Brain tumors

[redfella]

Are we all going to get brain tumors w/ all these radio waves bouncing everywhere?

This question came to mind yesterday after they just got done installing a new digital power meter on my house to replace the "old" analog meter. Now the meter reader can just sit his lazy ass in the truck and drive by my house to take a reading (utilizing radio waves shooting from my digital meter to his reader) instead of walking to my backyard. I guess that's ok, but it gets a person thinking... All these radio waves coming from cell phones, satillites, radios, wireless networks, etc., and now digital meters can't possibly be good for your head, could it?

Convience is nice, but what price are we paying?

Or have they done tests on this stuff and I'm just an ignoramous?

 

[Kilgor]

Originally posted by: redfella
Are we all going to get brain tumors w/ all these radio waves bouncing everywhere?

This question came to mind yesterday after they just got done installing a new digital power meter on my house to replace the "old" analog meter. Now the meter reader can just sit his lazy ass in the truck and drive by my house to take a reading (utilizing radio waves shooting from my digital meter to his reader) instead of walking to my backyard. I guess that's ok, but it gets a person thinking... All these radio waves coming from cell phones, satillites, radios, wireless networks, etc., and now digital meters can't possibly be good for your head, could it?

Convience is nice, but what price are we paying?

Or have they done tests on this stuff and I'm just an ignoramous?

Link

 

[Heisenberg]

Originally posted by: redfella
Or have they done tests on this stuff and I'm just an ignoramous?

*ding ding ding* We have a winner!

Seriously, radio waves carry far less energy than visible light. You need high intensities or other certain circumstances before they really have the potential to do damage.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

They've done tests.

There has been natural EM radiation since the dawn of time.

Think of getting a tumor as having sex with a supermodel. Sure, some people have, but you aren't going to. And nobody's had sex with a supermodel because of radio waves.

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: Heisenberg

Originally posted by: redfella
Or have they done tests on this stuff and I'm just an ignoramous?

*ding ding ding* We have a winner!

Seriously, radio waves carry far less energy than visible light. You need high intensities or other certain circumstances before they really have the potential to do damage.

Cell phone radiation does some significant damage to the brain.

They have done tests on Radio Waves but they are inconclusive about long term damage. Plus light does not pass through the skull so therefore could not affect the brain in the same way as radio waves.

 

[redfella]

Originally posted by: DaShen
They have done tests on Radio Waves but they are inconclusive about long term damage. Plus light does not pass through the skull so therefore could not affect the brain in the same way as radio waves.

I guess we'll find out in 30 years when the population halves?

 

[GTaudiophile]

I know men who carry their cell phones too close to their crotch risk low sperm count or worse. I think the damage from cell phones is real...and we have yet to fully realize this.

 

[Heisenberg]

Originally posted by: DaShen
Cell phone radiation does some significant damage to the brain.

They have done tests on Radio Waves but they are inconclusive about long term damage. Plus light does not pass through the skull so therefore could not affect the brain in the same way as radio waves.

'Cell phone radiation'? Cell phones are just radio transceivers, it's not like they emit some new kind of radiation. Radio waves are what as known as non-ionizing radiation, meaning they don't knock electrons from atoms, and they're at the boundary in terms of energy for causing thermal effects. Now there are some possibilities for long-term effects through various mechanisms, but I've yet to see conclusive studies that show them.

 

[Accipiter22]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I know men who carry their cell phones too close to their crotch risk low sperm count or worse. I think the damage from cell phones is real...and we have yet to fully realize this.

I agree....I don't like carrying it near my wang. I just leave it on my desk at all times at work or home. only time it's pocketed is when I'm at a club

 

[KB]

Studies go back and forth on this... here is the latest one http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2005/cell_tumors_sweden.html

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: Heisenberg

Originally posted by: redfella
Or have they done tests on this stuff and I'm just an ignoramous?

*ding ding ding* We have a winner!

Seriously, radio waves carry far less energy than visible light. You need high intensities or other certain circumstances before they really have the potential to do damage.

Cell phone radiation does some significant damage to the brain.

They have done tests on Radio Waves but they are inconclusive about long term damage. Plus light does not pass through the skull so therefore could not affect the brain in the same way as radio waves.

what is some significant damage and who me at least a few links backing it up. you have the burden of proof.

radio waves still have less energy than visible light - by a lot. just because the skull is transparent to a radio wave doesnt mean it is bouncing around killing brain cells. to cause damage, the wave would have to have sufficient energy to knock off electrons or cause an instability, leading to an alteration of the original atom, resulting in an emission or decay of a neutron/electron/boson/etc.

when brain surgery is performed, why is it ok to use visible light to illuminate the patient's brain? because even visible light at normal intensities, with a ton more energy per photon, does not hard the brain. you would have to be standing in the path of a very intense radio wave source to be harmed by it, but even then it isnt an absolute. with higher intensity comes a higher probability that one of the waves will perhaps hit the right electron or absorb into the right atom, but it is still just a probablity. arguing for thermal vibration doesnt work either, because in order for atoms to vibrate they have to contain electrons in higher energy orbits. the reduced mass of the whole system isnt affected much by the addition of a sharp or principle electron...and those are the ones more likely to be absorbed by a radio wave, or even visible light.

 

[NanoStuff]

Originally posted by: redfella
Are we all going to get brain tumors w/ all these radio waves bouncing everywhere?

Probably, but is anyone going to miss an episode of South Park to spare brain cancer? I don't think so.

Just wait until they start up communications in the microwave spectrum, that's where the fun really starts.

 

[moshquerade]

guess we'll soon find out.

in the meantime switch sides when using your cellphone.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: NanoStuff

Originally posted by: redfella
Are we all going to get brain tumors w/ all these radio waves bouncing everywhere?

Probably, but is anyone going to miss an episode of South Park to spare brain cancer? I don't think so.

Just wait until they start up communications in the microwave spectrum, that's where the fun really starts.

:roll:

 

[spidey07]

AFAIK there is no conclusion yet.

It could be harmful. It could not be.

But no real definative conclusion.

 

[Savij]

Take a look at how many radio waves we receive from space. I mean the stars and the sun are bombarding us with them all the time. I think it's time that we shut them down until we understand the risks associated with the RADIATION what we receive from them. It's F'ing crazy.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: Savij
Take a look at how many radio waves we receive from space. I mean the stars and the sun are bombarding us with them all the time. I think it's time that we shut them down until we understand the risks associated with the RADIATION what we receive from them. It's F'ing crazy.

milliwatt powered devices around your head are not causing problems. the reason it hasnt been found to have a conclusive answer is probably because someone has an agenda for whatever reason.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: Heisenberg

Originally posted by: redfella
Or have they done tests on this stuff and I'm just an ignoramous?

*ding ding ding* We have a winner!

Seriously, radio waves carry far less energy than visible light. You need high intensities or other certain circumstances before they really have the potential to do damage.

Cell phone radiation does some significant damage to the brain.

They have done tests on Radio Waves but they are inconclusive about long term damage. Plus light does not pass through the skull so therefore could not affect the brain in the same way as radio waves.

Your name is perfect for this little tidbit of misinformation.

Show me one valid peer reviewed and repeated study showing harm from normal use of modern mobile phones. Just one.

You can't, so stop spreading myths.

 

[Deleted member 4644]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
They've done tests.

There has been natural EM radiation since the dawn of time.

Think of getting a tumor as having sex with a supermodel. Sure, some people have, but you aren't going to. And nobody's had sex with a supermodel because of radio waves.

There are probably about 1500 people alive who have had sex with a legit supermodel. There are 1000000 people who have cancer. Your analogy is flawed.

The only question is how many ppl with cancer have it because of man-made EM/nuclear radiation.

*note these are not real stats

 

[FoBoT]

no

 

[redfella]

Originally posted by: spidey07
AFAIK there is no conclusion yet.

It could be harmful. It could not be.

But no real definative conclusion.

If there is any question there is no question.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: redfella

Originally posted by: spidey07
AFAIK there is no conclusion yet.

It could be harmful. It could not be.

But no real definative conclusion.

If there is any question there is no question.

What an absurd thing to say.

 

[redfella]

Originally posted by: Amused
What an absurd thing to say.

Not really. It's a motto that serves as an excellence preventative measure in all sorts of circumstances in life.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: redfella

Originally posted by: Amused
What an absurd thing to say.

Not really. It's a motto that serves as an excellence preventative measure in all sorts of circumstances in life.

No, it's a motto that serves as a basis for irrational fears, hysteria and phobias.

 

[redfella]

Keep on thinking you know everything. Good luck and have fun.