A gun versus a broom stick from a 14 year old kid? Don't police still carry batons/ or billy sticks or whatever they are called?
So what would you have done if you were the police officer? He broke a broom on your head with enough force to cause a concussion, macing him does nothing, he is now attacking you with a potentially deadly weapon. Would you have just fled and left the kid to go hurt someone else? Or would you have taken the beating like man?
Running wasn't even an option for him.. at that point, he already got a concussion from being hit in the head.
I agree this was last resort. The police put their lives on the line every day and our legal system takes it for granted. Most of the time the cops just sit there and take abuse from lowlifes all day long. I know I could never put up with the sh*t they do.
Cops in a lot of areas do not carry batons/night sticks.
The cop would've also been at a disadvantage, since the kid was pretty much carrying a spear and was already dazed (concussion) from getting cracked in the skull a few times.
On top of that, I don't know if you've ever swung a 24" police baton, but you don't fvck around with them. A crack to the skull is a potentially lethal strike, or anywhere else on the body is enough to break bones pretty easily. That still doesn't change the fact that the kid didn't respond to other less lethal forms of defense, and attacking him with a baton might not've stopped him either.
I do agree with other posters that a taser would have been a better option. Perhaps the second cop shouldn't have left? Hindsight is 20/20. It was a bad situation.
He did what he had to do, but tazer's would of definitely been a great option if it were available at the time.
Keep in mind the boy was maced a few times and that didn't stop him, so it's pretty evident what happened, was going to happen.
Keep in mind the boy was maced a few times and that didn't stop him, so it's pretty evident what happened, was going to happen.
Just curious what if the situation ended differently like the cop got stabbed to death with the broken broom stick? Would it be news then?
Why did the OP post this thread then? Should authority ever be questioned? Or should we just rely on the authority of those in power and never question anything?
Inspector Jihad and the other retards would have proclaimed what a brave and awesome kid he is to take down police brutality and to show the "system" whos boss.
Kid gets stick
Kid causes concussion with stick thereby turning stick into a pointy lethal stake
kid keeps fighting through mace making the kid very dangerous and shows intent to kill cop
cop fires a disarming round into shoulder which should ot be near lethal, in fact should be easily recoverable assuming you are not hopped up on drugs.
Kid dies
+1 for the gene pool. good riddance. ntural selectino at work. If you are going to be stupid and dangerous, you probably wont live too long.
If I acted the way above, I wouldnt harbor any ill feelings about being shot by a cop. Something has to be done if you are malicious and lethally dangerous to those around you. Actions have consequences.
I consider myself a democrat but when did america become so g*dd*mned pvssified?
I can't really say I feel bad for the kid at all. He got what he deserved. You attack a police officer with a weapon that if used properly could kill someone, you should only expect to get shot back at.
I am not debating whether the authority should be questioned or not. I am just questioning the media that reports the story. Seems like everytime there are controversies, we never get the full story.
mwmorph: I can only speak for myself, but I would not hold that view. Violence is wrong. Wheither it comes from authority or from somewhere else. If you want to paint with a broad brush perhaps you would say that life is abundant and that one less person has very little significance to anyone. Perhaps others though may think that life is precious and when someone gets killed it should be questioned.
Perry
Perry
Violence is wrong in most situations but is necessary in others, nothing in the world is ever black and white, never fully right or wrong. To counter violence, espically the deadly use of violence from a crazed person, what would you do, try to talk him down while the guy sticks the stakes between your ribs? He shot to disable not to even kill and a shoulder wound is a very slight wound. minimal of anything vital in the shoulders. Given the situation, what would you have done?
He had 4 choices
1 Die
2 Keep spraying mace uselessly and then run off to leave a criminally violent and deranged suspect loose
3. Shoot to disable
4. Shoot to kill.
I agree that life is precious to those who value it. But do you think this kid really value his life when he stupidly attack a cop armed with a lethal weapon? Now if this kid put so little value in his own life, do you think he would value somebody else's life?
The first thing I would do is not become a cop to be put in those situations. Perhaps what they need to do is make it policy that more than one police officer should be at the scene until they both leave. Another could be to use tasers or billy sticks.
If you read the article that was linked. The mothers story was different than the police story. If there were 2 police officers at the scene there would have been more witnesses.
And violence is very rarely justified.
If you read the article that was linked. The mothers story was different than the police story. If there were 2 police officers at the scene there would have been more witnesses.
And violence is very rarely justified.
I'm sure in this day and age any and all shooting are thoroughly reviewed. Or do you beleive that that process is corrupt, maybe 30 years ago they might have gotten away with ****** but today the police are under such scrutiny that they are guilty until proven otherwise. Any and everyone is just waiting to sue the authorities for wrongfull harm such that each department is scared not to make these things thorough and transparent.
TallBill
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Well, someone has to be police officers. And it is impossible in most situations to mandate a 2 officer minimum at every scene. It would be great, but taxpayers wouldn't have it. Its hard enough to staff most areas as it is. And using a asp or police baton was the wrong answer for this situation. As an officer, it is very dangerous to only respond with the amount of force that is coming at you. It is your responsibility to return a level of force one step higher. Because if you are fighting with equal weapons, your life is in much greater danger.
thescreensavers
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Indeed, but I hope you hold this same high standard for the life of the policeman should he had been killed by this. Violence is wrong, hence why the boy should have not resorted to it in the first place.
Bwahahahaha. I love comments like these.
How bout this. We take you, we crack a broomstick over your head and hit you several more times with it. Then we have someone start using it as a spear to impale you. Let's see if you can even get a shot off, let alone hit center mass, let alone target and hit an extremity.
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