Boy, 8, Charged in Death of Infant Sister

[BOLt]

Originally posted by: Toasthead

Originally posted by: Triumph
these days? atrocities have been happening since the dawn of time. i don't believe stories like these are necessarily an indication of our times. "the good ol' days" never were.

yeah, but back in the 'good 'ole days' we DID something about it. Nowadays its all about making sure the criminal is treated as nicely as possible...we dont want to upset them or make their life any harder than it should be.


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So you are suggesting a "firing squad, stat" as expressed so eloquently by Nitemare?

He needs a shrink and corrective counseling. You can't hold him for 13 years and then try him for aggravated manslaughter -- especially if it is during childhood, when 13 years is an incredible amount of psychological, mental, and developmental growth.

Someone at 8 years old is hardly ever like the adult they will grow up to be.

Don't ask me to say exactly what needs to be done, though... as the article said, it's a very awkward and different situation that warrants much discretion for all parties involved.

 

[crystal]

English common law dating back centuries says children under 8 can't be held accountable for their actions, and children are presumed to be unable to form criminal intent before about age 15.

I disagreed with the bolded section. You should know what is right or wrong much earlier than that.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: Toasthead

Originally posted by: Triumph
these days? atrocities have been happening since the dawn of time. i don't believe stories like these are necessarily an indication of our times. "the good ol' days" never were.

yeah, but back in the 'good 'ole days' we DID something about it. Nowadays its all about making sure the criminal is treated as nicely as possible...we dont want to upset them or make their life any harder than it should be.


:|

Well, actually, according to the article, we DIDN'T do much about it:

English common law dating back centuries says children under 8 can't be held accountable for their actions, and children are presumed to be unable to form criminal intent before about age 15.

Note the "dating back centuries" part.

Before the US was actually created, and it was just the colonies, we were pretty damn harsh with children. Kids as young as 3 or 4 were put in jail. Things sure have changed.

yes we now have a better grasp of pyschology and understand that jailing children causes irreversible pyschological trauma which can create greater societal problems down the road.

Look, I hope you know I don't think it was right..I was just pointing it out. K?

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: BOLt

Originally posted by: Toasthead

Originally posted by: Triumph
these days? atrocities have been happening since the dawn of time. i don't believe stories like these are necessarily an indication of our times. "the good ol' days" never were.

yeah, but back in the 'good 'ole days' we DID something about it. Nowadays its all about making sure the criminal is treated as nicely as possible...we dont want to upset them or make their life any harder than it should be.


:|

So you are suggesting a "firing squad, stat" as expressed so eloquently by Nitemare?

He needs a shrink and corrective counseling. You can't hold him for 13 years and then try him for aggravated manslaughter -- especially if it is during childhood, when 13 years is an incredible amount of psychological, mental, and developmental growth.

Someone at 8 years old is hardly ever like the adult they will grow up to be.

Don't ask me to say exactly what needs to be done, though... as the article said, it's a very awkward and different situation that warrants much discretion for all parties involved.

When you were 8 y/o did you have the ability to think that braining your sister to death with a 2x4 was probably not a good idea?

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Nitemare
That's not funny...


Firing squad, stat ?

For an 8 year old?

God, that's tragic...Can't imagine what that family is going through right now...

 

[KarenMarie]

Originally posted by: gigapet
yes we now have a better grasp of pyschology and understand that jailing children causes irreversible pyschological trauma which can create greater societal problems down the road.

As opposed to how normal and well adjusted he is now?

I am not a huge fan of locking ppl away forever for non violent crimes... but I do think that violent crimes need to be dealt with swiftly an harshly This boy needs to not see the light of day until he is at least 21yrs old. Mental farm, juvie hall... whatever... he needs to not be coddled and treated with cotton.

 

[czech09]

Wow in Tampa too I'm from Tampa mmm...

 

[HBalzer]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie

Originally posted by: gigapet
yes we now have a better grasp of pyschology and understand that jailing children causes irreversible pyschological trauma which can create greater societal problems down the road.

As opposed to how normal and well adjusted he is now?

I am not a huge fan of locking ppl away forever for non violent crimes... but I do think that violent crimes need to be dealt with swiftly an harshly This boy needs to not see the light of day until he is at least 21yrs old. Mental farm, juvie hall... whatever... he needs to not be coddled and treated with cotton.

Because when he gets out at 21 after a life in prison he will be normal and ready for society.

 

[TheShiz]

"WTF is WRONG with kids these days!!?!?"

i'm so sick of people complaining how things are so horrible "these days"

please go learn some world history over the past 2 thousand years, then report back.