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BOYCOTT OUTSOURCING!!

Brazen

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Here is a good article.

Company outsources IT overseas.
Company loses money due to poor quality of IT.
Company loses money due to outsourcing being more expensive in the long run.
Company either insources before it is too late or dies.

Overseas outsourcing is a plague.



note: I have a very fine job in no danger of being outsourced, so I am not bitter. I am just looking out for the future of the American people. Other countries should be outsourcing to US for crying out loud!

::edited for minor spelling mistake
 

Maleficus

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My experience with outsourced support centers has been good. I call they help me fix my problem, hate to say it but most of the time I call and its not outsourced I get either an idiot or a kid and neither can help me.
 

Jzero

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Outsourcing = :thumbsdown:
Offshoring = :thumbsup:

Why would other countries outsource to the US, anyway? Labor is more expensive in the US!
 

isasir

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Every time I've called an outsourced tech center, it seems that the rep always has to get a supervisor because I'm apparently asking some complex question... I feel sorry for the supervisors at these places.
 

Brazen

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Originally posted by: Jzero
Outsourcing = :thumbsdown:
Offshoring = :thumbsup:

Why would other countries outsource to the US, anyway? Labor is more expensive in the US!

Because the US has more technological know-how than any other country... not a fact, but highly arguable.
 

mugs

Lifer
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How'd you get such a fine job with those spelling skills? Anyway, nobody complained about outsourcing when it was just manufacturing jobs going overseas, now that it's white collar jobs, nobody likes it. I can't blame companies, once one starts doing it, the others have to do it to stay competitive.
 

Brazen

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Originally posted by: Maleficus
My experience with outsourced support centers has been good. I call they help me fix my problem, hate to say it but most of the time I call and its not outsourced I get either an idiot or a kid and neither can help me.

Here is my experience with outsourced tech support:

Either I call someone who can't understand either my words or the concepts and I can barely understand their words anyway, or emailing them and waiting two or three days for a response that is either jibberish or not applicable to the problem. I've gotten much better responses from the forums from people who know nothing about the specific vendors equipment, because these [forum members] are the people who really understand how IT works and yet are losing their jobs to outsourcing.
 

Squisher

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I wonder how many people on these forums turned a blind eye to outsourcing when it was us lazy, good-for-nothing auto workers saying this, but somehow feel a real need to voice their concerns now that it's IT that is affected?

Personally, I welcome competition. As an auto worker I say, bring it on.


However, speaking about the topic at hand, if I need support and can't understand what the guy is saying or he's so far removed from the company he works for that he feels no need to be as supportive as possible, well then, I'm voting with my dollars.
 

zephyrprime

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Because the US has more technological know-how than any other country... not a fact, but highly arguable.
I think the primary reason that other nations offshore to the US is to access US markets, not to access out talent. There may be some accessing of our talent, but not a whole lot.
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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I didn't read that but my problem is when people aren't working as hard as others are willing to and then complain when their job gets taken away
 

Brazen

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Originally posted by: Squisher
I wonder how many people on these forums turned a blind eye to outsourcing when it was us lazy good for nothing auto workers saying this, but somehow fell a real need to voice their concerns now that it's IT that is affected?

Personally, I welcome competition. As an auto worker I say, bring it on.


However, speaking about the topic at hand, if I need support and can't understand what the guy is saying or he's so far removed from the company he works for that he feels no need to be as supportive as possible, well then, I'm voting with my dollars.

You wanna know my favorite thing about the new 2005 Ford Mustang? It is manufactured right in the heart of America: Kansas City.

I'm voting with my dollars, too, but I want to make a difference, so I say BOYCOTT OUTSOURCING! ...overseas anyway.

How'd you get such a fine job with those spelling skills?

I typed my resume in Word, and spell-checked it.
 

vshah

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i'm all for protecting american jobs, but consumers find themselves in a sticky situation nowadays. if they heed your call to boycott outsourcing, then they're left with....no tech support whatsoever from a large number of companies.

-Vivan
 

Brazen

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Originally posted by: vshah
i'm all for protecting american jobs, but consumers find themselves in a sticky situation nowadays. if they heed your call to boycott outsourcing, then they're left with....no tech support whatsoever from a large number of companies.

-Vivan


Very true, but maybe if people had stickers and logos and junk like that everywhere, it could sway corporate decision makers if they think they can have an edge by insourcing, and consumers can help by doing what they can to show favor to companies who insource.
 

Brazen

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Originally posted by: sygyzy
Other countries should be outsourcing to the US? HAHAHAHAHAH.

So either you are not in the US, or you consider yourself to have fewer skills than anyone else in the world?
 

Kyteland

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You spelled Boy Scout wrong in you title, and why are you outsourcing them?

:confused:
 

MaxDepth

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"Tech Politics," Information Week. July 19, 2004.
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"Both parties are solidly pro-H-1B and pro-offshoring. The only difference... is that the Democrats are pretending to be pro-labor on those issues, while the Republicans are quite openly pro-industry," says Norman Matloff, a University of California-Davis computer science professor.
 

CanOWorms

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I don't mind the outsourcing of IT jobs - most of it is help desk call center type jobs. They aren't that important. Americans should do better than IT jobs with all that's available to us.
 

FoBoT

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fobot.com
protect buggy whip makers jobs!

save your neighbors horse shoeing business!!!

think of the poor starving children of the blacksmiths!
:roll:

business and people have to keep up with changes, who really wants to do things the same way as the 19th century?
 

Freejack2

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Nevermind, all I will get from posting what I posted is the reply posts of ignorant morons.