Boy Scouts' anti-gay policy bad for business?

[zsdersw]

According to two anonymous (and gay) full-time employees of the BSA:

http://www.advocate.com/youth/2013/...s-employee-says-antigay-policy-hurts-business

I can't say I'm surprised. This isn't the 1950s anymore; the business/corporate world is practically falling over itself catering to a public that supports the GLBT community and their inclusiveness agenda.

It also echoes a thread I started a while back about the choice between being popular yet ideologically impure or ideologically pure and isolated. Looks like the BSA may have to either alter their policies or live with significant reductions in corporate sponsorship and membership.

 

[zsdersw]

Looks like they took a step in the right direction: http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/23/us/boy-scouts-sexual-orientation/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

 

[PokerGuy]

They were in a sort of no-win situation. Regardless of their decision, they're going to lose support/donations. 70% of troops are supported by religious organizations, many of which are going to stop their support. If they had gone the other way the PC zealots would have gone ballistic and they would have been vilified and lose support as well.

The troop my nephews belong to got the email this morning that they will be disbanding at the end of this year because their sole sponsor (a church) has decided to cease support. Now they're considering simply setting up a new troop (not BSA) maintaining the old rules to regain the support.

 

[TheVrolok]

They were in a sort of no-win situation. Regardless of their decision, they're going to lose support/donations. 70% of troops are supported by religious organizations, many of which are going to stop their support. If they had gone the other way the PC zealots would have gone ballistic and they would have been vilified and lose support as well.

The troop my nephews belong to got the email this morning that they will be disbanding at the end of this year because their sole sponsor (a church) has decided to cease support. Now they're considering simply setting up a new troop (not BSA) maintaining the old rules to regain the support.

While there may be some set backs (with the loss of some religious backers) I think this is still a major step forward for the BSA.

 

[DukeN]

Eagerly awaiting your nostalgia post post: "Back in the day, those BSA douchebags adopted minorities' agenda of being included, instead of pursuing their pure philosophy".

According to two anonymous (and gay) full-time employees of the BSA:

http://www.advocate.com/youth/2013/...s-employee-says-antigay-policy-hurts-business

I can't say I'm surprised. This isn't the 1950s anymore; the business/corporate world is practically falling over itself catering to a public that supports the GLBT community and their inclusiveness agenda.

It also echoes a thread I started a while back about the choice between being popular yet ideologically impure or ideologically pure and isolated. Looks like the BSA may have to either alter their policies or live with significant reductions in corporate sponsorship and membership.

 

[zsdersw]

Eagerly awaiting your nostalgia post post: "Back in the day, those BSA douchebags adopted minorities' agenda of being included, instead of pursuing their pure philosophy".

What?

 

[bshole]

While there may be some set backs (with the loss of some religious backers) I think this is still a major step forward for the BSA.

Not really, the BSA is becoming more irrelevant as each year passes. Fewer and fewer kids are interested in it. Their membership has been in constant and steady decline since 1972. This was done in desperation on their part to get their numbers back up. It will not work.

 

[LightPattern]

They were in a sort of no-win situation. Regardless of their decision, they're going to lose support/donations. 70% of troops are supported by religious organizations, many of which are going to stop their support. If they had gone the other way the PC zealots would have gone ballistic and they would have been vilified and lose support as well.

The troop my nephews belong to got the email this morning that they will be disbanding at the end of this year because their sole sponsor (a church) has decided to cease support. Now they're considering simply setting up a new troop (not BSA) maintaining the old rules to regain the support.

One option:
Faith Based Boys
http://www.faithbasedboys.org/

The one mentioned in OP's CNN link.

 

[PokerGuy]

Their membership has been in constant and steady decline since 1972. This was done in desperation on their part to get their numbers back up. It will not work.

I wasn't aware that there's been a steady decline in membership, but I guess that's not surprising. Americans continue to become more sedentary and less fit each day, preferring to sit in front of the TV or waste time on facebook instead of doing something outdoors.

 

[SheHateMe]

When everyone stops running around with their heads cut off telling lies about Gays abusing children if they are included, everything will be fine.

In the meantime, nobody is excluding heterosexuals who seem to abuse children much more than homosexuals. :whiste:

 

[Sonikku]

I have nothing against gays. I just don't want my kid to be sodomized when he's in boy scouts.

 

[BlueWolf47]

I'm sure he will be fine. You might have to look out for his father though.

 

[xBiffx]

In the meantime, nobody is excluding heterosexuals who seem to abuse children much more than homosexuals. :whiste:

Fairly certain the BSA excludes pedophiles and molesters even heterosexual ones.

 

[finglobes]

"Many organizations" have refused to partner with the Scouts over the policy, the writer says."

That's because the media and homosexual groups bullied them relentlessly. It shows how wicked America has become that the Boy Scouts get bullied (wonder how DoJ and IRS been treating them?) and can't protect itself from the same kind of abusers that were in the church, Penn St and schools. It was homosexuals who formed the Brownhsirts in Nazi Germany. Hitler thought they made the best bullies.


"The Long Hike: Media’s 13 Years of Bullying Boy Scouts Over Gays"

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthe...s-bullying-boy-scouts-over-gays#ixzz2UEXnB1sS

 

[piasabird]

The Boy Scouts will find that being pro gay will be bad for business. A lot of the boy scout troops are sponsored by Churches. So what happens if all the Churches withdraw their support?

As an example the president of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day saints (Mormons) is a highly decorated Scout Leader. I think about every Mormon ward has a boy scout and cub scout troop. I kind of wonder what they will think of this.

Do we stay or do we go now?

 

[KK]

The Boy Scouts will find that being pro gay will be bad for business. A lot of the boy scout troops are sponsored by Churches. So what happens if all the Churches withdraw their support?

As an example the president of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day saints (Mormons) is a highly decorated Scout Leader. I think about every Mormon ward has a boy scout and cub scout troop. I kind of wonder what they will think of this.

Do we stay or do we go now?

The Mormons were for it. So they had alot of pull to get this changed as they have the most sponsorships of any one group.

 

[kami333]

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints threw its support behind the new policy voted on Thursday by the Boy Scouts of America that opens the door for gay youth to join the ranks, while continuing to ban gay adult Scout leaders. With more Scouting troops than any other religious denomination in the country, the backing of the Salt Lake City-based church was significant for the Scouts.

Following church leadership, Utah's two main Boy Scout councils — made up nearly entirely by Mormon-sponsored troops and among the largest in the country— also backed the rule change.

link

 

[Paladin3]

Why wouldn't churches who fund boy scouts welcome gay "sinners" into their youth organizations? They still ban gays from any kind of leadership position. The ban on atheist and agnostic scouts continues as well. So you have to be a Christian gay to get in. I don't foresee a huge rush of new scouts.

Just look at the wording of the resolution too: "No youth may be denied membership in the Boy Scouts of America on the basis of sexual orientation or preference alone," says the resolution. So, if you act on your sinful and ungodly gay impulses then you get kicked out?

There is nothing new here. Churches and associated organizations have been welcoming in sinful gay youth for a long time so they can be molded into upstanding, heterosexual, Christian adults. It's kinda their mission.

The scouts are a private organization, so they can do whatever they want, but this resolution doesn't change anything, IMHO. They still hate gays. Or they "hate the sin and love the sinner" as they would say.

 

[Fern]

The Boy Scouts will find that being pro gay will be bad for business. A lot of the boy scout troops are sponsored by Churches. So what happens if all the Churches withdraw their support?
-snip-

I suspect it will too.

No matter where you stand on an issue, someone is on the other side opposing you. I suppose from just the financial aspect the question would be you will you take in more money with the policy or more without it. In this regard claims that some don't sponsor because of the policy are not determinative. Now they'll see how many drop support because of the switch.

Fern

 

[nehalem256]

"Many organizations" have refused to partner with the Scouts over the policy, the writer says."

That's because the media and homosexual groups bullied them relentlessly. It shows how wicked America has become that the Boy Scouts get bullied (wonder how DoJ and IRS been treating them?) and can't protect itself from the same kind of abusers that were in the church, Penn St and schools. It was homosexuals who formed the Brownhsirts in Nazi Germany. Hitler thought they made the best bullies.


"The Long Hike: Media’s 13 Years of Bullying Boy Scouts Over Gays"

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthe...s-bullying-boy-scouts-over-gays#ixzz2UEXnB1sS

Well we at least know how California is treating them:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2313048

And people are surprised by how the IRS acted...