Just (finally) watched Bowling for Columbine last night, and I think I totally missed something. A big part of the middle of it had to do with Moore and two Columbine students who had survived the shooting, going to K-Mart headquarters to get K-Mart to stop selling bullets. Apparently, the guys who did the shooting bought their bullets from K-Mart. I think I missed the point of this whole segment, was Moore blaming K-Mart somehow for the shooting? If K-Mart didn't sell bullets, wouldn't the shooters just have gone somewhere else to buy them? I mean, they seemed to be pretty determined to do what they did, I'm thinking that if they needed bullets and couldn't get them at K-Mart, they would have found a way to get them somewhere else. Or, did I miss the point, and if so, could someone enlighten me?
Bowling for Columbine - K-Mart question
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You sound entirely too intelligent to be watching that piece of sh!t, please stay where you are we'll have help there shortly.
Close your eyes, it helps.
Viper GTS
Close your eyes, it helps.
Viper GTS
Viper is right dude, I don't know where that site is but it debunks that whole movie. Michael Moore is a LIAR and he will always be.
LOL, not saying if I agreed or disagreed with any of the "documentary", I was just totally lost when it came to K-Mart, I didn't get the point.
I was also wondering about the whole Dick Clark thing, was he blaming Dick Clark for the 6 year old shooting the other 6 year old? That was pretty bizarre.
Edit: Was there anyone that liked "Bowling for Columbine" that can explain this stuff? I'm not out to make fun of anyone, I am just trying to understand.
BeauJangles
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I think Moore was simply trying to show how easy it was for those kids to procure the bullets. I don't think he only meant at Kmart, but probably everywhere bullets are sold.
Please don't flame me, I hate the movie like many people here, but I'm also not a die-hard fan.
Please don't flame me, I hate the movie like many people here, but I'm also not a die-hard fan.
I thought it was a decent movie though it was a bit deceptive.
On his site....Moore debunked the debunkers.
Anyways it's like listening to conservative talk radio....you have to watch/listen to it carefully and understand the person's agenda in order to get the most out of it.
On his site....Moore debunked the debunkers.
Anyways it's like listening to conservative talk radio....you have to watch/listen to it carefully and understand the person's agenda in order to get the most out of it.
speg
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Want more details about Moore's bullsh!t, and his supposed debunking of the debunkers? Check out THIS THREAD.
speg
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Informative, of course not. But I thought it was entertaining, which is, what in the end a movie is supposed to be. ( but I guess not a documentary, but that's a whole other story... )
yes the point was how easy and cheap some young kids can get 9mm bullets
you have to be 21 to buy a pistol but if your not you can still walk into many places and get pistol rounds for pretty cheap
The uneducated think that BFC is a lie
The partially educated think it's gospel
The educated recognize it for what it is, a darkly ironic satire.
Moore (intentionally I believe) demonstrates how looking too long into the abyss causes one to become a monster.
He does what he accuses the media of doing.
I'm surprised that more staunchly conservatives aren't more happy with this than they are. It's people from my generation who think Moore is the second coming who will vote for Dean and win Bush the election.
Crap this is a politics related post, I'm sincerely sorry for that.
The partially educated think it's gospel
The educated recognize it for what it is, a darkly ironic satire.
Moore (intentionally I believe) demonstrates how looking too long into the abyss causes one to become a monster.
He does what he accuses the media of doing.
I'm surprised that more staunchly conservatives aren't more happy with this than they are. It's people from my generation who think Moore is the second coming who will vote for Dean and win Bush the election.
Crap this is a politics related post, I'm sincerely sorry for that.
I have yet to find a store that would sell handgun ammunition to someone that was not old enough to buy a handgun.
Yup, for handgun ammo you have to be 21. 18 for rifle/shotgun ammo.
I buy bullets for my brother all the time.
Viper GTS
There was no 'point', really. To the extent there was a point, it was Moore exploiting a tragedy to make himself feel important by bullying and humiliating others, using victims of a shooting, with whom any breathing person would sympathize, as a wedge to make Kmart choose between playing the horrid monster who cares more about sales than shot-up kids or a responsible company who cares more about shot-up kids than sales.
It would be like Moore waiting for you to get into your SUV, then ambush you using a sickly, pale, 10 year-old girl with severe asthma dragging IV poles behind her. Moore demands that you explain to this girl why your right to pollute the air is more important than her right to breathe and be healthy, all the while cameras are rolling.
While you're scratching your head, befuddled and confused, Moore has carefully crafted an 'easy' out for you. All you have to do is give Moore your 'killer' SUV and promise to replace it with a bicycle, and the little girl will smile, give you a big hug, then say "Thanks for not killing me, Mister". You look like a hero while Moore and the little girl drive-off in your SUV, vowing to have it crushed and recycled into some electric-powered Yugo.
If you don't choose this 'out' and refuse to surrender your SUV to Moore, the little girl will start crying, the stress of which will cause her to start wheezing and gasping, then she'll have to be whisked-off to the Emergency Room by ambulance.
If you understand the point in that, you understand what the Kmart scene in Bowling was about.
Of course, if you have nothing to lose, you might just say 'Get the hell off my property you idiot'. But Kmart can't afford that kind of public relations disaster, it has enough problems without being made to look like the Anti-Christ.
It would be like Moore waiting for you to get into your SUV, then ambush you using a sickly, pale, 10 year-old girl with severe asthma dragging IV poles behind her. Moore demands that you explain to this girl why your right to pollute the air is more important than her right to breathe and be healthy, all the while cameras are rolling.
While you're scratching your head, befuddled and confused, Moore has carefully crafted an 'easy' out for you. All you have to do is give Moore your 'killer' SUV and promise to replace it with a bicycle, and the little girl will smile, give you a big hug, then say "Thanks for not killing me, Mister". You look like a hero while Moore and the little girl drive-off in your SUV, vowing to have it crushed and recycled into some electric-powered Yugo.
If you don't choose this 'out' and refuse to surrender your SUV to Moore, the little girl will start crying, the stress of which will cause her to start wheezing and gasping, then she'll have to be whisked-off to the Emergency Room by ambulance.
If you understand the point in that, you understand what the Kmart scene in Bowling was about.
Of course, if you have nothing to lose, you might just say 'Get the hell off my property you idiot'. But Kmart can't afford that kind of public relations disaster, it has enough problems without being made to look like the Anti-Christ.
DrPizza
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hen I purchase ammo here (specifically 22 shells), they ask if they're for a handgun or for a rifle... if they were for a handgun, then I believe I have to sign for them as well (additional paperwork). I'm not positive, since I don't own a handgun though. However, an 18 year old could get some sizes of ammo that work for both handguns as well as rifles. It's correct though that they are extremely cheap. Last I bought 22 shells, they worked out to about 1 cent each.
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