REALLY cold night but I just make sure I do some stops before I get on a busy street to get the rust off. I have new aftermarket brakes now so it's gone down a lot.
 

PandaBear

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Pads can be quiet/comfortable/clean or powerful, but not usually both. You should see how my Axxis/PBR Ultimate stop and how quickly it blacken my wheel (300 miles of driving) and how it chew through my rotor. Still love it.
 

Jahee

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Originally posted by: funboy42
Its just a light coat of rust on the pads and rotors from moisture in the air. The sound and felling you get is the surface rust from sitting over night being worn off when you start hitting the brakes, and why when they have been used for about 30 minutes or so it goes away because all the rust has been removed from you applying the brakes.

Dodge Neons were horrible for this, and there really is not much you can do, or buy, or the dealership can do to prevent this for metal rusts no matter what, so unless someone can make mother nature change its ways, its just something you will most likely live with.

On the bright side though, it will in no way effect your braking system, cause you to crash, or anything bad, just annoying for the first half hour or so. My suggestion would be at first morning, or drive, just pull away for a few blocks with the brakes slightly applied to get that coating off quicker if it is that annoying to you.

You can take it to the stealership, but they will gladly take your money, go do some grinding and slap some grease here and there, may work great for about 2 weeks or so then come right back. I know because I used to be the service manager for Ford, Dodge, and Infinity till I couldnt handle the mass amounts off ass hat customers no more, burnt me up, and went to driving a truck and being alone after that.

Half hours driving?! Try half a minutes worth of braking! :confused:
 

mooseracing

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Originally posted by: Jahee
Half hours driving?! Try half a minutes worth of braking! :confused:

technically a half hour of driving is a half hour of braking, on disc setups they have a constant drag. Or is that what you are getting at?

I can't beleive such shitty quality of rotors were used on those cars that they rust over night. I could see a week or two but damn overnight?

 

jagec

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Originally posted by: mooseracing
Originally posted by: Jahee
Half hours driving?! Try half a minutes worth of braking! :confused:

technically a half hour of driving is a half hour of braking, on disc setups they have a constant drag. Or is that what you are getting at?

I can't beleive such shitty quality of rotors were used on those cars that they rust over night. I could see a week or two but damn overnight?

I think he's saying that you can drive for a half-hour and allow the slight drag of the calipers to slowly get rid of the rust, or you can just hit the brakes and scrape it all off at once.