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BP really cares about it employees, alarms are turned off so that employees can sleep

DesiPower

DesiPower

Lifer
Awesome! its really a great company to work for!!!
"They did not want people woken up at 3 a.m. from false alarms," Michael Williams told the six-member panel. As a result, the alarm failed to trigger during the emergency, and workers were forced to sound the alarm through the loudspeaker system on board.
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moar links if you hate Fox
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jul/23/deepwater-horizon-oil-rig-alarms
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/24/us/24hearings.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/23/AR2010072302515.html
 
I just have the hardest time believing that these orders came down from BP. I've been contracted by them quite a few times and they were the safest places to work around. They took everything very seriously. Hell I had to go sit in a two day safety course once just for putting my foot on the railing of scaffolding.
 
bfdd said:
I just have the hardest time believing that these orders came down from BP. I've been contracted by them quite a few times and they were the safest places to work around. They took everything very seriously. Hell I had to go sit in a two day safety course once just for putting my foot on the railing of scaffolding.
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You know that in the last three years 97% of all citations and violation issues to oil companies went to BP?
 
DesiPower said:
You know that in the last three years 97% of all citations and violation issues to oil companies went to BP?
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It could be because the refineries I've worked in were originally Arco refineries before Arco was purchased by BP, but I would rank them around the top of the safest places I've worked. Tesoro was really good too, ExxonMobile has the worst refinery I've ever worked in.

Again, I'm just recounting my personal experience of working for different oil and gas companies.
 
Well, the Massi coal mine incident was worse IMO. TONS of safety violations, many witnesses saying Massi forced them to disable common safety devices. All in all, every time I hear about it on the news, or one of the workers comes forward, the place sounded like a death trap.

I know some regulations are stupid, however, for the most part Safety > money.
 
Cogman said:
Well, the Massi coal mine incident was worse IMO. TONS of safety violations, many witnesses saying Massi forced them to disable common safety devices. All in all, every time I hear about it on the news, or one of the workers comes forward, the place sounded like a death trap.

I know some regulations are stupid, however, for the most part Safety > money.
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BZZZZZZZZZZZZZT

Wrong!

Here's what's most important things when it comes to this country

1. Ceo/wall street exec profits
2. Bombing other countries for no reason
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100000. Shareholder value
100001. worker safety
 
I've seen an industrial fire as a result of disabling a thermal shutdown device in a large compressor because it went off too frequently. It was known to not be faulty, just inconvenient and disruptive to production. Of course this lead to a huge loss of production and a really funny scramble to cover it up. Workers on their hands and knees where they could see, trying to get outside after the whole plant filled with thick black smoke from a high pressure hydraulic fire in less than a minute, was a sight to see as well.

Did it stop the company from ignoring or creating safety issues? No! They only spent money the day after someone got hurt, time and time again.
 
bfdd said:
I just have the hardest time believing that these orders came down from BP. I've been contracted by them quite a few times and they were the safest places to work around. They took everything very seriously. Hell I had to go sit in a two day safety course once just for putting my foot on the railing of scaffolding.
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That's your typical sign on the line, aleave them from any corporate responsibility, CYA training. I do it aleast once a year. See, tag your it now.
 
hal2kilo said:
That's your typical sign on the line, aleave them from any corporate responsibility, CYA training. I do it aleast once a year. See, tag your it now.
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I heard that the CEO manages all day to day activities for every single employee.
 
bfdd said:
I just have the hardest time believing that these orders came down from BP. I've been contracted by them quite a few times and they were the safest places to work around. They took everything very seriously. Hell I had to go sit in a two day safety course once just for putting my foot on the railing of scaffolding.
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i work in the oil field, on wellsites. I agree. they have the most saftey regulations of any company i have worked for, i have been to a bunch of classes also.
 
Though BP is perhaps one of the most evil corporations (due to its relationship with the UK government), one of those articles in the OP states that this was Transocean's decision.
 
bfdd said:
I just have the hardest time believing that these orders came down from BP. I've been contracted by them quite a few times and they were the safest places to work around. They took everything very seriously. Hell I had to go sit in a two day safety course once just for putting my foot on the railing of scaffolding.
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I believe, contrary to the title, the order was from Transocean. A more accurate title would be "Transocean really cares about it employees, alarms are turned off so that employees can sleep"

Williams testified that the inhibit orders were relayed from the captain of the deepwater horizon, which I believe was a transocean employee.

None the less, it was an interesting interview, it was on late when I had nothing to watch so I watched several hours of it on c-span. Some of the stuff was just shocking really.

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Also a quote from one of the articles regarding an audit performed by BP itself of the rig operated by Transocean:
An attorney for BP, Richard Godfrey, added to the picture by reading from a September 2009 BP audit during his questioning of Williams. He read a litany of findings that included problems with bilge pumps, cooling pumps, an alarm system related to the rig's hospital and an emergency shutdown panel on the bridge.
A fire and alarm system was found to have its "override active," Godfrey said.
Altogether, the September audit identified 390 issues that needed addressing, Godfrey said.
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DesiPower said:
Oh ya, sorry, my bad, BP had nothing to do with you, sorry for wasting your time, I apologize to BP 🙄 Fvck you too my friend.
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But.. they didn't?

They may have had something to do with the overall spill, but the inhibited alarms has nothing to do with BP... 🙄
 
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